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Which Religion do you think Obama follows?

 
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Re: What is Obama's Faith? Bill Maher "Doesn't Know"

Postby PLAYER57832 on Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:25 am

Here's a question: Why does Obama's "true" religion even matter. This is not a theocracy!
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Something like that, yes. Although he claims to be a Christian, his actions show otherwise (here's another youtube video of him preaching an ignorant view of the Bible).

Based on his actions and rhetoric, he seems to be a deist or maybe an agnostic. He definitely wouldn't fit into an orthodox religion like Islam or Christianity.



That's the problem with the bible. Any idiot that claims to be a christian is at liberty to interpret the bible anyway he wants, and use it to hurt others all in the name of christianity. Thanks for pointing this out Ray.

But of course your interpretation is THE correct one... :roll: :roll: :roll:

If you READ the Bible, you find that it contains many ideas within one basic framework. The framework is "Christ died on the cross for our sins", "love they God and love thy neighbor as thyself", the ten commandments. Almost everything else is debated within the early churches.

Given that God is ultimately powerful, isn't it possible that those differences are by design, because God made us to be different and therefore opens up differences to us each. It is only by considering others that we truly grow. Not by simply listening to those who only think as we do.

As for Obama... I leave that between him, his family and God. He is my president, not my Pastor. I think some of you may be confused about that point, but I am not.
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Re: What is Obama's Faith? Bill Maher "Doesn't Know"

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:06 pm

Woodruff wrote:
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Yeah, me too. I just can't figure out how a dude with a Muslim name gets mistaken for a Muslim. It's a total quandary.


So does that mean everyone in Mexico named Jesus is from the Middle East?


Is Mexico a religion?


Do you try as hard as you can to avoid every point because you know that you have no valid response to it, or does it just seem to happen naturally?


Your analogies still need to make sense. we can't continue anyways until you fix it.

A Muslim being assumed a Muslim because he has a Muslim name is not the same as everyone in Mexico named Jesus being from the Middle East.
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Re: What is Obama's Faith? Bill Maher "Doesn't Know"

Postby Aradhus on Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:14 pm

PLAYER57832 wrote:Here's a question: Why does Obama's "true" religion even matter. This is not a theocracy!



If he's not a Christian he is dishonest. If he is a Christian, he's naive.

Most likely he values the principles and message presented in the christ myth, but he doesn't believe any of the theological mystical fertilizer.
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Re: What is Obama's Faith? Bill Maher "Doesn't Know"

Postby PLAYER57832 on Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:10 pm

Aradhus wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:Here's a question: Why does Obama's "true" religion even matter. This is not a theocracy!



If he's not a Christian he is dishonest. If he is a Christian, he's naive.

Most likely he values the principles and message presented in the christ myth, but he doesn't believe any of the theological mystical fertilizer.

Most likely he is a politician doing his job.
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Re: What is Obama's Faith? Bill Maher "Doesn't Know"

Postby patsfan12 on Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:35 pm

he is Muslim. NASA, a past great organization, has a job to reach out to the Muslims in the middle east to get in space.


OMG, this would be such a great tv show cause the Muslims would sabotage there own rockets in the name of Allah. lol
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Re: What is Obama's Faith? Bill Maher "Doesn't Know"

Postby Woodruff on Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:54 am

Phatscotty wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Fischer08 wrote:Yeah, me too. I just can't figure out how a dude with a Muslim name gets mistaken for a Muslim. It's a total quandary.


So does that mean everyone in Mexico named Jesus is from the Middle East?


Is Mexico a religion?


Do you try as hard as you can to avoid every point because you know that you have no valid response to it, or does it just seem to happen naturally?


Your analogies still need to make sense. we can't continue anyways until you fix it.

A Muslim being assumed a Muslim because he has a Muslim name is not the same as everyone in Mexico named Jesus being from the Middle East.


So it happens naturally, then?
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Re: What is Obama's Faith? Bill Maher "Doesn't Know"

Postby PLAYER57832 on Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:23 am

Woodruff wrote: A Muslim being assumed a Muslim because he has a Muslim name is not the same as everyone in Mexico named Jesus being from the Middle East.


Obama has a Muslim name because his father was (or at least part of his family was ) Muslim. Obama, however, was raised by his mother, who is a Christian and while he attended inter-faith schools as a child and has a greater understanding of Islam than many in the US, he is not and never has been Muslim.

Beyond that, since when does a leaders personal faith matter in the US. We are not a theocracy!
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Re: What is Obama's Faith? Bill Maher "Doesn't Know"

Postby PLAYER57832 on Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:27 am

Aradhus wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:Here's a question: Why does Obama's "true" religion even matter. This is not a theocracy!



If he's not a Christian he is dishonest. If he is a Christian, he's naive. .

I see, so if he does not follow YOUR IDEAS about Christianity, then he is either "naive" or "dishonest"?

I did not realize that God appointed you as the ultimate interpreter of the Bible. :shock:
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Re: What is Obama's Faith? Bill Maher "Doesn't Know"

Postby MeDeFe on Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:28 am

Phatscotty wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Fischer08 wrote:Yeah, me too. I just can't figure out how a dude with a Muslim name gets mistaken for a Muslim. It's a total quandary.

So does that mean everyone in Mexico named Jesus is from the Middle East?

Is Mexico a religion?

Do you try as hard as you can to avoid every point because you know that you have no valid response to it, or does it just seem to happen naturally?

Your analogies still need to make sense. we can't continue anyways until you fix it.

A Muslim being assumed a Muslim because he has a Muslim name is not the same as everyone in Mexico named Jesus being from the Middle East.

So... can we assume that every person named "David" is jewish?
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Re: What is Obama's Faith? Bill Maher "Doesn't Know"

Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:37 am

PLAYER57832 wrote:
Aradhus wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:Here's a question: Why does Obama's "true" religion even matter. This is not a theocracy!



If he's not a Christian he is dishonest. If he is a Christian, he's naive. .

I see, so if he does not follow YOUR IDEAS about Christianity, then he is either "naive" or "dishonest"?

I did not realize that God appointed you as the ultimate interpreter of the Bible. :shock:

I think it's somewhere in the back chapters of the book.


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Re: What is Obama's Faith? Bill Maher "Doesn't Know"

Postby Aradhus on Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:27 pm

PLAYER57832 wrote:
Aradhus wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:Here's a question: Why does Obama's "true" religion even matter. This is not a theocracy!



If he's not a Christian he is dishonest. If he is a Christian, he's naive. .

I see, so if he does not follow YOUR IDEAS about Christianity, then he is either "naive" or "dishonest"?


You don't see very well.
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Re: What is Obama's Faith? Bill Maher "Doesn't Know"

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:07 pm

MeDeFe wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Woodruff wrote:So does that mean everyone in Mexico named Jesus is from the Middle East?

Is Mexico a religion?

Do you try as hard as you can to avoid every point because you know that you have no valid response to it, or does it just seem to happen naturally?

Your analogies still need to make sense. we can't continue anyways until you fix it.

A Muslim being assumed a Muslim because he has a Muslim name is not the same as everyone in Mexico named Jesus being from the Middle East.

So... can we assume that every person named "David" is jewish?


you can assume David is not a Muslim tho! Which actually pertains to my point more because it shows there is a cultural link with Islam and Muslim names, far more than say Christianity or Judaism.
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Re: What is Obama's Faith?

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:43 pm

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=1016&sid=19568271

Public Policy Polling, a Democratic firm, asked Republicans in Alabama and Mississippi which presidential candidate they favor, ahead of today's primaries in those states. Pollsters also asked, "Do you think Barack Obama is a Christian or a Muslim, or are you not sure?"

In Alabama, 14 percent said Christian; 45 percent said Muslim and 41 percent said they're not sure. Among Mississippi Republicans, 12 percent said Christian, 52 percent said Muslim, and 36 percent weren't sure.

The phone poll was conducted among 1,256 likely GOP voters in Mississippi and Alabama on March 10-11.


Yes, people are still making polls in 2012 asking what Obama's faith is...
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Re: What is Obama's Faith?

Postby Baron Von PWN on Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:21 pm

Phatscotty wrote:http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=1016&sid=19568271

Public Policy Polling, a Democratic firm, asked Republicans in Alabama and Mississippi which presidential candidate they favor, ahead of today's primaries in those states. Pollsters also asked, "Do you think Barack Obama is a Christian or a Muslim, or are you not sure?"

In Alabama, 14 percent said Christian; 45 percent said Muslim and 41 percent said they're not sure. Among Mississippi Republicans, 12 percent said Christian, 52 percent said Muslim, and 36 percent weren't sure.

The phone poll was conducted among 1,256 likely GOP voters in Mississippi and Alabama on March 10-11.


Yes, people are still making polls in 2012 asking what Obama's faith is...



So Alabama republicans are still ignorant?
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Re: What is Obama's Faith?

Postby Aradhus on Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:50 pm

I had some doubts before, but the evidence is there, I'm afraid. With some certainty I declare that Obama IS a christian.

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Re: What is Obama's Faith?

Postby Timminz on Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:52 am

Baron Von PWN wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=1016&sid=19568271

Public Policy Polling, a Democratic firm, asked Republicans in Alabama and Mississippi which presidential candidate they favor, ahead of today's primaries in those states. Pollsters also asked, "Do you think Barack Obama is a Christian or a Muslim, or are you not sure?"

In Alabama, 14 percent said Christian; 45 percent said Muslim and 41 percent said they're not sure. Among Mississippi Republicans, 12 percent said Christian, 52 percent said Muslim, and 36 percent weren't sure.

The phone poll was conducted among 1,256 likely GOP voters in Mississippi and Alabama on March 10-11.

Yes, people are still making polls in 2012 asking what Obama's faith is...

So Alabama republicans are still ignorant?


Don't forget Mississippi. It seems the Republicans there are even more ignorant.
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Re: What is Obama's Faith? Bill Maher "Doesn't Know"

Postby The Bison King on Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:56 am

Phatscotty wrote:you can assume David is not a Muslim tho! Which actually pertains to my point more because it shows there is a cultural link with Islam and Muslim names, far more than say Christianity or Judaism.

Uhhh, no you can't assume that. Plenty of people convert to Islam, in fact last time I checked it's the fastest growing religion.
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Re: What is Obama's Faith? Bill Maher "Doesn't Know"

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:39 pm

The Bison King wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:you can assume David is not a Muslim tho! Which actually pertains to my point more because it shows there is a cultural link with Islam and Muslim names, far more than say Christianity or Judaism.

Uhhh, no you can't assume that. Plenty of people convert to Islam, in fact last time I checked it's the fastest growing religion.


also, plenty of people change their name when they convert religion.

Obama didn't. He went from Barack to Barry back to Barack Hussein
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Re: What is Obama's Faith? Bill Maher "Doesn't Know"

Postby jonesthecurl on Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:02 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:]
Phatscotty wrote:
Woodruff wrote:So does that mean everyone in Mexico named Jesus is from the Middle East?

Is Mexico a religion?

Your analogies still need to make sense. we can't continue anyways until you fix it.

A Muslim being assumed a Muslim because he has a Muslim name is not the same as everyone in Mexico named Jesus being from the Middle East.

So... can we assume that every person named "David" is jewish?


you can assume David is not a Muslim tho! Which actually pertains to my point more because it shows there is a cultural link with Islam and Muslim names, far more than say Christianity or Judaism.


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Re: What is Obama's Faith?

Postby Lootifer on Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:26 pm

WTF is this shit?
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Re: What is Obama's Faith? Bill Maher "Doesn't Know"

Postby Baron Von PWN on Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:38 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
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Phatscotty wrote:you can assume David is not a Muslim tho! Which actually pertains to my point more because it shows there is a cultural link with Islam and Muslim names, far more than say Christianity or Judaism.

Uhhh, no you can't assume that. Plenty of people convert to Islam, in fact last time I checked it's the fastest growing religion.


also, plenty of people change their name when they convert religion.

Obama didn't. He went from Barack to Barry back to Barack Hussein


Thus exposing his secret islamism! great detective work there scotty!
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Re: What is Obama's Faith?

Postby Aradhus on Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:58 am

Lootifer wrote:WTF is this shit?


Pretty much the status quo around these parts.
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Re: What is Obama's Faith?

Postby Borderdawg on Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:45 am

Who really gives a shit what farcical religion he follows? bible, quran, torah, all works of historical fiction.

But, for those of you who just aren't comfortable without the security blanket effect of organized religion, may I suggest The Church of the Latter Day Dude. If I was to join a religion, I do believe I'd have to be a Dudeist!

http://dudeism.com/whatisdudeism/
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Re: What is Obama's Faith?

Postby Baron Von PWN on Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:00 am

Borderdawg wrote:Who really gives a shit what farcical religion he follows? bible, quran, torah, all works of historical fiction.

But, for those of you who just aren't comfortable without the security blanket effect of organized religion, may I suggest The Church of the Latter Day Dude. If I was to join a religion, I do believe I'd have to be a Dudeist!

http://dudeism.com/whatisdudeism/


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Re: What is Obama's Faith?

Postby Phatscotty on Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:12 pm

Borderdawg wrote:Who really gives a shit what farcical religion he follows? bible, quran, torah, all works of historical fiction.

But, for those of you who just aren't comfortable without the security blanket effect of organized religion, may I suggest The Church of the Latter Day Dude. If I was to join a religion, I do believe I'd have to be a Dudeist!

http://dudeism.com/whatisdudeism/


It's not so much about what religion he is, it's more about telling the character of someone who will publicly fake their faith and lie about it...
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