Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [Quenched]

[isaiah40]

Checked the large myself, everything looks good except Yaounde. You have it with the accent over the 'e' in the xml but not on the map. Lourenco Marques, in the xml you have the thingy under the 'c' but not on the map. I'll check the small later.

Also the troop numbers on Cairo and Luxor, can you move them to the left so they are not overlapping the Nile River.

[The Bison King]

Checked the large myself, everything looks good except Yaounde. You have it with the accent over the 'e' in the xml but not on the map. Lourenco Marques, in the xml you have the thingy under the 'c' but not on the map. I'll check the small later.

I don't know what those marks mean or how they're supposed to sound. I'm ok with removing them from the XML, but if they are important I can always re-insert them into the map.

Also the troop numbers on Cairo and Luxor, can you move them to the left so they are not overlapping the Nile River.

No, that was done intentionally to make it clear that the river was not an impasse for Egyptian territories.

[isaiah40]

I don't know what those marks mean or how they're supposed to sound. I'm ok with removing them from the XML, but if they are important I can always re-insert them into the map.

I'm fine with what ever way you want to do it.

No, that was done intentionally to make it clear that the river was not an impasse for Egyptian territories.

Well you do have the territory names going across the Nile, so that shouldn't be a problem. You can place army circles there so that the numbers are not hard to see. You know people will complain about it, so let's fix it now. Do it one way or the other, we just need to make sure the numbers are easy to see.

Once these couple of things are done I'll get this stamped for you.

Edit: Checked the small, same issue with Cairo and Luxor. Everything else looks good, and unless I missed something, once you fixed these minor problems You'll get the stamp!!

[The Bison King]

I don't know what those marks mean or how they're supposed to sound. I'm ok with removing them from the XML, but if they are important I can always re-insert them into the map.

I'm fine with what ever way you want to do it.

I'll just add the accents back in.

No, that was done intentionally to make it clear that the river was not an impasse for Egyptian territories.

Well you do have the territory names going across the Nile, so that shouldn't be a problem. You can place army circles there so that the numbers are not hard to see. You know people will complain about it, so let's fix it now. Do it one way or the other, we just need to make sure the numbers are easy to see.

Once these couple of things are done I'll get this stamped for you.

Edit: Checked the small, same issue with Cairo and Luxor. Everything else looks good, and unless I missed something, once you fixed these minor problems You'll get the stamp!!

Well, I'm not so sure people will complain about it. One of the complaints I've heard about Africa 2 is that some of the territories with rivers running through them are a little confusing. I think putting the numbers and name on the river is a way of making it as clear as possible that the river does not effect these regions. Now the clarity thing I totally understand, however I hate army circles. I used one on Celtic Nations and I kind of wished I hadn't. Instead I tried cutting the river away where the numbers will go. This way the numbers can sit across the river clearly. You can view this below. I hope this solution is satisfactory, if not we can figure something else out.

[bigimg]http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/5673/darkcontinentupload.jpg[/bigimg]
[bigimg]http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/954/darkcontinentuploadsmal.jpg[/bigimg]

[bigimg]http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/7144/picture28wf.png[/bigimg]
[bigimg]http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/6143/picture29qy.png[/bigimg]

[koontz1973]

From those images Bison, a suggestion would be to have one cut away only for the name and numbers. Just move the numbers nearer the name a tad and that should look better. As it is now, the river - name - river - number - river looks a little odd.

Also, on the small, the number for Luxor could do with moving down a couple of pixels. It looks like it is sitting on the territ line.

[The Bison King]

From those images Bison, a suggestion would be to have one cut away only for the name and numbers. Just move the numbers nearer the name a tad and that should look better. As it is now, the river - name - river - number - river looks a little odd.

Also, on the small, the number for Luxor could do with moving down a couple of pixels. It looks like it is sitting on the territ line.

This seems logical.

[ender516]

TBK, if you update the cuts, I can shift the positions in the XML.

[The Bison King]

TBK, if you update the cuts, I can shift the positions in the XML.

Done and done!
[bigimg]http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/5673/darkcontinentupload.jpg[/bigimg]
[bigimg]http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/954/darkcontinentuploadsmal.jpg[/bigimg]

[iancanton]

is there any way u can make the river more squiggly between cairo and luxor? it looks a bit like a road at the moment, while the upper nile really does look like a river.

a few adjustments to names: great britain was great britain & ireland by this time (compare with austria-hungary); cape region was cape province; south namibia was namaqualand; kavango was ovambo or ovamboland (the ovambo people are about 50% of namibia's population); namibia was südwest-afrika; botswana was bechuana or bechuanaland; yaoundé was jaunde; south africa ought to be southern africa; french sahara was known as french west africa.

ian.

[The Bison King]

is there any way u can make the river more squiggly between cairo and luxor? it looks a bit like a road at the moment, while the upper nile really does look like a river.

No, I think it's fine.

a few adjustments to names: great britain was great britain & ireland by this time (compare with austria-hungary); cape region was cape province; south namibia was namaqualand; kavango was ovambo or ovamboland (the ovambo people are about 50% of namibia's population); namibia was südwest-afrika; botswana was bechuana or bechuanaland; yaoundé was jaunde; south africa ought to be southern africa; french sahara was known as french west africa.

ian.

Again I think the name should be fine the way they are. I'm sure that you could make 100 different arguments for 100 different names for each territory on this map. Most all of the names currently in use came directly from IH and I trust his expertise on the subject. I've double checked most all of them and I didn't find anything that was terribly out of sync with the time period and theme.

[ender516]

Yes, I think we have been around the post on the name issues already.

[ender516]

Here is the latest XML (it took a few tries to get Cairo just right):

http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/11/9/2644838/Colonial_Africa/Colonial_Africa_2.7.xml

and here are some test images:

[bigimg]http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/11/9/2644838/Colonial_Africa_2.7_large_test_image.png[/bigimg]
[bigimg]http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/11/9/2644838/Colonial_Africa_2.7_small_test_image.png[/bigimg]

So are we stamp-ready at last?

[isaiah40]

Concerning the names, I think that it can be left to the mapmaker decision. So without further ado, we can get this stamped!!

[The Bison King]

Concerning the names, I think that it can be left to the mapmaker decision. So without further ado, we can get this stamped!!

Hooray! Beta here we come!

[AndyDufresne]

This is a terrific looking and polished map. Great work TBK, Ender, and everyone else.


--Andy

[The Bison King]

Thank you. I'm really excited about this one. I think this will be my best one yet! Can't wait to get this into Beta.

[iancanton]

congrats, tbk!

ian.

[The Bison King]

Thanks, I know there's a lot of maps in Beta right now, but I hope it's soon.

[thenobodies80]

Beta - Quenching

---The Final Forge period has concluded for the Dark Continent Map. All objections have had their time. The Foundry and I hereby brand this map with the Foundry Beta Brand. Let it be known that this map is now ready for BETA Play. After an extended period of time in BETA and once all quirks and issues have been resolved, the map will be put into Full Play (barring any Lack vetoes).

Conquer Club, enjoy!

While the map is in BETA Play, there are a couple of administrative tasks that are required of the mapmaker(s) in addition to the initial gameplay testing:

1. Please ensure that the first post of the thread contains all the necessary information to help future visitors to the development thread; it's particularly important to ensure the most recent images are there, along with any helpful guides (such as gameplay quirks/nuances or the location/size of any starting neutrals etc.)
2. Finally, it is the responsibility of the mapmaker(s) to ensure that they respond to further feedback in a timely and constructive manner.

thenobodies80

[The Bison King]

HEY HEY HEY!!!!

Now that's some good news!

[cairnswk]

congrats TBK

[ender516]

Three cheers! I can't wait for this to go live.

[AndyDufresne]

Many congrats.


--Andy

[VicFontaine]

Having played 2 games already, I can only think of one thing you really should alter:

Change the border between Austo-Hungary and Italy by a couple milli-meters to ENSURE, BEYOND ANY SHADOW of a doubt, that no one gets the two confused. As currently stands, the Italian flag bleeds into Austro-Hungary.

It's such a minor fix for such major benefits, I suggest doing it. Should only take a second, right?

Really like the map: you should be proud.

[y2manypbr]

Nice map!! i am color blind and review new maps and provide suggestions. there are different types of color blind problems so I do not speak as a final word. That being said, i like the legend, the map is easy to see, borders easy to identify, this map-from the point of color blind problems would be great to play.
Other than that, nice looking map, looks like fun!