The Terminator & the Immortals

by **Nobunaga** on Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:06 pm

... On the exponential growth of artificial intelligence and the extension of human life to near immortality.

... Artificial intelligence will outpace human intelligence in 2045 (article states).

... This is cool science.

http://www.time.com/time/health/article ... -1,00.html

by **Army of GOD** on Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:43 pm

As long as we don't give them emotions, we're fine!

by **TA1LGUNN3R** on Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:46 pm

Awesome!! I've always had much fascination with this subject. Good find. It's very awkward to discuss this with rl people, though. They give me strange looks whenever I talk about this.

-TG

by **safariguy5** on Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:31 pm

I had a guest speaker talk about the different cellular and DNA repairs that can be done to the human body. Assuming we could correct the problems with all 8 problems both intracellular and extracellular and get repairs done periodically, we could theoretically live forever.

by **BigBallinStalin** on Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:50 am

From an article I read a few years back, I recall how someone was speculating--actually a group of them--were working on constructing something similar to an electronic brain (yeah, I'm bad on these technical terms), but the circuit board or whatever it was would fire and misfire as many times as a brain's synapses, which are very inefficient.

For example, if you see a green keyboard, most of your brain (or synapses) will say, GREEN, while ever smaller parts say different colors, and since GREEN is the most "shouted" over the noise, GREEN is what your brain determines.

They think that's connected to human creativity, so if a computer could emulate such a thought process, maybe it could produce some very interesting results.

by **thegreekdog** on Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:45 am

http://www.time.com/time/health/article ... 38,00.html

I have not read the entire article yet, but my dad predicted this a few years ago (and by "predicted" I mean "We'll be living in computers soon.")

by **AndyDufresne** on Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:23 am

Related, somewhat, companies and lawyers are pushing for 'Digital Executors'---
http://www.thedigitalbeyond.com/tag/digital-executor/
http://www.deathanddigitallegacy.com/20 ... -executor/

--Andy

by **Army of GOD** on Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:34 pm

Funny, because you both used the base word "Immortal" in your titles

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=137729

If I were a moderator...

Also, no matter what immortality is impossible because eventually matter itself will break down and the Universe will collapse again...

by **thegreekdog** on Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:35 pm

Whoops - good catch AOG. Now go play the team game we have. You have 2 hours left to take your turn.

by **Army of GOD** on Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:36 pm

I just woke up! Hold on...

by **Metsfanmax** on Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:40 pm

While the subject of the singularity is probably important, I do not believe that anyone still takes Kurzweil seriously...

by **Army of GOD** on Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:48 pm

The thing that I don't understand is how can any sort of AI become MORE intelligent than the person(s) that created it? I mean, I'm thinking about the IBM computer that's gonna be on Jeopardy in a few days, but isn't that just a large set of facts that are set off after a spoken order?

by **Metsfanmax** on Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:52 pm

Army of GOD wrote:The thing that I don't understand is how can any sort of AI become MORE intelligent than the person(s) that created it?

The reason it's possible is simply because computers are more efficient memory machines than we are. We may not be able to teach a computer to learn more efficiently than we can, but it will be able to accomplish the same task in a faster amount of time, and it can retain everything it learns.

I mean, I'm thinking about the IBM computer that's gonna be on Jeopardy in a few days, but isn't that just a large set of facts that are set off after a spoken order?

The trick in the "AI" behind Watson is that it has to be able to infer context from a given statement. Still, programming Watson is a trivial task compared to figuring out how to teach a robot to truly learn.

by **maasman** on Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:59 pm

I personally can't wait for all this to happen, and I'm glad I live in a time where I can be around to see it.

by **BigBallinStalin** on Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:10 pm

Army of GOD wrote:The thing that I don't understand is how can any sort of AI become MORE intelligent than the person(s) that created it? I mean, I'm thinking about the IBM computer that's gonna be on Jeopardy in a few days, but isn't that just a large set of facts that are set off after a spoken order?

It depends on when they develop a different approach that computers rely upon to make decisions.

Like that thing I was talking about earlier:
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=137729#p3007135

by **BigBallinStalin** on Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:12 pm

maasman wrote:I personally can't wait for all this to happen, and I'm glad I live in a time where I can be around to see it.

I fervently agree to. =P

by **Army of GOD** on Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:04 pm

Kurzweil was just on El Colbert Report. Apparently he has a documentary coming out called Transcendent Man.

Looks pretty coolio

by **Army of GOD** on Tue May 03, 2011 2:06 am

Everyone, I demand you watch that movie. IT is really, really, really good.

by **TA1LGUNN3R** on Tue May 03, 2011 2:14 am

Army of GOD wrote:Everyone, I demand you watch that movie. IT is really, really, really good.

I'll check it out. Is it on Netflix or online or something?

-TG

by **Army of GOD** on Tue May 03, 2011 2:20 am

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:Everyone, I demand you watch that movie. IT is really, really, really good.

I'll check it out. Is it on Netflix or online or something?

-TG

Last I checked it wasn't on Instant nor did they have the DVD in stock. I torrented it (because I ain't payin' for shit) but it's really good and definitely worth watching.

It's mostly about Kurzweil, but there's also a lot of people who contradict him and say the shit he predicts can't/probably won't happen.

by **Haggis_McMutton** on Tue May 03, 2011 4:18 am

Army of GOD wrote:
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:Everyone, I demand you watch that movie. IT is really, really, really good.

I'll check it out. Is it on Netflix or online or something?

-TG

Last I checked it wasn't on Instant nor did they have the DVD in stock. I torrented it (because I ain't payin' for shit) but it's really good and definitely worth watching.

It's mostly about Kurzweil, but there's also a lot of people who contradict him and say the shit he predicts can't/probably won't happen.

The shit he's predicting probably won't happen.

Not as soon as he's saying it will anyway.

*puts movie on to watch list*

Edit: Also, I've read part of his book, haven't finished it though(have you seen how big that motherfucker is?), and some of his arguments are pretty shit.