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[P Gizzle]

Vietnam war... the only war that america fought from the start on their own... and what happens?

ok, what about the Revolutionary War, the War of 1812? dare i mention that we also BEAT BRITAIN'S BUTT back home to europe.....
we fought Civil War on our own, you (assuming ur from britain) actually helped out the Confederates..why? cuz you wanted cheap cotton....

Fact is most of the sport played in america are barely played anywhere else, baseball, american football, basketball. They're all sports where nothing really matters in the game, if someone scores in backetball i'm like so what... they get like a hundrew points a game. Where-as in football, 1 goal can decide the game! it keeps the atmosphere tense as you know that even if you're team's much better they could loose easily by just 1 mistake!

ok, first baseball is played all over the western hemisphere and is UNBELIEVABLY popular in the West Indies....Baskeball has been slowing taking over the world for years....if you ever watch NBA, half the players are from a different country....and things matter in baseball AND American Football...

first, baseball usually is around 3-4 points in a game.....and sometimes it gets down to that final inning, that final out to finish it off.
Good football(the american kind) usually is a one-goal game difference...if not even less than a Touchdown!

[Titanic]

Firstly, America did no win the War fo 1812. USA set out to conquer Canada. You failed. Britain objective was to hold Canada, which they suceeded in. During that war your capital was burnt down, and your presidential house was invaded by your enemy.

In WWI, USA played a very limited role. They came in as Germany was already staving and running rapidly out of resources(if I remember correct, before USA came in the Germans were already on 6 days of food per week).

In WWII, Hitler could not invade Britain cause the Navy and RAF were too strong for the Luftwaffe and German Navy, as shown in the Battle of Britain.

You lost in Korea as you actually got to the Chinese border, and were pushed back, (to the 58th or 56th parralel). Initially you did very well, but in the end your objectives were not completed and you lost a lot of land towards the end of the war.

Jamie, stop your patiotism shit. A load of farmers beat the English army? Firstly, that was 1 division of our army. It was your whole national army vs 1 division of ours. Our army was spread out across the globe fighting numerous battles, your army had 1 war. Secondly, it wasn farmers, it was trained militia, and most of your generals were trained by the British and were taught military by the British during the Seven-Years war. Thirdly, France and other European nations helped you fck loads. They supplied you with shit loads of ammunition and resources, and also used their naval might to dirupt the Royal Navy(who could have clean sweeped your so called "navy" with their hands tied behind their back and with blindfolds on.)

Also, Afghanistan paid the price for 9/11? Afghanistan sure did. AQ and the Taliban sure didnt.

[P Gizzle]

Firstly, America did no win the War fo 1812. USA set out to conquer Canada. You failed. Britain objective was to hold Canada, which they suceeded in. During that war your capital was burnt down, and your presidential house was invaded by your enemy.

we weren't taken over by Britain, and we got free trade back, so i'd say we still won

[edmundomcpot]

but we never set out to conquer you in the first place non of your objectives were acheived so..thats like saying you trashed the veitmanese

[hawkeye]

They're both good. Now all of you go kill yourselves.

[P Gizzle]

but we never set out to conquer you in the first place non of your objectives were acheived so..thats like saying you trashed the veitmanese

well, our REAL objective was to not get taken over by Britain, after all you started it by taking our sailors....

[Titanic]

Um, you started the war. You attacked us, we never attacked your territroy first. We never had any interest in invading you, we were just holding onto our terrritories(Canada and Newfoundland) whilst we were fighting Napolean. You were the ones who wanted to exapnd, we were happy with our position in the Americas.

The only reason the Royal Navy boarded your ships was because we were in a war with Napolean. He was quite a bit stronger then you, and if you didn trade commercially with him, we wudn have boarded your ships. We only boarded your ships to keep our monopoly on world trade and to harrass Napoleans supply and to attack his resources.

With our monopoly on the oceans, thanks to the Royal navy, we were in a better position against Napolean, who was out true enemy at that time, USA was just a sideshow. Did you know the war of 1812 isn even taught as our schools until we are 17, and that is only if the school follows the American studies course. The War of 1812 is a minor, non-influencial war in our history. The Battle of Waterloo and the Napolianic wars in general are far more important then a war in which there were only really 2/3 battles which were noteworthy.

[P Gizzle]

The only reason the Royal Navy boarded your ships was because we were in a war with Napolean. He was quite a bit stronger then you, and if you didn trade commercially with him, we wudn have boarded your ships. We only boarded your ships to keep our monopoly on world trade and to harrass Napoleans supply and to attack his resources.

this is my last post.....ok, so you say that if we would have helped you (who we recently gained independence from) you wouldn't have attacked you? well, we did help you AND Napoleon, after all France DID help us get away from you.....we owed them, you can understand right? kind of like how France owes you and me for the help in WWII.....

Did you know the war of 1812 isn even taught as our schools until we are 17, and that is only if the school follows the American studies course. [/quote]

im not 17 and i've been taught, so that's weird....i DO watch a lot of the History Channel though.....love HISTORY

[DIRESTRAITS]

Firstly, America did no win the War fo 1812. USA set out to conquer Canada. You failed. Britain objective was to hold Canada, which they suceeded in. During that war your capital was burnt down, and your presidential house was invaded by your enemy.

In WWI, USA played a very limited role. They came in as Germany was already staving and running rapidly out of resources(if I remember correct, before USA came in the Germans were already on 6 days of food per week).

In WWII, Hitler could not invade Britain cause the Navy and RAF were too strong for the Luftwaffe and German Navy, as shown in the Battle of Britain.

You lost in Korea as you actually got to the Chinese border, and were pushed back, (to the 58th or 56th parralel). Initially you did very well, but in the end your objectives were not completed and you lost a lot of land towards the end of the war.

Jamie, stop your patiotism shit. A load of farmers beat the English army? Firstly, that was 1 division of our army. It was your whole national army vs 1 division of ours. Our army was spread out across the globe fighting numerous battles, your army had 1 war. Secondly, it wasn farmers, it was trained militia, and most of your generals were trained by the British and were taught military by the British during the Seven-Years war. Thirdly, France and other European nations helped you fck loads. They supplied you with shit loads of ammunition and resources, and also used their naval might to dirupt the Royal Navy(who could have clean sweeped your so called "navy" with their hands tied behind their back and with blindfolds on.)

Also, Afghanistan paid the price for 9/11? Afghanistan sure did. AQ and the Taliban sure didnt.

Actually, Americas real objective was to get respect and be recognized by England as a real country, as well as protect the Louisiana purchase. We acheived both of those goals, so we won

[Titanic]

Get respect? No country sets an objective of war to “Get respect!” You wanted more land and British North America(Canada) was your goal, thats why you attacked Canada during the war. If you had clever leaders you would have realised that the harrassment the Royal Navy gave you would have ended in 2 years after we defeated Napolean.

Btw, trading with France because they saved you in the previous war is no reason to trade with them. We dont trade with you now because you helped us out in WWII. P Dizzle, are you American or British? Obviously Americans will learn about the war of 1812, its their history. To us its nothing, an insignificicant event in our glorious history.

[P Gizzle]

Btw, trading with France because they saved you in the previous war is no reason to trade with them. We dont trade with you now because you helped us out in WWII. P Dizzle, are you American or British? Obviously Americans will learn about the war of 1812, its their history. To us its nothing, an insignificicant event in our glorious history.

im a proud American.....and you do have a very glorious history....out of curiosity, how much do you learn about the American Revolution? i was just wondering, since usually dark spots in history are usually left out, which is why Vietnam hasn't been taught to me yet

[DIRESTRAITS]

Btw, trading with France because they saved you in the previous war is no reason to trade with them. We dont trade with you now because you helped us out in WWII. P Dizzle, are you American or British? Obviously Americans will learn about the war of 1812, its their history. To us its nothing, an insignificicant event in our glorious history.

im a proud American.....and you do have a very glorious history....out of curiosity, how much do you learn about the American Revolution? i was just wondering, since usually dark spots in history are usually left out, which is why Vietnam hasn't been taught to me yet

LOL

U havent learned about Vietnam? Most of the teachers here hate America, so they use every chance they get to bring up 'Nam

[Titanic]

I studied History upto 16, and I was taught very little if anything about the revolution at school. I have learnt most of my history from books, tv, and the internet(mainly Wikipedia). At school we were taught mainly about the very recent wars (WWI, WWII, Cold War) and the medieval wars we fought (Battle of Hastings, War of the Roses etc..)

[P Gizzle]

I studied History upto 16, and I was taught very little if anything about the revolution at school. I have learnt most of my history from books, tv, and the internet(mainly Wikipedia). At school we were taught mainly about the very recent wars (WWI, WWII, Cold War) and the medieval wars we fought (Battle of Hastings, War of the Roses etc..)

yeah, I love learning about the revolution......and there's not much on it on TV, so i learn most of it in school, and i watch WWII stuff on TV.....

and yeah, at my school, they haven't taught us that YET, but i think we're gettin there soon....but my history teachers have been the proud american type, so they like Civil War, and Rev....

[dcowboys055]

In WWI, USA played a very limited role. They came in as Germany was already staving and running rapidly out of resources(if I remember correct, before USA came in the Germans were already on 6 days of food per week).

bullshit.

In WWII, Hitler could not invade Britain cause the Navy and RAF were too strong for the Luftwaffe and German Navy, as shown in the Battle of Britain.

correct, but that's not why WWII was won by the allies, completely missing the point.

[Titanic]

Ill find you the proof about the German rations tomorrow, its in a book I read. My second point merely states that we were safe from Germany, our objective after the Battle of Britain was actually to invade, we had proved to the Germans that they could not conquer us. Also, this was a vital stepping stone in defeating Germany, as if we fell, USA would have had to enter Europe probably via Africa or the Middle East, which would have been costlier in troops, time, resources and money.

[heavycola]

this is the most moronic thread yet posted in this forum, which is quite an achievement.

[dcowboys055]

Ill find you the proof about the German rations tomorrow, its in a book I read. My second point merely states that we were safe from Germany, our objective after the Battle of Britain was actually to invade, we had proved to the Germans that they could not conquer us. Also, this was a vital stepping stone in defeating Germany, as if we fell, USA would have had to enter Europe probably via Africa or the Middle East, which would have been costlier in troops, time, resources and money.

i didnt mean about the rations, i meant the fact you said america did very little.

[hawkeye]

this is the most moronic thread yet posted in this forum, which is quite an achievement.

Seconded.

[Titanic]

In WWI, USA's part was very minimal. They stayed neutral for 3 our of the 4 years, and the only reason they did well was because every other country was tired and stretched to their limits. They were not involved in the Battle of Amiens, which was the crucial battle in the defeat of Germany(or any other of the major battles throughout the course of the war), and their whole role in WWI was pretty much supplying troops to the front line to help outnumber Germany.

WWII was a different story, as they were the main force in the Pacific, and it would have taken a much longer time for the allies w/o USA to defeat Japan.

[dcowboys055]

In WWI, USA's part was very minimal. They stayed neutral for 3 our of the 4 years, and the only reason they did well was because every other country was tired and stretched to their limits. They were not involved in the Battle of Amiens, which was the crucial battle in the defeat of Germany(or any other of the major battles throughout the course of the war), and their whole role in WWI was pretty much supplying troops to the front line to help outnumber Germany.

WWII was a different story, as they were the main force in the Pacific, and it would have taken a much longer time for the allies w/o USA to defeat Japan.

that just isn't true. yes, the americans weren't as exhausted as the other countries but without them france and england wouldnt have won. foch's final plan to break right through the center of the western front wouldnt have worked without the american troops. the american's pushed back the germans from the south (something salient, i forget the name) in an incredibly short amount of time, and then moved all the way north to join our allies in the surge right into the gut of the germans. obviously the americans effort wasnt half as much as in WWII but without the AEF germany would have won.

[kcoenich]

In WWII, Hitler could not invade Britain cause the Navy and RAF were too strong for the Luftwaffe and German Navy, as shown in the Battle of Britain.

Sorry my friend, but what I know is that Britain won that battle because they bombed a german city (don´t remember what) and Hilter in a vendetta start bombing cities like London, that gave you time to repair airfields and planes to get back in the battle...
undertand you are english, I think your teachers are a little partial in their teachings. of course I´m not saying my information is wrong, thats only what I know.

[edmundomcpot]

yeh Hitler stopped bombing airfeilds, which was a major decision in the battle, however it was our actions that made him change tactics.

Then my Grandad signed up to be in a lancaster, the day he passed was the day germany surrended. So in my grandads words "Hitler saw me coming"

[Titanic]

Yer, Germany were doing well whilst they bombed our hanger and airfields, but they thought it was going really badly because every night out planes were out there fighting them, so they resorted to physcological wafare in bombing our cities. If they knew that bombing the airfields would have probably won the battle for them they would have continued that, but from their perspective that tactic was not working.

Btw, even if they defeated the RAF, they were still no competition for the Royal Navy, so making that cross over the channel would still have been very costly, if not suicidal.

[dcowboys055]

Then my Grandad signed up to be in a lancaster, the day he passed was the day germany surrended. So in my grandads words "Hitler saw me coming"

lol