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[Woodruff]

Ladies and Gentlemen, I have just recieved a message which has brought me back to my senses:

The Sym and Wood don't ever get it wrong, don't ya know?

Sym is especially bad, trying to deal with him is like dealing with a spoiled brat of a child who was never told "no" or taught right from wrong.

Wood isn't as bad I admit, but he is also of the "I know what I know and what I don't know doesn't matter" type.

For moral relativists perception is everything. And their's are far more limited than they'd even be able to begin to comprehend.

And Sym, who believes in the greatness of the Old Country while ignoring that it is falling apart all around him. The "enlightened" Europeans still haven't grasped that there is a cost associated with social engineering and they ain't got the money to fund it. Reality will be a cold mistress to them.

Remember that when you find yourself arguing with an ideologue, they will reap what they sow in the end.

As will we American's in our own due time I suppose, if we continue trying to emulate the Europeans or codify wishful thinking.

Best of luck!
Peace

It's for these very reasons that I've been trying to abstain from these forums. From time to time I feel compelled to post, not for the aforementioned fools, but rather for those viewing for which there may still be hope.

That said, I'm only one man and I am tired.

Good night.

Yeah, I didn't think you could defend the undefendable either. But at least those in the Republican hivemind agree with you, so there's that.

[Symmetry]

Ladies and Gentlemen, I have just recieved a message which has brought me back to my senses:

The Sym and Wood don't ever get it wrong, don't ya know?

Sym is especially bad, trying to deal with him is like dealing with a spoiled brat of a child who was never told "no" or taught right from wrong.

Wood isn't as bad I admit, but he is also of the "I know what I know and what I don't know doesn't matter" type.

For moral relativists perception is everything. And their's are far more limited than they'd even be able to begin to comprehend.

And Sym, who believes in the greatness of the Old Country while ignoring that it is falling apart all around him. The "enlightened" Europeans still haven't grasped that there is a cost associated with social engineering and they ain't got the money to fund it. Reality will be a cold mistress to them.

Remember that when you find yourself arguing with an ideologue, they will reap what they sow in the end.

As will we American's in our own due time I suppose, if we continue trying to emulate the Europeans or codify wishful thinking.

Best of luck!
Peace

It's for these very reasons that I've been trying to abstain from these forums. From time to time I feel compelled to post, not for the aforementioned fools, but rather for those viewing for which there may still be hope.

That said, I'm only one man and I am tired.

Good night.

Oh dear, how sad.

[Woodruff]

I just think it's silly that you think the relationship is anything but one-way. I guess like a parasite, they may provide SOMETHING in return...not much.

Wow. A backhanded way of calling Israel (and in effect, Jews) parasites. Oh, excuse me, worse than parasites. Stay classy Woodruff!

I have no problem at all saying that the nation of Israel's relationship with the nation of the United States is parasitical. That does not, in any way, correlate any kind of relationship to individuals living in Israel. Which you know, of course. Stay classy, patches (and you wonder why I've started to think of you like I do Phatscotty and Night Strike...).

If you say so, sir. I've never seen such antisemitism from you before.

It isn't anti-Semitism. Do you understand what anti-Semitism is? Because that is absolutely NOT anti-Semitism. Here, I'll give you a definition, so it's easy for you:

The belief or behavior hostile toward Jews just because they are Jewish. It may take the form of religious teachings that proclaim the inferiority of Jews, for instance. It may also include prejudiced or stereotyped views about Jews.

You see..."saying bad things about Israel" is not anti-Semitism, necessarily.

Calling Israel a parasite of the US is the exact same expression used on virtually all hate group sites, literature, speeches and views.
At the next KKK or neo nazi rally, look for placards calling Israel a parasite. You'll find 'em and you are spouting the exact same rhetoric. They believe it to be true, as it seems so you do as well.

Would you like me to point out where those same groups are using Christianity, or would you like to discuss the issue rationally?

[patches70]

You did call Israel a parasite, did you not?

Simple yes or no question.

Don't try to spin it, you've been quoted. You actually called Israel worse than a parasite.

Would you like me to point out where those same groups are using Christianity

And that makes it ok to call Israel a parasite?

or would you like to discuss the issue rationally?

Discuss what? If Israel is a parasite or not? No thanks, I have much better sense than that, and frankly I'd think you would as well.

I mean what are you thinking? When I saw your post calling the Jewish nation of Israel a parasite, this was my immediate thought-



A double facepalm, because one facepalm isn't enough. Of course you'll try to spin it, but just answer,

Did you, or did you not, call the nation of Israel, A Parasite?

I mean c'mon man! If you disagree with the relationship between Israel and the US, I would think you could find a better way of expressing it than "Israel is worse than a parasite". Seriously.

[Symmetry]

You did call Israel a parasite, did you not?

Simple yes or no question.

Don't try to spin it, you've been quoted. You actually called Israel worse than a parasite.

Would you like me to point out where those same groups are using Christianity

And that makes it ok to call Israel a parasite?

or would you like to discuss the issue rationally?

Discuss what? If Israel is a parasite or not? No thanks, I have much better sense than that, and frankly I'd think you would as well.

I mean what are you thinking? When I saw your post calling the Jewish nation of Israel a parasite, this was my immediate thought-



A double facepalm, because one facepalm isn't enough. Of course you'll try to spin it, but just answer,

Did you, or did you not, call the nation of Israel, A Parasite?

I mean c'mon man! If you disagree with the relationship between Israel and the US, I would think you could find a better way of expressing it than "Israel is worse than a parasite". Seriously.

Lazy stuff Patches, you want to say that he's anti-semitic, and he clearly isn't. I think you've been around here long enough to know Woody pretty well. He's not a guy who minces his words, but he ain't a bigot, and he's not one to play yes or no games.

[patches70]

Lazy stuff Patches, you want to say that he's anti-semitic, and he clearly isn't. I think you've been around here long enough to know Woody pretty well. He's not a guy who minces his words, but he ain't a bigot, and he's not one to play yes or no games.

You should look at the old nazi propaganda posters saying that Jews were not human, that they were nothing more than parasites on the world. That's antisemitic without a doubt. And here today is Woodruff using the exact same words to describe Israel.

I would hope Woodruff isn't antisemitic, but how the hell could I know or not? How could you? He called Israel a parasite. There is no ambiguity in his typed words.

So why don't you let the man answer for himself. Maybe he can explain in detail exactly why he thinks Israel is a parasite. Maybe he'll do the right thing and apologize for putting it like he did. That he didn't mean it like it sounded. Which, I hope, is the case.
Regardless, is was a horrible choice of words and I hope that even you could see that. Maybe not, maybe you believe the same thing. I don't know, all I know is he called Israel what he called them. Same damn thing the nazis called the Jews and used that thinking to justify murdering millions.

[Symmetry]

Lazy stuff Patches, you want to say that he's anti-semitic, and he clearly isn't. I think you've been around here long enough to know Woody pretty well. He's not a guy who minces his words, but he ain't a bigot, and he's not one to play yes or no games.

You should look at the old nazi propaganda posters saying that Jews were not human, that they were nothing more than parasites on the world. That's antisemitic without a doubt. And here today is Woodruff using the exact same words to describe Israel.

I would hope Woodruff isn't antisemitic, but how the hell could I know or not? How could you? He called Israel a parasite. There is no ambiguity in his typed words.

So why don't you let the man answer for himself. Maybe he can explain in detail exactly why he thinks Israel is a parasite. Maybe he'll do the right thing and apologize for putting it like he did. That he didn't mean it like it sounded. Which, I hope, is the case.
Regardless, is was a horrible choice of words and I hope that even you could see that. Maybe not, maybe you believe the same thing. I don't know, all I know is he called Israel what he called them. Same damn thing the nazis called the Jews and used that thinking to justify murdering millions.

Meh, if you think that Woody has a problem defending himself, you've not been around here long enough. He has no need for me to stand up for him. If he replies, he won't mince words.

Now, I can see that you're starting to de-escalate this. I can happily say it was a poor choice of words, but suggesting that it was a deliberately anti-Semitic choice of words is pretty clearly wrong.

I don't think Woody is an anti-Semite, and I actually don't think that you believe he is either. I think you're looking for an apology, and you've dug yourself in to a hole that you could easily get out of by simply saying that you pushed a bit too far, and admitting that while you didn't like the way he phrased his point, you don't think he's an anti-semite, let alone on the level of Nazi Germany.

[patches70]

I can happily say it was a poor choice of words,

Well, then, why don't you explain exactly why it was a poor choice of words then, since you believe it was a poor choice of words.
Could it be because such words could be construed as antisemitic?

but suggesting that it was a deliberately anti-Semitic choice of words is pretty clearly wrong.

I just asked him why he called Israel worse than a parasite.

I don't think Woody is an anti-Semite,

Good for you, then I wonder why you don't say "Woodruff? WTF man? Why did you say that?"

and I actually don't think that you believe he is either.

Oh, you know what I think now do you?

I have no idea if Woodruff is or not. I've never seen him use such language before. So this is quite surprising to me true enough. There is no way I can know one way or another. I do know that what he said is beyond inappropriate and borderline (at best!) bigoted, racist and just plain a terrible thing to say.

I think you're looking for an apology,

I'm only wondering what the hell he was thinking when he said what he said. I don't care if he apologizes or not. He should, to be decent. But that's up to him.

you've dug yourself in to a hole

I've dug myself into a hole?

that you could easily get out of

Get out of what? Confronting someone on what could easily be construed as an antisemitic statement?

saying that you pushed a bit too far,

Oh, someone went too far, and it wasn't me. I didn't say that nonsense about Israel.

that while you didn't like the way he phrased his point, you don't think he's an anti-semite, let alone on the level of Nazi Germany.

Lordy, I would hope he's not. And I'm sincere on that. It's obvious that Woodruff has some deep rooted angst (to say the least) in regards to Israel. He's obviously not a fan. And that's fine. But when it comes to calling a the nation of Israel worse than a parasite, that's pretty extreme.

[Symmetry]

I can happily say it was a poor choice of words,

Well, then, why don't you explain exactly why it was a poor choice of words then, since you believe it was a poor choice of words.
Could it be because such words could be construed as antisemitic?

but suggesting that it was a deliberately anti-Semitic choice of words is pretty clearly wrong.

I just asked him why he called Israel worse than a parasite.

I don't think Woody is an anti-Semite,

Good for you, then I wonder why you don't say "Woodruff? WTF man? Why did you say that?"

and I actually don't think that you believe he is either.

Oh, you know what I think now do you?

I have no idea if Woodruff is or not. I've never seen him use such language before. So this is quite surprising to me true enough. There is no way I can know one way or another. I do know that what he said is beyond inappropriate and borderline (at best!) bigoted, racist and just plain a terrible thing to say.

I think you're looking for an apology,

I'm only wondering what the hell he was thinking when he said what he said. I don't care if he apologizes or not. He should, to be decent. But that's up to him.

you've dug yourself in to a hole

I've dug myself into a hole?

that you could easily get out of

Get out of what? Confronting someone on what could easily be construed as an antisemitic statement?

saying that you pushed a bit too far,

Oh, someone went too far, and it wasn't me. I didn't say that nonsense about Israel.

that while you didn't like the way he phrased his point, you don't think he's an anti-semite, let alone on the level of Nazi Germany.

Lordy, I would hope he's not. And I'm sincere on that. It's obvious that Woodruff has some deep rooted angst (to say the least) in regards to Israel. He's obviously not a fan. And that's fine. But when it comes to calling a the nation of Israel worse than a parasite, that's pretty extreme.

Baiting much, Patches? Criticism of Israeli governmental foreign policy isn't anti-semitic. You're equating the two.

[Woodruff]

You did call Israel a parasite, did you not?

Simple yes or no question.
Don't try to spin it, you've been quoted. You actually called Israel worse than a parasite. [/quote]

Spin it? I have nothing to spin. I'm not a religious nutjob like you seem to have become, so I try to actually stand by what I say. You seem to be having trouble in doing that.

I clearly stated that the relationship between Israel and the United States is parasitical.

Would you like me to point out where those same groups are using Christianity

And that makes it ok to call Israel a parasite?

Do you commonly have this difficulty in following a conversation?

or would you like to discuss the issue rationally?

Discuss what? If Israel is a parasite or not? No thanks, I have much better sense than that, and frankly I'd think you would as well.
I mean what are you thinking? When I saw your post calling the Jewish nation of Israel a parasite, this was my immediate thought-

So you still don't understand what the term anti-Semetic means?

I mean c'mon man! If you disagree with the relationship between Israel and the US, I would think you could find a better way of expressing it than "Israel is worse than a parasite". Seriously.

It is an accurate representation. Seriously.

[Woodruff]

Lazy stuff Patches, you want to say that he's anti-semitic, and he clearly isn't. I think you've been around here long enough to know Woody pretty well. He's not a guy who minces his words, but he ain't a bigot, and he's not one to play yes or no games.

You should look at the old nazi propaganda posters saying that Jews were not human, that they were nothing more than parasites on the world. That's antisemitic without a doubt. And here today is Woodruff using the exact same words to describe Israel.

So the definition of "anti-Semetic" isn't good enough for you, you have to make up your own definition of it?

I would hope Woodruff isn't antisemitic, but how the hell could I know or not? How could you? He called Israel a parasite. There is no ambiguity in his typed words.

No, there is no ambiguity...it clearly is not anti-Semetic.

So why don't you let the man answer for himself. Maybe he can explain in detail exactly why he thinks Israel is a parasite. Maybe he'll do the right thing and apologize for putting it like he did.

Why would that be the right thing? See, it's this nutjob defend-Israel-at-all-costs crap that is ridiculous among the religious right.

[Woodruff]

but suggesting that it was a deliberately anti-Semitic choice of words is pretty clearly wrong.

I just asked him why he called Israel worse than a parasite.

I didn't call them worse than a parasite. So you've stooped to lying now? How typical of the "religious right". You can get off your high horse now, liar.

I don't think Woody is an anti-Semite,

Good for you, then I wonder why you don't say "Woodruff? WTF man? Why did you say that?"

Perhaps he, unlike you, understands the definition of "anti-Semetism".

and I actually don't think that you believe he is either.

Oh, you know what I think now do you?
I have no idea if Woodruff is or not. I've never seen him use such language before. So this is quite surprising to me true enough. There is no way I can know one way or another. I do know that what he said is beyond inappropriate and borderline (at best!) bigoted, racist and just plain a terrible thing to say.

It isn't bigoted nor racist. I am speaking of actions at the governmental level. Good Lord. I really don't understand why you're trying to blow this so out of proportion.

I think you're looking for an apology,

I'm only wondering what the hell he was thinking when he said what he said. I don't care if he apologizes or not. He should, to be decent. But that's up to him.

What I was thinking was exactly what I said...the relationship between Israel and the United States is parasitical.

you've dug yourself in to a hole

I've dug myself into a hole?

Well, you don't seem to want to admit to what the definition of "anti-Semetism" is, for starters.

that you could easily get out of

Get out of what? Confronting someone on what could easily be construed as an antisemitic statement?

It's really only construed that way by someone who is either ignorant of the definition or doesn't care what the definition is because they see a fight they want.

saying that you pushed a bit too far,

Oh, someone went too far, and it wasn't me. I didn't say that nonsense about Israel.

Yes, heaven forbid someone say something bad about Israel!

that while you didn't like the way he phrased his point, you don't think he's an anti-semite, let alone on the level of Nazi Germany.

Lordy, I would hope he's not. And I'm sincere on that. It's obvious that Woodruff has some deep rooted angst (to say the least) in regards to Israel. He's obviously not a fan. And that's fine. But when it comes to calling a the nation of Israel worse than a parasite, that's pretty extreme.

Actually, I am a fan. I consider their military to be the greatest military in the world, pound for pound. I FREAKING LOVE their actual security in their Airports (unlike ours). I love how they have been historically so strong of a people. However, I do not have much regard at all for their current (or fairly recent) governments, either in how they treat us, how they treat their own citizens, and how they treat their neighbors. I'm pretty much a fan of everything but their government. Much like my current view of the United States, actually. Does that make me bigoted against Americans too?

[Gillipig]

Do the repulicans only have nutjobs? He's a MORMON ffs! That almost ought to auto disqualifie him. The stuff he believes in.....Insane.

[Woodruff]

Do the repulicans only have nutjobs?

Oh heavens no. If only...

[patches70]

show

I see you dodge kinged your way out of a simple question. Let me remind you of it-

I can happily say it was a poor choice of words,

Why don't you explain to Woodruff exactly why it was a poor choice of words?

[patches70]

What I was thinking was exactly what I said...the relationship between Israel and the United States is parasitical.

The problem with using the term "parasitical" is that you are calling Israel a parasite. What does one do with a parasite?

There is only one thing that can be done with a parasite, it must be killed.

If Israel is a parasite, then what must the US do about it, in your view? A parasite has no choice but to be parasitical, and if Israel is a parasite then it must be so with the US and if not her then someone else. What do you do with a tick that is crawling on you? Release it back to the yard to crawl back on you?

That type of rhetoric is unproductive at best. Conjure up images of rallies where protesters are out there calling those who are on welfare or unemployment "parasites of society!"

They are human beings, man. Equating human beings to parasites is pretty poor form and is a view held by extremists. One should refrain from such, as it merely is a way to turn an opponent into something less than human. A trend all too common in this day an age, turning people into blood sucking, life devouring evil entities that are no better than a tapeworm.

As I said before, stay classy Woodruff. Keep equating nations and peoples to parasites. When the time comes to actually deal with such problems those sentiments will be of great use in deciding exactly what to do about said problem.....

[Timminz]

"Israel's relationship with the US is parasitic" : Antisemitism :: "China's relationship with Taiwan is overbearing" : believing all Chinese people to be tyrants

[Gillipig]

What I was thinking was exactly what I said...the relationship between Israel and the United States is parasitical.

The problem with using the term "parasitical" is that you are calling Israel a parasite. What does one do with a parasite?

There is only one thing that can be done with a parasite, it must be killed.

If Israel is a parasite, then what must the US do about it, in your view? A parasite has no choice but to be parasitical, and if Israel is a parasite then it must be so with the US and if not her then someone else. What do you do with a tick that is crawling on you? Release it back to the yard to crawl back on you?

That type of rhetoric is unproductive at best. Conjure up images of rallies where protesters are out there calling those who are on welfare or unemployment "parasites of society!"

They are human beings, man. Equating human beings to parasites is pretty poor form and is a view held by extremists. One should refrain from such, as it merely is a way to turn an opponent into something less than human. A trend all too common in this day an age, turning people into blood sucking, life devouring evil entities that are no better than a tapeworm.

As I said before, stay classy Woodruff. Keep equating nations and peoples to parasites. When the time comes to actually deal with such problems those sentiments will be of great use in deciding exactly what to do about said problem.....

Don't be so sensitive. If I said Colombia is parasitical of USA would you call me prejudice or racist? Probably not. You don't make distinctions between a country and a race. Israel is not a race, it's a country. Saying a country is a parasite, does not automatically mean that the race living there are parasites. Just that their culture, politicians and so forth are acting like parasites.

[bedub1]

What I was thinking was exactly what I said...the relationship between Israel and the United States is parasitical.

The problem with using the term "parasitical" is that you are calling Israel a parasite. What does one do with a parasite?

There is only one thing that can be done with a parasite, it must be killed.

If Israel is a parasite, then what must the US do about it, in your view? A parasite has no choice but to be parasitical, and if Israel is a parasite then it must be so with the US and if not her then someone else. What do you do with a tick that is crawling on you? Release it back to the yard to crawl back on you?

That type of rhetoric is unproductive at best. Conjure up images of rallies where protesters are out there calling those who are on welfare or unemployment "parasites of society!"

They are human beings, man. Equating human beings to parasites is pretty poor form and is a view held by extremists. One should refrain from such, as it merely is a way to turn an opponent into something less than human. A trend all too common in this day an age, turning people into blood sucking, life devouring evil entities that are no better than a tapeworm.

As I said before, stay classy Woodruff. Keep equating nations and peoples to parasites. When the time comes to actually deal with such problems those sentiments will be of great use in deciding exactly what to do about said problem.....

I agree the relationship between Israel and the USA is a parasitical relationship. The US gives far too much money/love/support to this country. The relationship is negative and detrimental to the USA, and the relationship should be adjusted so it's not so parasitical.

Oh my, this is just ridiculous. You take Mitt Romney, a guy who's proven to have the ideal skill set to fix the problems we face at this time, and this is what you say about him?

So you believe "the ideal skill set to fix the problems we face at this time" is to outsource everything China? Because that seems to be a significant part of his skill set.

The set of skills that rMoney has isn't going to make this nation great. It's going to destroy the 99%, make the 1% even richer and more powerful while exporting our jobs to China. It will make the 1% richer in the short term, but in the long term it will hasten the decline of the USA.

I suppose that if you don't think computer, cell phone, clean energy, or military technologies contribute positively to the United States and the world as a whole, Israel doesn't do that much. My belief is that the modern world revolves around these things and as a result that the world is in Israel's debt for developing them. If you disagree you're welcome to throw away your computer and cell phone or to continue in your blind self righteousness.

Did you just attribute the creation of computers, cell phones, clean energy, and military technologies to Israel? That's the dumbest thing I've read all week. You should have included that Al Gore invented the internet.

[GreecePwns]

ITT: patches declares that Anti-Zionism = Anti-semitism, just like everyone else who has no argument left indefending the Israeli state

[Night Strike]

The set of skills that rMoney has isn't going to make this nation great. It's going to destroy the 99%, make the 1% even richer and more powerful while exporting our jobs to China. It will make the 1% richer in the short term, but in the long term it will hasten the decline of the USA.

You've bought in to this "us vs them" class warfare hook, line, and sinker haven't you?

[GreecePwns]

Whenever conservatives bring up this "no class warfare" thing, I can't help but think of Mussolini. I don't know why. Maybe people can help me here.

[bedub1]

I just think it's silly that you think the relationship is anything but one-way. I guess like a parasite, they may provide SOMETHING in return...not much.

Wow. A backhanded way of calling Israel (and in effect, Jews) parasites. Oh, excuse me, worse than parasites. Stay classy Woodruff!

I have no problem at all saying that the nation of Israel's relationship with the nation of the United States is parasitical. That does not, in any way, correlate any kind of relationship to individuals living in Israel. Which you know, of course. Stay classy, patches (and you wonder why I've started to think of you like I do Phatscotty and Night Strike...).

If you say so, sir. I've never seen such antisemitism from you before. Calling Israel a parasite of the US is the exact same expression used on virtually all hate group sites, literature, speeches and views.

At the next KKK or neo nazi rally, look for placards calling Israel a parasite. You'll find 'em and you are spouting the exact same rhetoric. They believe it to be true, as it seems so you do as well.

Describing the relationship between the USA and Israel to be Parasitic isn't Antisemitism. You need to look that word up in the dictionary.

Your belief appears to be that anything negative about Israel is an attack on your religion.

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck....

I do know that what he said is beyond inappropriate and borderline (at best!) bigoted, racist and just plain a terrible thing to say.

His statement is none of those things.

The problem with using the term "parasitical" is that you are calling Israel a parasite. What does one do with a parasite?

There is only one thing that can be done with a parasite, it must be killed.

Wrong. You remove the parasite so it stop's feeding on the host. You cut off aid to Isreal and let them pay for it themselves. Instead of sending 3billion a year to Isreal we send 3billion a year to NASA. There is a difference between describing a group of people as parasites, and describing the relationship between two nations to be parasitic. If you don't understand the difference, that is your loss. It's obvious to me now that we will be unable to educate you as to the difference.

[bedub1]

The set of skills that rMoney has isn't going to make this nation great. It's going to destroy the 99%, make the 1% even richer and more powerful while exporting our jobs to China. It will make the 1% richer in the short term, but in the long term it will hasten the decline of the USA.

You've bought in to this "us vs them" class warfare hook, line, and sinker haven't you?

I haven't "bought into" anything. You need to open your eyes to the reality that exists around us right now buddy if you don't see there is a divide.

This reminds me of a great section from the movie "Richie Rich".

rMoney: I'm all in favor of charity, sir. But your donations are costing the corporation $1 billion a year, and I think it's time we asked ourselves: What are we getting for it?
Melinda Gates: [incredulous] What are we getting for it? Why, we're getting food banks, medical clinics, shelters for the homeless-!
Bill Gates: Now, Melinda, calm down! It's my job to keep an eye on the bottom line.
rMoney: Which is why I have to oppose the United Tool acquisition. We should be getting rid of dead weight, not acquiring more.
Bill Gates: I agree. That's why I am getting rid of United Tool...
Melinda Gates: Richard! All those people and their jobs!
rMoney: That is brilliant. I should've thought of it myself. We buy the company in bankruptcy, level the factories...
Bill Gates: No, I'm keeping the factory open.
rMoney: Then we go in and bust the unions, slash benefits, and after that sell the company. Right?
Bill Gates: No. We give it away.
rMoney: [bangs his hand down on the table, and snaps his finger] We git it a - -
[suddenly looks despaired]
rMoney: We give it away.
Bill Gates: Absolutely! We modernize it, of course, and retool. Then we turn the factory over to the workers.

See in this case rMoney is doing what will make the most money for the 1%. But good-guy Bill Gates is a good person, that looks out for everybody. He understands that leveling factories, selling off equipment, busting unions, slashing benefits doesn't make us richer, it makes us poorer. If Bill Gates wanted to run for president I'd support him 100%. But not this ass-hat rMoney.

[comic boy]

My belief is that the modern world revolves around these things and as a result that the world is in Israel's debt for developing them. If you disagree you're welcome to throw away your computer and cell phone or to continue in your blind self righteousness.

Gabon has always been a fuckwit hypocrite but given his claims for Israel it is hard to see how he justifies calling Britain backwards . Is he aware that a Brit gave the world the internet , perhaps he ignores the fact because he thinks it pathetic that Sir Tim chose to benefit humanity rather than just himself and his cronies.