In the joke voting stage, F1fth unvotes a random vote on Streaker so he can vote for chapcrap, which already had 1 vote on him.
On page 9:
F1fth wrote:Welcome to the game, evil!
I must say that while I agree that there's not a lot to go on yet, I find your choice for a "random vote" somewhat interesting since there was a bandwagon forming on shield before you cast it. Seems a little too convenient to pass off a joke, but then again I'm as paranoid as Talapus. Just a little more charming.
Nonetheless, for the time being I'm okay with the shield wagon. His vote was rather odd as safari mentioned and since we have a lot of time and room for voting and so little info, I think a little pressure would do us well.
Unvote Vote shieldgenerator7
This was the 4th vote on shield7. It was definitely an attempt at bandwagoning. Saf's comment sounded serious enough, but it seemed like more of a joke vote when put into context, so by using his reasoning to vote for bandwagon, you're just voting for joke voting. And bandwagoning on a joke vote is scummy.
F1fth wrote:Wait, so you're saying that trying to move the game from the pointless joke vote stage to actual discussion is a bad thing? Because that's what Shaggy's post above was trying to do (which indeed is one of the "good points" he made and why I understand his vote on me), and it's what I was trying to do as well with my vote on shield. Your post however doesn't really make much sense to me, nor does it really add anything except a bandwagon vote.
This is the defense for bandwagoning on shield7 on pae 12. Also in that same post:
F1fth wrote:That said, I definitely don't feel like shield is the best option right now, so unvote. I apologize for the windiness, but 'tis my nature. Let me know if it starts to wear on people's nerves and I'll tone it down a bit.
So he basically admits that his vote was a joke vote because it obviously didn't have much weight to it, and when put under pressure he quickly unvoted (this is the first post after having been questioned about his vote).
On page 14 F1fth speculates on the Tal/Chap argument and the daykill.
On page 16:
F1fth wrote:Normally I'd write Chap off as a novice and excitable townie, but I keep noticing his posts have a sense of discomfort about them. The fact that he keeps reiterating that he's town suggests it at the very least. I suspect the possibility he's nervous because he has an anti-town role, so I'm going to Vote Chap as well. I'm still not dead set that he's scum, but I think it's the best case we have.
I believe that's 5 votes making us L-4, though a VC would be very nice. Don't want any mistakes to happen this game.
Bandwagoning. "I'm still not dead set he's scum": could it be because you're scum adn therefore you know he's not?
On page 17 after chapcrap fullclaimed:
F1fth wrote:That claim seems right with me as well though I agree that it was very odd of him to worry about getting NKed as a roleblocker. But this sounds like exactly the type of role that would be in this game and has some flavor to match. Plus, a gambler just doesn't sound scummy enough to me, especially at a resort. It's not impossible that he's still affiliated with scum somehow, but I'm just not getting scum vibes from a role that can block itself. I'm going to unvote.
He is the first to unvote after chapcrap claims.
On page 18 he gives us a handy chart about what chapcrap can do and explains a little more as to why he unvoted. Then he suggests going after the inactives.
On page 21:
F1fth wrote:If his sole post after the joke vote stage was one encouraging the lynch of a possibly powerful town role, then I think that's reason enough to vote Steaker. It's at least preferable to having Squirrel up on the chopping block. I also think the anark case is interesting, but not our best option at this point.
Bandwagoning.
On page 22:
F1fth wrote:Haven't you guys heard of voting no lynch? If no lynch has the most votes then that's what happens I believe.
But if we vote no lynch today, we'll be a day behind as we not only put off finding out solid information about someone's role, but also all the implications that the lynch has. We'll know if people have been pushing for the lynch of an inactive townie or a submarining scum. Otherwise, we're in the same boat tomorrow as we were in day 1 except now whatever scum is in this game has gotten to take a potshot at us, and it's nearly impossible to deduce any meaning from a NK this early in the game. Too much WIFOM involved.
That's not to say I'm opposed to the no lynch, but I just want to make sure everyone considers our options carefully here.
Suggests we could vote no lynch if we didn't want a townie lynched, then rambles about how it would be bad for town, and then says that he is okay with going for a no lynch. Sounds scummy.
On page 25:
F1fth wrote:No vote for me. Curse my meddlesome affinity for gambling. I guess I'm just here to make some noise today.
So we pursue leads from yesterday (really only one, Steaker) or does someone have a different avenue to take us down? Also a question for chap: I understand that if you block yourself you can do nothing the next night. Is that true of those you block or are they blocked on the night the action is sent?
I don't find anything here really scummy, but this means F1fth has no vote today, which he might use as an excuse to lurk/submarine. It seems he does a lot of that in D1, so he might have gambled just so he could have an excuse to submarine.
I skipped quoting some of his posts and just summarized them because they sounded very town-like (and yes this is a manipulative strategy) and I couldn't find any scum tells in them so I decided, "what;s the point in quoting them?"
Honestly, because of those posts of F1fth that he made that sounded very townish, I am actually doubting whether he's genuinely scum, but I do find his D1 bandwagoning very suspicious and I think that is enough reason to
Vote F1fth.
That, and I didn't really see any other player who really stuck out except for the ones already mentiond (nark and streak), and we seem to have a lack for a D2 lead. So this is my case, perhaps a little weak, but at least it's better than non-existent. And I'd be interested in hearing what F1fth has to say about his D1 bandwagoning.
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