President John McCain

[alex951]

Were would the U.S. be if John McCain won the presidential election? would thing be different?

[spurgistan]

Bad. Yes.

[ViperOverLord]

Free market capitalism would not be as inhibited. Unemployment would probably be under 6.5 percent. The media would be doing their daily death counts for Aghanistan. The Democrats would be looking at gaining seats in The House, Senate and possibly the governorships. Sarah Palin would have taken her place as the next Dan Quayle, sufficiently smashed by the media and unable to run for the presidency. Barrack Obama would still be everyone's hero and he and the Clintons would be looking for ways to subtly denigrate each other as they prepare for runs in 2012. The liberal media would be going on about how a decade of Bush style politics are screwing us over. There would still be a budget deficit, but nowhere near what is now. Health care cost would not have went up 20 percent and we would have tort reform instead of socialized health care, excuse me 'the public option.' Bureaucracy and socialism would not be as rampant. Liberals would be feel like victims still. They would be calling blood for oil and the whole 9 yards and screaming more about corporatism run a muck.

[Army of GOD]

Free market capitalism would not be as inhibited. Unemployment would probably be under 6.5 percent. The media would be doing their daily death counts for Aghanistan. The Democrats would be looking at gaining seats in The House, Senate and possibly the governorships. Sarah Palin would have taken her place as the next Dan Quayle, sufficiently smashed by the media and unable to run for the presidency. Barrack Obama would still be everyone's hero and he and the Clintons would be looking for ways to subtly denigrate each other as they prepare for runs in 2012. The liberal media would be going on about how a decade of Bush style politics are screwing us over. There would still be a budget deficit, but nowhere near what is now. Health care cost would not have went up 20 percent and we would have tort reform instead of socialized health care, excuse me 'the public option.' Bureaucracy and socialism would not be as rampant. Liberals would be feel like victims still. They would be calling blood for oil and the whole 9 yards and screaming more about corporatism run a muck.

Darn! Too bad we didn't elect him then, huh?

[Incandenza]

Free market capitalism would not be as inhibited. Unemployment would probably be under 6.5 percent. The media would be doing their daily death counts for Aghanistan. The Democrats would be looking at gaining seats in The House, Senate and possibly the governorships. Sarah Palin would have taken her place as the next Dan Quayle, sufficiently smashed by the media and unable to run for the presidency. Barrack Obama would still be everyone's hero and he and the Clintons would be looking for ways to subtly denigrate each other as they prepare for runs in 2012. The liberal media would be going on about how a decade of Bush style politics are screwing us over. There would still be a budget deficit, but nowhere near what is now. Health care cost would not have went up 20 percent and we would have tort reform instead of socialized health care, excuse me 'the public option.' Bureaucracy and socialism would not be as rampant. Liberals would be feel like victims still. They would be calling blood for oil and the whole 9 yards and screaming more about corporatism run a muck.

[Victor Sullivan]

John McCain really needs to run in the 2012 election. I thought he got a bad rap, simply for being the same political party as Bush. He's pretty middle-of-the-road Republican and I think he would've gotten a lot more done than Obama has and he DEFINITELY wouldn't have supported that damned health care bill.

[Woodruff]

John McCain really needs to run in the 2012 election. I thought he got a bad rap, simply for being the same political party as Bush. He's pretty middle-of-the-road Republican and I think he would've gotten a lot more done than Obama has and he DEFINITELY wouldn't have supported that damned health care bill.

John Fucking McCain can kiss my military ass. That bastard motherfucker votes on military issues like shit. f*ck him and his whole fucking bullshit hero-fucking-worship.

Not that I feel strongly about it or anything.

[ViperOverLord]

John McCain really needs to run in the 2012 election. I thought he got a bad rap, simply for being the same political party as Bush. He's pretty middle-of-the-road Republican and I think he would've gotten a lot more done than Obama has and he DEFINITELY wouldn't have supported that damned health care bill.

The deck was stacked against him. The economy was bad and Bush approval polls were bad and he was painted as GWB III. He also had to deal with an electorate that wanted to vote for a guy simply because he was a black rock star making history while singing hope and change while the media produced the vids for him. Their records didn't mean shiz in that election. McCain had no chance. All of that said, I'm not rooting for McCain to run again.

[Woodruff]

John McCain really needs to run in the 2012 election. I thought he got a bad rap, simply for being the same political party as Bush. He's pretty middle-of-the-road Republican and I think he would've gotten a lot more done than Obama has and he DEFINITELY wouldn't have supported that damned health care bill.

The deck was stacked against him. The economy was bad and Bush approval polls were bad and he was painted as GWB III. He also had to deal with an electorate that wanted to vote for a guy simply because he was a black rock star making history while singing hope and change while the media produced the vids for him. Their records didn't mean shiz in that election. McCain had no chance. All of that said, I'm not rooting for McCain to run again.

I think his age would be his largest handicap (particularly depending on who his running mate was, but even if it was a good option). You're right that he definitely paid for Bush...no question about that.

[oVo]

Uninhibited free market capitalism, is that where bailed out banks would be lending money now? Unemployment under 6.5%... because McCain would hire any of the unemployed who can't find work in the fast food industry at minimum wage out of his own retirement fund? Corporatism run amok is ongoing and both parties problem... actually not a problem at all as both parties seem to receive generous benefits from it. Beaurocracy grew pretty fucking big during Bush's eight years and you expect John to reel it in? I don't think so, but I'm sure McCain would have found a way to end record foreclosures and allow people to keep their homes without government intervention.

John in 2012? Nah... Do you remember his response to the global financial crisis during the presidential campaign. He's still toast.

The Dems are being outspent by a ridiculous margin heading into the November elections and I'm sure there's no corporate cronyism at work there. Gee, think any politician will ever actually push for legitimate campaign reform and how many millions will the next presidential campaign cost? Be honest, it doesn't really matter anymore does it, because corporate America is the real winner regardless of which party is "in control."

[Army of GOD]

Uninhibited free market capitalism, is that where bailed out banks would be lending money now? Unemployment under 6.5%... because McCain would hire any of the unemployed who can't find work in the fast food industry at minimum wage out of his own retirement fund? Corporatism run amok is ongoing and both parties problem... actually not a problem at all as both parties seem to receive generous benefits from it. Beaurocracy grew pretty fucking big during Bush's eight years and you expect John to reel it in? I don't think so, but I'm sure McCain would have found a way to end record foreclosures and allow people to keep their homes without government intervention.

John in 2012? Nah... Do you remember his response to the global financial crisis during the presidential campaign. He's still toast.

The Dems are being outspent by a ridiculous margin heading into the November elections and I'm sure there's no corporate cronyism at work there. Gee, think any politician will ever actually push for legitimate campaign reform and how many millions will the next presidential campaign cost? Be honest, it doesn't really matter anymore does it, because corporate America is the real winner regardless of which party is "in control."

That's an amazing avatar

[ViperOverLord]

Uninhibited free market capitalism, is that where bailed out banks would be lending money now? Unemployment under 6.5%... because McCain would hire any of the unemployed who can't find work in the fast food industry at minimum wage out of his own retirement fund? Corporatism run amok is ongoing and both parties problem... actually not a problem at all as both parties seem to receive generous benefits from it. Beaurocracy grew pretty fucking big during Bush's eight years and you expect John to reel it in? I don't think so, but I'm sure McCain would have found a way to end record foreclosures and allow people to keep their homes without government intervention.

John in 2012? Nah... Do you remember his response to the global financial crisis during the presidential campaign. He's still toast.

The Dems are being outspent by a ridiculous margin heading into the November elections and I'm sure there's no corporate cronyism at work there. Gee, think any politician will ever actually push for legitimate campaign reform and how many millions will the next presidential campaign cost? Be honest, it doesn't really matter anymore does it, because corporate America is the real winner regardless of which party is "in control."

I said free market capitalism would be less inhibited and not uninhibited. I did not say McCain would not have done the bailouts. But health care is one example where free market capitalism would be less inhibited. McCain wanted to allow cross state insurance which makes complete sense. Unemployment would be down yes. Right now businesses are biding their time while Obama raises taxes right and left and as a result they are not hiring. Bla bla bla about bureaucracy growing under Bush. He added the Department of Homeland security and some agencies increased in size, but by no means did he go about creating hundreds and even thousands of bureaucracies like Obama so don't be throwing me your red herring argument. I didn't say anything about foreclosures, but I don't think Obama has done a damn thing to stop the foreclosure problem and in fact banks did not use his bailout funds to help the people, so he certainly couldn't have done worse. Nor would have McCain passed a 3.8 percent medicare tax that would f up the future of the home sales market. John's response to the financial global crisis? Yea I remember him stopping his campaign and going back to work. I remember Bill Clinton calling Obama out for not being smart enough to understand the crisis too. And as for Republicans outspending Dems well that's because the corporations don't want to spend their money on losers. Figure that one out. And it goes both ways. In 08, Obama had way more money to work with than McCain. Obama wasn't clamoring that it was unfair then. And I admit that corporatism is a problem, but I don't sit there and act like that it's as simple as all that. We can figure out ways to reign in their power but let's not pretend that they pull all the strings because they don't.

[CreepersWiener]

And what if President John McCain died?

[ViperOverLord]

President McCain would not have had to be condescended to by Senator Obama while having that felonious health care summit in which Republicans supposedly were going to have their ideas listened to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPsbV-IvLDU

[Night Strike]

I think his age would be his largest handicap (particularly depending on who his running mate was, but even if it was a good option). You're right that he definitely paid for Bush...no question about that.

Speaking of that, shouldn't he be dead by now? I know that was one of the arguments against voting for him since Palin would then become president.

[spurgistan]

I think his age would be his largest handicap (particularly depending on who his running mate was, but even if it was a good option). You're right that he definitely paid for Bush...no question about that.

Speaking of that, shouldn't he be dead by now? I know that was one of the arguments against voting for him since Palin would then become president.

Could, not would. And I'm hoping you're right, that McCain will live for a goodly long while. Maybe he'll live long enough to rediscover his spine?

[oVo]

The bailout occurred with Bush in office and this is about John McCain... not Obama. So the financial crunch... John did pause his campaign and go back to Washington where he rolled up his sleeves and discovered he had nothing to offer beyond his embarrassment that all those years in office he didn't see it coming. Hard to imagine a bunch of greedy investment banker types would abuse the system for profits beyond anyone's belief without government regulations over transactions. Doh! Um... not to get away from the subject... but recent history gave us a Dick Cheney who's corporate strings are barely transparent... who would say WTF? EVERYBODY WINS! (except the Yankees eh?) and corporatism won't be reigned in during our lifetime. It is what it is... quid pro quo and IT is here to stay, because it is now business as usual.

[ViperOverLord]

The bailout occurred with Bush in office and this is about John McCain... not Obama. So the financial crunch... John did pause his campaign and go back to Washington where he rolled up his sleeves and discovered he had nothing to offer beyond his embarrassment that all those years in office he didn't see it coming. Hard to imagine a bunch of greedy investment banker types would abuse the system for profits beyond anyone's belief without government regulations over transactions. Doh! Um... not to get away from the subject... but recent history gave us a Dick Cheney who's corporate strings are barely transparent... who would say WTF? EVERYBODY WINS! (except the Yankees eh?) and corporatism won't be reigned in during our lifetime. It is what it is... quid pro quo and IT is here to stay, because it is now business as usual.

OK so you're claiming we'd have the same bailouts that Obama did? What is your point? It still doesn't relate to anything I initially said.

[The Bison King]

I think having Sara Palin as his running mate crippled his chances too. If McCain was elected there would be no tea party.

[Gold Knight]

Free market capitalism would not be as inhibited. Unemployment would probably be under 6.5 percent. The media would be doing their daily death counts for Aghanistan. The Democrats would be looking at gaining seats in The House, Senate and possibly the governorships. Sarah Palin would have taken her place as the next Dan Quayle, sufficiently smashed by the media and unable to run for the presidency. Barrack Obama would still be everyone's hero and he and the Clintons would be looking for ways to subtly denigrate each other as they prepare for runs in 2012. The liberal media would be going on about how a decade of Bush style politics are screwing us over. There would still be a budget deficit, but nowhere near what is now. Health care cost would not have went up 20 percent and we would have tort reform instead of socialized health care, excuse me 'the public option.' Bureaucracy and socialism would not be as rampant. Liberals would be feel like victims still. They would be calling blood for oil and the whole 9 yards and screaming more about corporatism run a muck.

This needs to be posted more often...

[GabonX]

John in 2012? Nah... Do you remember his response to the global financial crisis during the presidential campaign. He's still toast.

God forbid a Senator would want to suspend a political campaign to address a national crisis.

And what if President John McCain died?

Our President would have nice tits and still be more fit for the job (though "more fit for" is not the same as "fit for") ...

[Woodruff]

I think his age would be his largest handicap (particularly depending on who his running mate was, but even if it was a good option). You're right that he definitely paid for Bush...no question about that.

Speaking of that, shouldn't he be dead by now? I know that was one of the arguments against voting for him since Palin would then become president.

I think it was a legitimate argument. The idea of Sarah Palin as our President would have been enough for me to vote against him even if his voting record on military matters weren't blasphemous.

[oVo]

God forbid a Senator would want to suspend a political campaign
to address a national crisis.

The thing at the time was that his staff went to great lengths to promote this fact.
Unfortunately for McCain it only showed how ineffectual he was to the process
of resolving this calamity and instead publicized the fact he had no solution.

I'm feeling much better today, now that airlines are publishing their 3rd quarter profits
of hundreds of millions of dollars. We can all feel secure in the knowledge that the
economy has begun turning around.

[GabonX]

God forbid a Senator would want to suspend a political campaign
to address a national crisis.

The thing at the time was that his staff went to great lengths to promote this fact.
Unfortunately for McCain it only showed how ineffectual he was to the process
of resolving this calamity and instead publicized the fact he had no solution.

I'm feeling much better today, now that airlines are publishing their 3rd quarter profits
of hundreds of millions of dollars. We can all feel secure in the knowledge that the
economy has begun turning around.

lol

[alex951]

where did McCain stand on the bailout? I forgot