1 Dead in Pakistan Consulate Attack

[saxitoxin]

@sax

You're right that Iranian military forces have not explicitly invaded any country (maybe) in the past 800 years.

But covert ops? Arming and training Hezbollah and various groups within Iraq, Afghanistan, and Jordan might disturb your peaceful painting of Iran.

Well, as far as I know, there has only ever been a provable link between Iran and Hezbollah, which (to the best of my knowledge) has never engaged in military operations outside Israel and Lebanon, and is also a legitimate political party with seats in the Lebanese parliament. George W. Bush even delisted it as a terrorist organization for a couple years after they came out against al-Qaeda post 9/11, IIRC.

Hezbollah isn't all that scary, they just have a grim sounding name in English. If I were their branding consultant I would advise them to change their name to Daffodil or something with softer consonants like that.

[saxitoxin]

Scott, you raise some good and interesting points, however, a few notes -

(1) Protests in Iran occurred a couple years before the NATO-created "Arab Spring" and during month 5 of the Obama presidency.

(2) Protests in Iran were not random event but in support of the defeated presidential candidate Mousavi, the mastermind of the 1983 attack on the U.S. Marine barracks in Lebanon that killed 240 U.S. Marines - are you saying Obama should have given his backing to Mousavi and his supporters?

(3) Mousavi is a pseudo-secular Marxist-Leninist whose political hero is Che Guevera. A lack of support by Obama toward Mousavi requires another roll of duct tape be applied to keep the Obama is a Marxist theory together.

Do you think Obama really supports Israel?

I think Obama supports whomever is signing the checks. Right now AIPAC is writing the checks. If Hezbollah started writing checks, Obama would support Hezbollah.

The absence of support Obama is giving Netanyahu right now shouldn't be perceived as a lack of support toward Israel. Netanyahu is facing a certain defeat in the next Knesset election and Obama is trying to avoid tying the US to a fast sinking ship. Gen. Mofaz, ex-chief of the IDF, last week said Netanyahu had gone insane and was advocating for an attack on Iran against the advise of Mossad and Shin-Bet and that Israel was at least 1-2 years from being prepared to absorb an Iranian counter-strike.

[saxitoxin]

Apparently moments before US Embassy in Yemen was captured today by protestors opposed to drone attacks -

[2dimes]

Saxi, do you know if there is Canuck hospitality tents in Yemen? I'm pretty sure we didn't have anything in Libya as we were not even allowed to fly there until recently.

[saxitoxin]

Saxi, do you know if there is Canuck hospitality tents in Yemen? I'm pretty sure we didn't have anything in Libya as we were not even allowed to fly there until recently.

No, but if I recall correctly Don Cherry is doing a one-off broadcast of Hockey Night in Canada this year from a Bedouin village outside the capital. Maybe I heard that wrong.

[BigBallinStalin]

Good posts, sax. Thanks for the feedback.

I'd dig into that Hezbollah + others claim, but I'd have to spend time finding sources that agree with me....

[2dimes]

No, but if I recall correctly Don Cherry is doing a one-off broadcast of Hockey Night in Canada this year from a Bedouin village outside the capital. Maybe I heard that wrong.

Let's hope so. I heard the kids are starved for Hockey over there.

[aad0906]

That is a long answer, but to keep it in the context of my statement: when the people of Iran rose up right after the people of Egypt, Obama didn't say shit. suspected reason: Iran is hostile towards Israel, and Obama did not wish to see that change. It's further suspected because the countries Obama did speak up about and encourage and even help overthrow of governments.....that were at peace with Israel. It's just an observation

Scotty, imagine McCain had won the election. You would have been able to replace Obama's name in the above with McCain's name and the statement would probably have been equally true. Pretty much any post WW2 president, both Democrat and Republican, have sustained the miltary industrial complex (and invaded one country or another).

But perhaps there is another reason why Obama didn't say shit. Maybe it is because the Iranian regime blamed the protests on US spies and interference etc. By openly supporting or encouraging the protestors he would have given legitimacy to those claims and when a regime is faced with hostile external interference, a nation rallies behind it's leadership.

I also doubt Obama would ex-ante applaud the leadership change that did happen because the leaders (dictators?) in question were stabilizing regional factors and pro-America (-ish).

[saxitoxin]

Violent protests - mad at Obama's drone strike genocide campaign - have erupted outside U.S. embassies in Israel, Morocco and Iraq. Protests are also going on outside the Swiss Embassy in Tehran, Iran (Switzerland is the Protecting Power of the U.S.). Obama continues to release flurries of press releases blaming an obscure home video, though.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/world_n ... -film.html
http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/13/world/mea ... ?hpt=hp_t1

outside Obama's fortified palace compound in DC


outside Swiss Embassy in Iran

[saxitoxin]

Obama's "diplomats" get in a 3rd grade flame-war with the Muslim Brotherhood on Twitter. Talk about Amateur Hour.

The sarcastic exchange Thursday - since deleted by the U.S. Embassy in Cairo's account -- gave a passive aggressive tone to relations that have been strained by the Tuesday night action. In the assault, hundreds of protesters angry over an anti-Islam film climbed up the wall of the embassy in downtown Cairo, entered the grounds, pulled down the American flag and replaced it with a black, Islamist banner. Security forces did nothing to stop them.

The embassy's tweets implied that the Brotherhood, whose longtime member Mohammed Morsi is Egypt's new president, has been sending mixed messages, fueling public anger over the movie.

"Guys guys! stop! take it outside please..." came the plea from Abdelrahman Ghareeb, one of many tweeters who weighed in amusement over the exchange.

There was no immediate counter-tweet from the embassy.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-575 ... otherhood/

[notyou2]

Congratulations America for supporting the "peaceful" Arab Spring (and the rebels in Libya)

So you don't believe that the people of a nation should be able to form their own government? You're ready for the United Nations to tell America what kind of government we can have, are you?

Actually, I think he's saying that we shouldn't have gotten involved.

Re-reading it, you may be right. I may have misunderstood what he was getting at. Is thegreekdog right, Night Strike?

We knew the Muslim Brotherhood consisted of radical Muslims. We knew there was a high probability that the Libyan rebels had been infiltrated by al-Qaeda. Yet we supported both uprisings. There was no apparent radicalism in the Iranian protests, yet we did not support them. This is what happens when you rely on radicals who the only people they hate more than the US (or Israel) is whichever current government isn't letting them achieve power.

The radicals that started this are in your own country.

[saxitoxin]

Hitler - Nuremberg '33


Obama - Berlin '08


The German Embassy in Sudan was burned to the ground by protestors a bit ago - Obama has a servicing center for his Murder-Drones in Spangdahlem, Rhineland and Germans famously staged a Nuremberg-style mass rally for Obama in 2008 in Berlin. Hope you enjoyed your free beer, Berliners. LMAO.



http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/14/wi ... ?hpt=hp_t1

[thegreekdog]

Congratulations America for supporting the "peaceful" Arab Spring (and the rebels in Libya)

So you don't believe that the people of a nation should be able to form their own government? You're ready for the United Nations to tell America what kind of government we can have, are you?

Actually, I think he's saying that we shouldn't have gotten involved.

Re-reading it, you may be right. I may have misunderstood what he was getting at. Is thegreekdog right, Night Strike?

We knew the Muslim Brotherhood consisted of radical Muslims. We knew there was a high probability that the Libyan rebels had been infiltrated by al-Qaeda. Yet we supported both uprisings. There was no apparent radicalism in the Iranian protests, yet we did not support them. This is what happens when you rely on radicals who the only people they hate more than the US (or Israel) is whichever current government isn't letting them achieve power.

The radicals that started this are in your own country.

Yeah, except if you say that then you can't win a Republican primary election.

[saxitoxin]

"Hezbollah Welcomes His Holiness Benedict XVI to Lebanon"


Hezbollah Helps Organize Welcome for Papal Visit to Lebanon

Arriving in Beirut International Airport Friday, among the first groups to welcome Pope Benedict XVI were rows of hundreds of child and teen members of the Hezbollah scouts, alongside black chador-clad Shiite Muslim women waving the Lebanese flags.

Some 1,000 boys and girls -- all members of the Mahdi scouts -- line up on the road out from the airport dressed in well-pressed shirts, blue or military green depending on their ages, adorned with a badge showing the picture of Iranian religious and political leader, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini.

Beirut's aiport lays in the heart of the Lebanese capital's mostly Shiite southern suburbs, where support for Hezbollah is widespread.

Many of the children carry the Lebanese flag, but some also wave the flag of the Vatican. All wear badges showing the Lebanese flag alongside the logo of their scouts team.

Under the scorching late summer sun, the elder children wait patiently, while the younger ones play, enjoying their day off from school to the maximum.

"The pope is here! The pope is here!" cries a 10-year-old boy, as he leans out and holds his Lebanese flag over a fence on the airport road.

"This is a historic visit, I feel the pope will help bring peace to Lebanon," says Nayef, who wears a black headscarf. "I want to thank the pope, but I also want to thank (Hezbollah Secretary-General) Hassan Nasrallah, for helping bring peace to Lebanon. The secret to peace is coexistence."

Just as excited is school teacher Iman Faris, who lives in the southern suburbs of Beirut, battered by aerial bombardment in 2006 during a war between Israel and Hezbollah.

"Those who say there are differences between Muslims and Christians just want to ruin our country," says Faris. "After all, the first woman to wear a headscarf was Mary."

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent ... irut-.aspx

[BigBallinStalin]

Yeah, nice PR.

[saxitoxin]

The first video of Benedict's arrival in Beirut this morning --

Highlights:

- Hezbollah Leader Hassan Nasrallah is greeting the Pope at 14:25 in the video

- appears to be Greek Orthodox priests greeting Benedict at 17:38

Lebanon clearly is a land of great diversity that suffers from Israeli aggression.

[rdsrds2120]

Yeah, nice PR.

He still looks scary. Horrifying, even.

BMO

[saxitoxin]

In Tunisia, protests against Obama's Wars continue ...

Protesters had earlier set fire to trees in the U.S. embassy compound. "(U.S. President Barack) Obama, Obama, we are all Osamas," the protesters chanted ...

http://af.reuters.com/article/libyaNews ... C220120914

youth burn a Michelle Obama flag in Tunis

[saxitoxin]

A fourth Obama compound has now been captured as the US Embassy in Tunis has been completely overrun by youth protestors, after police retreated, and burned to the ground.



Obama desperately deploying ground troops to countries around the world as his facilities are falling like dominoes -

WASHINGTON — A U.S. official says an elite Marine rapid response team has arrived in Yemen in the wake of violence and protests in the capital of Sanaa.

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2012/09/a ... um=twitter

EVERYTHING IS OKAY, NOTHING IS ... HEY LOOK, GAY MARRIAGE! YES, LOOK AT THE GAY WEDDING, DON'T LOOK OVER THERE.

[saxitoxin]

Unconfirmed ... The barracks of the so-called "UN" forces in Sinai have just been overrun. An Australian or Canadian guard tower is on fire and remnants of the "UN" are in retreat.

The Egyptian people have opened the path to occupied Palestine. Will the Army make the most of it?

[saxitoxin]

Partially confirmed but they're not ID'ing the nationality of the contingents that surrendered to Egypt. Though, in a way, silence is confirmation. It wouldn't be a big deal if it was the Uruguayan group that was defeated.

http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworl ... tfilm.html

[saxitoxin]

Dozens of gunmen, in some 50 vehicles, surrounded the base and then 60-70 of them burst in, storming into the base amid heavy gunfire. Exchanges of fire were continuing into the night, the report said.

http://gestetnerupdates.com/2012/09/14/ ... er-attack/

Door's open, boys -

[BigBallinStalin]

A fourth Obama compound has now been captured as the US Embassy in Tunis has been completely overrun by youth protestors, after police retreated, and burned to the ground.


Obama desperately deploying ground troops to countries around the world as his facilities are falling like dominoes -

WASHINGTON — A U.S. official says an elite Marine rapid response team has arrived in Yemen in the wake of violence and protests in the capital of Sanaa.

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2012/09/a ... um=twitter

Summary of Events from HuffPo and Calgary

show

1. Protest outside embassy begins--allegedly over some film. (I'll continue arguing that the video was a tipping point, and the underlying cause was due to certain organizations having planned these operations while waiting for the right moment to use people to their advantage.)

2. Tensions rise, and police most likely shoot bullets and tear gas first against the rock and molotov-throwers.
3. Protestors overcome police and get into the embassy
4. They steal computers from the embassy and from the nearby American "school" (whatever it exactly is).
5. Then they burn the school and some parts of the embassy.


I wonder how valuable those embassy computers are...
I wonder if the embassy personnel had enough time to destroy critical information...

[thegreekdog]

I would be very disappointed if sensitive information were placed on the hard drives of computers in an embassy.

[BigBallinStalin]

Partially confirmed but they're not ID'ing the nationality of the contingents that surrendered to Egypt. Though, in a way, silence is confirmation. It wouldn't be a big deal if it was the Uruguayan group that was defeated.

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=177949&p=3889369&hilit=conspiracy+theory#p3889369

- which Cass Sunstein's thesis "Conspiracy Theories" explains -

Ignoring the conspiracy theory allows its proponents to draw ominous inferences from the government’s silence. If the theory stands unrebutted, one possibility is that it is too ludicrous to need rebuttal, but another is that the government cannot offer relevant evidence to the contrary; the suppliers of the conspiracy theories will propose the second inference. On the other hand, to rebut the theory may be to legitimate it, moving the theory from the zone of claims too ludicrous to be discussed to the zone of claims that, whether or not true, are in some sense worth discussing.

http://wikispooks.com/w/images/3/37/Cas ... racies.pdf

Have you been cognitively infiltrated by Cass Sunstein?