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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - gameplay choice

Postby thenobodies80 on Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:00 am

this one belongs to the drafting room.

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - gameplay choice

Postby Oneyed on Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:07 am

thanks nobodies :)
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - gameplay choice

Postby natty dread on Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:15 am

My biggest concern with this is, that you have again started from the small image. Since every map needs both a small & large image, it would be wisest for you to start from the large image, since it will be very difficult to create the large image from the small, but relatively simple to shrink the large to the small.

I think it would be best for you to switch to the large image now that you haven't put that much work into this image yet. It would mean redrawing your map, but trust me it's better to have to do it now rather than when you've put weeks of work in your current image.

The size difference between large & small should be at least 9% but 25% is recommended. 25% would make your large image 840 pixels wide, based on your current image.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - gameplay choice

Postby Oneyed on Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:47 am

here is large version.

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - gameplay choice

Postby natty dread on Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:49 am

Good, just redraw Praha & Bratislava, those look pixelated now...
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - gameplay choice

Postby Oneyed on Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:58 am

natty_dread wrote:Good, just redraw Praha & Bratislava, those look pixelated now...


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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - gameplay choice

Postby natty dread on Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:05 am

No, they are still pixelated. Just redraw them.

For that matter, you need to redraw the town icons as well...
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - updated

Postby Oneyed on Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:42 pm

a little changed some things
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or this one?
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - updated

Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:24 am

Oneyed wrote:a little changed some things
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I like the color in this one. It looks less washed out, while also not being too light or bright or overpowering.


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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - what next?

Postby Oneyed on Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:36 am

thanks Andy. I do not know what happends to the background, but I can not have it as in version which you like... I will try to find problem.

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - what next?

Postby Oneyed on Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:44 am

better? I "lost" my eye for this, so help me :D

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - large version

Postby Industrial Helix on Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:37 pm

You may want to consider making the Cr and SR each their own colors with varieties of shades in each territory
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - large version

Postby Oneyed on Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:48 am

Industrial Helix wrote:You may want to consider making the Cr and SR each their own colors with varieties of shades in each territory


I can not "divide" CzechoSlovakia this way. it is still one country and it is divided by gameplay. only if this will be necessary. thanks.

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - large version

Postby Industrial Helix on Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:45 pm

Oneyed wrote:
Industrial Helix wrote:You may want to consider making the Cr and SR each their own colors with varieties of shades in each territory


I can not "divide" CzechoSlovakia this way. it is still one country and it is divided by gameplay. only if this will be necessary. thanks.

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Well, I think it would seriously help clear things up as unless a person is familiar with the geography of Czechoslovakia, it is going to be hard to determine where exactly Slovakia and the Czech Rep. are exactly. I'm not saying it is mandatory, but you should look at clearing up this issue soon.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - large version

Postby tokle on Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:07 pm

Rather than having the border between Czechia and Slovakia a different colour, you could make it like the outer border of the country. That might work.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - brand new large version

Postby Oneyed on Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:43 pm

ok, here is a new version. I hope AndyDufresne will like that is not washed out :) , natty dread will not find anything pixelated :), Industrial Helix and tokle will have clear where is Czech republic and where Slovak republic :) ...

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - brand new large version

Postby Flapcake on Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:31 pm

Oneyed, Its not that I or we are picking on you for fun, beleve me I realy like your map and want to see it online, but but, still to many pixels, the cirkels, the cities and the coat of arms are very pixelated.

I cant help you becourse I have to sit with it my self to know what to do. Im sure you will get same comment from natty or ohter, and im sure natty can tell you how to solve that problem.

Edit: your outer borders seem to be nice and smooth, I wonder why the ohter things arent.

keep it up :)

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - brand new large version

Postby natty dread on Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:24 pm

Flapcake is right, there is still pixelation.

The coat of arms... did you draw it yourself or did you get it from somewhere? You could probably find a better quality coat of arms that is free to use.

The town circles are indeed also pixelated. What you could do to create better circles is, use the ellipse selection tool to create a circle-shaped selection, make sure anti-aliasing is enabled. Fill the selection with black, then shrink the selection by 2 pixels, then erase the selection, and there you have an unfilled circle with a 2-pixel wide outline. And it shouldn't have any pixelation if you do it right.

Then to create that smaller circle inside it, just shrink the selection again, by 4 pixels or so, and fill the selection with black.

The outlines of the cities are also still pixelated. You could use the same thing here, except instead of ellipse selection, you use the free selection (lasso) tool. Select a city-shaped area, fill with black, shrink by 2, fill with light grey.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - brand new large version

Postby Oneyed on Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:56 pm

thanks guys feedbacks and to natty for tips. here is what I was able to do. the Towns look fine to me now, but I can not do borders around Praha and Bratislava better. these are new, but still pixelated, I think...
the coat of arms is new too, previous one was on 50% drawn by me. so up to me again, guys :lol:

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - brand new large version

Postby natty dread on Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:09 pm

Did you try the lasso tool for the cities?
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - brand new large version

Postby Oneyed on Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:35 pm

natty dread wrote:Did you try the lasso tool for the cities?


you mean for Praha and Bratislava borders? and lasso tool, you mean Free Select Tool?

I used Free Select Tool and then Bucket Fill Tool, I also used Fuzzy Select Tool with which I select grey centre of city and then I used Draw Selected, I also tried to add Path around city and Draw Path...

it was and still is pixelated...

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - brand new large version

Postby natty dread on Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:36 pm

Yes, the free select tool. First use it to make a city-shaped selection. Do this on a new, empty layer. Then fill the selection with black, then shrink the selection by 2, and then fill the selection with grey.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - brand new large version

Postby Oneyed on Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:15 pm

natty this is made by your advice. so look at this, I can not do it better.... sorry...

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - brand new large version

Postby natty dread on Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:49 pm

That's odd... You should be able to make smooth selections with the free selection tool. When you use it, do you have the "antialiasing" option checked?

Maybe try working at a higher zoom level?
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - brand new large version

Postby Oneyed on Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:44 pm

yes I had always antialiasing choosen. hm, I realy do not know where is problem, look how looks state border, towns...

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natty is here any chance that you can help me with these cities?

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