adolf_frogler Cheater! [cleared]

[2dank]

adolf_frogler is intentional giving away game # 4605757.

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=4605757

I don't know why he's throwing the game.


Could be a Multi or Secret Alliance or he's just plain retarded and has no clue that he's letting blue grow too strong and that we are all about to die.


But something does not SMELL RIGHT here. Phishie to say the least.

[ManBungalow]

2009-04-17 19:43:57 - adolf_frogler: im not allied to anybody...but teal did attack me
2009-04-17 19:44:38 - adolf_frogler: naughty naughty
2009-04-17 19:46:37 - adolf_frogler: there...revenge satisfied

I think he just got wound up with the game

[JCKing]

Yes looks to me from the game log that, like bungalow pointed out, was just caught up in the game. You attack him he retaliates big deal happens all the time in risk.

[2dank]

You guys have to read the WHOLE game LOG!

Not just his last comment why he attacked me.


Great stuff in there today! He throw a fit. And admits to not attacking blue at all!


He's a CHEATER!

[king sam]

Conquer Stats show that he has attacked Blue in the game. Just as much as he has attacked anyone else in the game, except you.

You probably got the attention of his attacks cause of chat. You used chat to put a target on your back, and quite honestly I'm willing to bet he had an unsaid alliance with blue that didn't need to be proclaimed cause you ponied up for non aggressions with yellow.

Honestly you've been around for a bit, you know better and have to know when you act like an ass in chat it will get you unwanted attention.

This isn't a case of anyone giving the game away to anyone. This is a case of your going to lose and decided to Flame another member in game chat to try to change that and it didn't work.

Regards,
King Sam

[2dank]

Well your entitled to your small viewed opinion.


But when a player lets the player right next to him get 15 guys a turn on 2 different turns. And both times attacks players not threatening or attacking him it's a little ODD. Don't you think?


So conquer stats shows he attack blue as many times. But opening turns have far less impact. So those stats do not apply. Show me attack turns when he ONCE BROKE BLUES BONUS! He NEVER DID!

I find it crazy that a player of your rank Sam would write this.

"I'm willing to bet he had an unsaid alliance with blue that didn't need to be proclaimed cause you ponied up for non aggressions with yellow."

ANY AND ALL ALLIANCES MUST BE DISCLOSED IN GAME CHAT! CC rules state "Rule #2: No secret diplomacy

Any form of diplomatic discussion between opponents must be posted in the game chat in English or in a language that all opponents understand. Diplomacy includes, but is not limited to: proposing truces, negotiating alliances, and coordinating assaults. Secret diplomacy can be hard to prove, but if you suspect it you should leave the players in question appropriate ratings. If you feel certain about players engaging in secret diplomacy consider reporting them in the Cheating & Abuse Reports forum by posting a new topic."

Though this is one reason I will not RENEW my Premium account. NO ONE ENFORCES ANY OF CC's RULES except here in the forums and in chat. (Which are all 3rd grade behavior rules.)

So your comment of "unsaid alliance with blue that didn't need to be proclaimed cause you ponied up for non aggressions with yellow." Is absurd!!!!

He still by CC Rules has to disclose any truce, alliance they had!

As for your comment here "you know better and have to know when you act like an ass in chat it will get you unwanted attention. "

How did I act like an ASS? Was it when apologized for going through him the first time to brake Blue? Because he had just not broken blue when he had an easy 2 he could kill to brake one of blues 2 bonuses?

Or are you referring to my warning? To him about if he continues to not attack blue and let him get 15 guys each turn that I would then wipe him out?

So the chat goes like this.

2009-04-15 14:28:40 - 2dank: Sorry Green But someone had to break blues 2 bonuses!
2009-04-16 04:31:28 - adolf_frogler: just showing yellow his weakest link...

He attacked yellow for no reason. (This is where this started smelling phishie in this game)


2009-04-16 13:39:02 - tadowdaddy: you're a douche
2009-04-16 13:39:07 - tadowdaddy: way to concentrate on blue

(Green was letting Blue get 15 guys and grow too strong)

Yellows not happy can you blame him. Blue's beating on him and now Green is too. While letting Blue get a HUGE! 15 guys!

2009-04-16 14:16:00 - 2dank: That was stupid Green! Just let Blue have 15 guys when all you had to do was kill a 2 at Egypt!
2009-04-16 14:16:42 - 2dank: What on Earth where you thinking?
2009-04-16 22:34:30 - 2dank: Yellow border truce I will not attack your bonus & you will not attack mine agreed?


Me asking the Irish dipshit what he was thinking? ( There where cheating together IE: SECRET ALLIANCE!)

At this point I offered yellow a border truce since it seems that Blue & Green are in league with each other but have not posted an alliance in the game chat.

I was just trying to get the game in check. Hoping we could all even out a little bit and not have BLUE Getting 15+ guys every turn and running away with the game.


King if you still hold to your above post please reply. Letting me know so.

So I know if I should add you to Ignore now or not.

[king sam]

1st point
You totally left out a lot of context to that game chat to benefit your cause there 2dank.

Let me clear it up for all the readers that didnt bother to check the game

Round 14 Blue (trymebyfire) had a 4 troop territory bonus for owning 13 territories and in that round on his go he annihilated 5 of your (2dank's) territories in Western Africa.

In the same round Green (adolf_frogler) had a 3 troop territory bonus for owning 7 territories, cashed for 6 were he deployed all in the Congo over several territories and attacked a weakly guarded territory to get a card.

Next round Blue (trymebyfire) had the Maghreb bonus along with the Western Coast bonus that he just took over you to get.He deployed to protect his newly claimed Bonuses and attacked a weakly guarded territory of Green's (adolf_frogler) to get a card. Green is still the weakest in the game as far as territories at this point with 7 while everyone else has double digits. Now I cant tell how many troops Blue (trymebyfire) had defending his bonus at this time except the 10 he just deployed to protect from the Egypt side. But its obvious he doesnt see Green (adolf_frogler) as a threat due to his troop/territory count and probably figures that Green (adolf_frogler) wont risk all his troops trying to break into him and ending the game for himself.

You complain about Green (adolf_frogler) not taking over Egypt from Blue (trymebyfire) and allowing him to get those 2 bonuses in chat. Maybe he had bad dice and couldnt break those 2 he had on Egypt, maybe he was the weakest and expected you or yellow (tadowdaddy) who both had a bonus for +5 rounds before this to pick up the weight.

Either way Fact of the matter is Blue (trymebyfire) held the bonus for 2 rounds, and you and the other player both being greatly superior to Green (adolf_frogler) did nothing about it, but expected him to and when he didnt you post this in chat:

2009-04-17 01:34:30 - 2dank: Yellow border truce I will not attack your bonus & you will not attack mine agreed?

Green (adolf_frogler) had 7 and 6 regions respectively on both turns that Blue (trymebyfire) owned those 2 bonuses. Dont think he thought he could break the bonus(es) and still be strong enough to survive.

2nd point

I find it crazy that a player of your rank Sam would write this.
"I'm willing to bet he had an unsaid alliance with blue that didn't need to be proclaimed cause you ponied up for non aggressions with yellow."
ANY AND ALL ALLIANCES MUST BE DISCLOSED IN GAME CHAT! CC rules state "Rule #2: No secret diplomacy
yada, yada, yada
So your comment of [b]"unsaid alliance with blue that didn't need to be proclaimed cause you ponied up for non aggressions with yellow." Is absurd!!!!
He still by CC Rules has to disclose any truce, alliance they had!

You ponied up for an alliance with the other player in a now 4 player game. Yeah when the tables are seriously sliding to one side, or their is an alliance in place like you two had the other parties in the game tend to focus their attentions off of each other and on to the other ones to help even the game or to survive longer. This is common sense, and quite frankly with your experience you should know this.

Their is no rule violation by them to essentially have non aggressions towards each other and focus them on you two, even without saying anything in chat about it. Their playing the game to survive and win.

As for your comment here "you know better and have to know when you act like an ass in chat it will get you unwanted attention. "

How did I act like an ASS? Was it when apologized for going through him the first time to brake Blue? Because he had just not broken blue when he had an easy 2 he could kill to brake one of blues 2 bonuses?

None of those things you pulled out of game chat is what I'm referring to. This was the part I mentioned above where you absolutely quoted yourself way out of context to benefit you. Here is what I'm talking about:

2009-04-17 17:45:50 - 2dank: lol Green welcome to Ignore. Your level of game play is moronic
2009-04-17 17:46:19 - 2dank: Just give the game away! How the hell did you ever get to that rank?
2009-04-17 17:46:35 - 2dank: Way your playing is ? at highest!
2009-04-17 17:47:19 - 2dank: GG Blue make sure to leave Green Nice FEED BACK for giving the GAME AWAY!
2009-04-17 17:47:33 - 2dank: I'm going to level him cheater Feedback!
2009-04-17 18:25:44 - 2dank: posting.php?mode=post&f=5
2009-04-18 13:45:41 - 2dank: lol CRYBABY! You didn't fight Blue so he KILL YOU! You game play is on the 3 grade level child!
2009-04-18 14:13:53 - 2dank: Blue how's it feel to win? When you are given the game? Doesn't it take something out of the Victory?
2009-04-18 14:53:39 - 2dank: You didn't answer any of the Quetions Blue! Does it take away from the feeling of really Winning? Do you enjoy douchebags giving you games?
2009-04-18 14:54:32 - 2dank: Blue id Green you gay lover? I think he is! Welcome to ignore too dipshit!
2009-04-18 14:57:04 - 2dank: * is

This all came after a few rounds of your alliance with yellow (tadowdaddy) not going your way.


3rd point

King if you still hold to your above post please reply. Letting me know so.
So I know if I should add you to Ignore now or not.

Yeah still hold true, had to take you off of ignore just to reread your chat to put in here, cant wait to put you back on.

[Woodruff]

1st point
You totally left out a lot of context to that game chat to benefit your cause there 2dank.

Let me clear it up for all the readers that didnt bother to check the game

Round 14 Blue (trymebyfire) had a 4 troop territory bonus for owning 13 territories and in that round on his go he annihilated 5 of your (2dank's) territories in Western Africa.

In the same round Green (adolf_frogler) had a 3 troop territory bonus for owning 7 territories, cashed for 6 were he deployed all in the Congo over several territories and attacked a weakly guarded territory to get a card.

Next round Blue (trymebyfire) had the Maghreb bonus along with the Western Coast bonus that he just took over you to get.He deployed to protect his newly claimed Bonuses and attacked a weakly guarded territory of Green's (adolf_frogler) to get a card. Green is still the weakest in the game as far as territories at this point with 7 while everyone else has double digits. Now I cant tell how many troops Blue (trymebyfire) had defending his bonus at this time except the 10 he just deployed to protect from the Egypt side. But its obvious he doesnt see Green (adolf_frogler) as a threat due to his troop/territory count and probably figures that Green (adolf_frogler) wont risk all his troops trying to break into him and ending the game for himself.

You complain about Green (adolf_frogler) not taking over Egypt from Blue (trymebyfire) and allowing him to get those 2 bonuses in chat. Maybe he had bad dice and couldnt break those 2 he had on Egypt, maybe he was the weakest and expected you or yellow (tadowdaddy) who both had a bonus for +5 rounds before this to pick up the weight.

Either way Fact of the matter is Blue (trymebyfire) held the bonus for 2 rounds, and you and the other player both being greatly superior to Green (adolf_frogler) did nothing about it, but expected him to and when he didnt you post this in chat:

2009-04-17 01:34:30 - 2dank: Yellow border truce I will not attack your bonus & you will not attack mine agreed?

Green (adolf_frogler) had 7 and 6 regions respectively on both turns that Blue (trymebyfire) owned those 2 bonuses. Dont think he thought he could break the bonus(es) and still be strong enough to survive.

2nd point

I find it crazy that a player of your rank Sam would write this.
"I'm willing to bet he had an unsaid alliance with blue that didn't need to be proclaimed cause you ponied up for non aggressions with yellow."
ANY AND ALL ALLIANCES MUST BE DISCLOSED IN GAME CHAT! CC rules state "Rule #2: No secret diplomacy
yada, yada, yada
So your comment of [b]"unsaid alliance with blue that didn't need to be proclaimed cause you ponied up for non aggressions with yellow." Is absurd!!!!
He still by CC Rules has to disclose any truce, alliance they had!

You ponied up for an alliance with the other player in a now 4 player game. Yeah when the tables are seriously sliding to one side, or their is an alliance in place like you two had the other parties in the game tend to focus their attentions off of each other and on to the other ones to help even the game or to survive longer. This is common sense, and quite frankly with your experience you should know this.

Their is no rule violation by them to essentially have non aggressions towards each other and focus them on you two, even without saying anything in chat about it. Their playing the game to survive and win.

As for your comment here "you know better and have to know when you act like an ass in chat it will get you unwanted attention. "

How did I act like an ASS? Was it when apologized for going through him the first time to brake Blue? Because he had just not broken blue when he had an easy 2 he could kill to brake one of blues 2 bonuses?

None of those things you pulled out of game chat is what I'm referring to. This was the part I mentioned above where you absolutely quoted yourself way out of context to benefit you. Here is what I'm talking about:

2009-04-17 17:45:50 - 2dank: lol Green welcome to Ignore. Your level of game play is moronic
2009-04-17 17:46:19 - 2dank: Just give the game away! How the hell did you ever get to that rank?
2009-04-17 17:46:35 - 2dank: Way your playing is ? at highest!
2009-04-17 17:47:19 - 2dank: GG Blue make sure to leave Green Nice FEED BACK for giving the GAME AWAY!
2009-04-17 17:47:33 - 2dank: I'm going to level him cheater Feedback!
2009-04-17 18:25:44 - 2dank: posting.php?mode=post&f=5
2009-04-18 13:45:41 - 2dank: lol CRYBABY! You didn't fight Blue so he KILL YOU! You game play is on the 3 grade level child!
2009-04-18 14:13:53 - 2dank: Blue how's it feel to win? When you are given the game? Doesn't it take something out of the Victory?
2009-04-18 14:53:39 - 2dank: You didn't answer any of the Quetions Blue! Does it take away from the feeling of really Winning? Do you enjoy douchebags giving you games?
2009-04-18 14:54:32 - 2dank: Blue id Green you gay lover? I think he is! Welcome to ignore too dipshit!
2009-04-18 14:57:04 - 2dank: * is

This all came after a few rounds of your alliance with yellow (tadowdaddy) not going your way.


3rd point

King if you still hold to your above post please reply. Letting me know so.
So I know if I should add you to Ignore now or not.

Yeah still hold true, had to take you off of ignore just to reread your chat to put in here, cant wait to put you back on.

Extremely well done, as always King Sam. Amazing that he thought he could just BS his way through that, particularly when someone would be looking at the game closely to determine "cheatingness".

[2dank]

You need to go back to the start DUDE!

Blue Never took a bonus from me. Those 5 guys where on 2 different lands from when I attacked and broke both his bonuses 1 round earlier.

I'd have a better chance talking to a wall then some CC player with a CLOSED Uneducated MIND! (Uneducated because you didn't do your research deep enough to get to the truth.)


I'll going to save myself of having to deal with a closed minded individual like yourself by adding you to my Ignore list now.


After rereading everything you posted above again I have to laugh!

Me miss quoting! LMFAO!

Your post is so far off from how the rounds transpired it's funny!

We formed our Border Truce because we where the weaker parties! I don't form truces unless I'm at a disadvantage.

You are either HIGH or 13 years old and not smart enough to put game clocked turns in there right place along side or game chat!


Welcome to Ignore!


And since I have never played with you before. I know your full of it saying, I was already on yours!

[Woodruff]

And since I have never played with you before. I know your full of it saying, I was already on yours!

Actually, no...I have never played a game with you, and yet you ARE on my foe list. You're on my foe list due to your unrepentant desire to abuse people within the game-chat (as has been displayed in this thread, in fact).

[king sam]

Next round Blue (trymebyfire) had the Maghreb bonus along with the Western Coast bonus that he just took over you to get.

Re read the quote, never said he took a bonus that you held rather he took over 5 territories that you had in both those regions to claim both those bonuses.

And further more you and yellow continued to have your bonuses several rounds after he did this.

Green had 7 regions at the beginning of the 1st turn that Blue held that bonus and 6 on the next. Green was the weakest player, and you made him weaker by going through him to get to Blue.

Green in his right mind would not could not break Blue. Nor should he have, if he had even tried (successfully/unsuccessfully) all he would have done would have been what you were looking for and that is:

• weaken Blue so you could not be threatened by him
• allow him self for easy elimination
• allow you a leg up on being the victor of the game

Since he didnt play by your rules and help your cause you blew up the chat with rude and crude language, and then come in here and write a bogus report about it.

Sorry you didnt win, there will be other games. Fortunately for me those other games you will be in wont include me.

Thanks,
KS

[Woodruff]

Since he didnt play by your rules and help your cause you blew up the chat with rude and crude language, and then come in here and write a bogus report about it.

Deserving of at least a warning in and of itself.

[JCKing]

Yep should warrant a warning. Thanks to king sam looking into this. Anyway I'm pretty sure this battle is lost, 2dank shouldn't be throwing around flames at people especially king sam.

[king achilles]

Cleared.

Things might have not gone the way you would hope for and adolf_frogler might have a differnt game play and/or got irritated with what was said in the game chat. You threatened green that if he didn't attack blue you would wipe him. When that was not followed, well, you know how the game chat went. Sometimes, it's how you say things that is heard more.