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Re: UN Bases Overrun in Sinai?

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:05 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:Partially confirmed but they're not ID'ing the nationality of the contingents that surrendered to Egypt. Though, in a way, silence is confirmation. It wouldn't be a big deal if it was the Uruguayan group that was defeated.


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- which Cass Sunstein's thesis "Conspiracy Theories" explains -

Ignoring the conspiracy theory allows its proponents to draw ominous inferences from the government’s silence. If the theory stands unrebutted, one possibility is that it is too ludicrous to need rebuttal, but another is that the government cannot offer relevant evidence to the contrary; the suppliers of the conspiracy theories will propose the second inference. On the other hand, to rebut the theory may be to legitimate it, moving the theory from the zone of claims too ludicrous to be discussed to the zone of claims that, whether or not true, are in some sense worth discussing.

http://wikispooks.com/w/images/3/37/Cas ... racies.pdf



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Re: UN Bases Overrun in Sinai / Pitched Battles

Postby Woodruff on Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:06 pm

thegreekdog wrote:I would be very disappointed if sensitive information were placed on the hard drives of computers in an embassy.


I would be shocked if there weren't sensitive information on the hard drives of at least some of the computers in the embassy. It seems rational to me that embassy personnel (whether they be security personnel or the diplomatic personnel) would need access to sensitive material, and computers are the most likely way to not only transmit that information, but also to protect it.

I would be more concerned about encryption codes (protecting that sensitive information) eventually being broken due to the computer access rather than the sensitive information itself. That's likely much more of a problem, in my opinion.
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Re: UN Bases Overrun in Sinai / Pitched Battles

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:07 pm

Obama sending a destroyer to Botswana to protect the US Embassy there -

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Re: UN Bases Overrun in Sinai?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:09 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:Partially confirmed but they're not ID'ing the nationality of the contingents that surrendered to Egypt. Though, in a way, silence is confirmation. It wouldn't be a big deal if it was the Uruguayan group that was defeated.


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- which Cass Sunstein's thesis "Conspiracy Theories" explains -

Ignoring the conspiracy theory allows its proponents to draw ominous inferences from the government’s silence. If the theory stands unrebutted, one possibility is that it is too ludicrous to need rebuttal, but another is that the government cannot offer relevant evidence to the contrary; the suppliers of the conspiracy theories will propose the second inference. On the other hand, to rebut the theory may be to legitimate it, moving the theory from the zone of claims too ludicrous to be discussed to the zone of claims that, whether or not true, are in some sense worth discussing.

http://wikispooks.com/w/images/3/37/Cas ... racies.pdf



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Re: UN Bases Overrun in Sinai / Pitched Battles

Postby Phatscotty on Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:47 pm

So what grade does Obama get for foreign policy in the Middle East? This is 1979 all over again.

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Postby 2dimes on Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:49 pm

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I would be shocked if there were not.
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Re: UN Bases Overrun in Sinai?

Postby Phatscotty on Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:51 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:Partially confirmed but they're not ID'ing the nationality of the contingents that surrendered to Egypt. Though, in a way, silence is confirmation. It wouldn't be a big deal if it was the Uruguayan group that was defeated.


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- which Cass Sunstein's thesis "Conspiracy Theories" explains -

Ignoring the conspiracy theory allows its proponents to draw ominous inferences from the government’s silence. If the theory stands unrebutted, one possibility is that it is too ludicrous to need rebuttal, but another is that the government cannot offer relevant evidence to the contrary; the suppliers of the conspiracy theories will propose the second inference. On the other hand, to rebut the theory may be to legitimate it, moving the theory from the zone of claims too ludicrous to be discussed to the zone of claims that, whether or not true, are in some sense worth discussing.

http://wikispooks.com/w/images/3/37/Cas ... racies.pdf



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Re: UN Bases Overrun in Sinai / Pitched Battles

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:59 pm

According to Haaretz, it was a Colombian base that was attacked (in the below report I have edited out the word "militant" and replaced it with the word "activist" for impartiality) -

The MFO force inside the camp, the majority of whom are Colombian, fired back at the activists and an exchange of fire ensued. Dozens of gunmen still surround the base, located in the al Gura area of northern Sinai, and have blocked the roads leading to it, according to the latest reports. Soroka Medical Center, Be’er Sheva said that two of the wounded were being transferred to the hospital in southern Israel for treatment. The Israel Defense Forces did not confirm the report.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east ... d-1.465096


- but, the Colombian Defense Ministry doesn't say anything on their website -

http://www.mindefensa.gov.co/irj/portal/Mindefensa
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Re: UN Bases Overrun in Sinai / Pitched Battles

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:12 pm

Obama now sending ground troops into a multi-year conflict in The Sudan.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09 ... ts-spread/

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Re: 4th Obama Compound Captured; Attacks Repulsed at Others

Postby Night Strike on Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:01 pm

saxitoxin wrote:Obama desperately deploying ground troops to countries around the world as his facilities are falling like dominoes -


I don't understand why all these defensive troops are being sent AFTER the protestors breach the embassies instead of before. Everything this president is doing is reactionary, and it's putting our citizens in danger.
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Re: 4th Obama Compound Captured; Attacks Repulsed at Others

Postby Woodruff on Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:10 pm

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saxitoxin wrote:Obama desperately deploying ground troops to countries around the world as his facilities are falling like dominoes -


I don't understand why all these defensive troops are being sent AFTER the protestors breach the embassies instead of before. Everything this president is doing is reactionary, and it's putting our citizens in danger.


Seriously, Night Strike? There's almost certainly a buttload of very sensitive information there. I mean, geez...at least find something legitimate to bitch about.
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Re: 4th Obama Compound Captured; Attacks Repulsed at Others

Postby Night Strike on Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:36 pm

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saxitoxin wrote:Obama desperately deploying ground troops to countries around the world as his facilities are falling like dominoes -


I don't understand why all these defensive troops are being sent AFTER the protestors breach the embassies instead of before. Everything this president is doing is reactionary, and it's putting our citizens in danger.


Seriously, Night Strike? There's almost certainly a buttload of very sensitive information there. I mean, geez...at least find something legitimate to bitch about.


So shouldn't those teams arrive before the protestors show up at the embassies instead of after?
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Re: 4th Obama Compound Captured; Attacks Repulsed at Others

Postby Woodruff on Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:33 pm

Night Strike wrote:
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Night Strike wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:Obama desperately deploying ground troops to countries around the world as his facilities are falling like dominoes -


I don't understand why all these defensive troops are being sent AFTER the protestors breach the embassies instead of before. Everything this president is doing is reactionary, and it's putting our citizens in danger.


Seriously, Night Strike? There's almost certainly a buttload of very sensitive information there. I mean, geez...at least find something legitimate to bitch about.


So shouldn't those teams arrive before the protestors show up at the embassies instead of after?


I suppose if you expect the President (or one of his subordinates) to be omniscient.
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Re: UN Bases Overrun in Sinai / Pitched Battles

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:37 pm

Blockbuster from the UK's Independent - Obama Given Advance Warning of Impending Embassy Attacks while lunching with Grammy-winning recording artist Beyoncé

According to senior diplomatic sources, the US State Department had credible information 48 hours before mobs charged the consulate in Benghazi, and the embassy in Cairo, that American missions may be targeted, but no warnings were given for diplomats to go on high alert and "lockdown", under which movement is severely restricted.

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Re: 4th Obama Compound Captured; Attacks Repulsed at Others

Postby Night Strike on Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:40 pm

Woodruff wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:Obama desperately deploying ground troops to countries around the world as his facilities are falling like dominoes -


I don't understand why all these defensive troops are being sent AFTER the protestors breach the embassies instead of before. Everything this president is doing is reactionary, and it's putting our citizens in danger.


Seriously, Night Strike? There's almost certainly a buttload of very sensitive information there. I mean, geez...at least find something legitimate to bitch about.


So shouldn't those teams arrive before the protestors show up at the embassies instead of after?


I suppose if you expect the President (or one of his subordinates) to be omniscient.


Considering there are reports that the administration knew 48 hours ahead of time that attacks in Libya were likely, omniscience isn't necessary. Furthermore, they also knew that Tuesday was 9/11, so any partially credible threats should have resulted in a beefed up security contingent. But even if we assume nothing more could have been done to protect the embassy in Cairo and the consulate in Benghazi, that is no reason to completely ignore the other embassies and fail to give them more protection before violence breaks out in their locations. Especially since they had a day or two before the radical Imams issued their Friday "prayers".
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Re: UN Bases Overrun in Sinai / Pitched Battles

Postby GabonX on Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:45 pm

Give Woodruff a break guys. They don't report that shiat on the Huffington Post.
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Re: UN Bases Overrun in Sinai / Pitched Battles

Postby patrickaa317 on Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:45 pm

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Re: UN Bases Overrun in Sinai / Pitched Battles

Postby Phatscotty on Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:02 pm

GabonX wrote:Give Woodruff a break guys. They don't report that shiat on the Huffington Post.


:lol: =D> =D>
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Re: 4th Obama Compound Captured; Attacks Repulsed at Others

Postby Woodruff on Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:08 pm

Night Strike wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:Obama desperately deploying ground troops to countries around the world as his facilities are falling like dominoes -


I don't understand why all these defensive troops are being sent AFTER the protestors breach the embassies instead of before. Everything this president is doing is reactionary, and it's putting our citizens in danger.


Seriously, Night Strike? There's almost certainly a buttload of very sensitive information there. I mean, geez...at least find something legitimate to bitch about.


So shouldn't those teams arrive before the protestors show up at the embassies instead of after?


I suppose if you expect the President (or one of his subordinates) to be omniscient.


Considering there are reports that the administration knew 48 hours ahead of time that attacks in Libya were likely


Got a link? (I'm not saying you're wrong, but this is the first I've heard of it and I would like to see it.)
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Re: UN Bases Overrun in Sinai / Pitched Battles

Postby Woodruff on Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:10 pm

GabonX wrote:Give Woodruff a break guys. They don't report that shiat on the Huffington Post.


I think it's humorous that you believe I get all of my news from Huffington Post. A very cursory look at threads I originate should show how false that is. Hell, a look at just the last political thread I started (within the last couple of days) shows how false it is. But don't let reality get in the way of your attack. I know how you love to wallow in ignorance.

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Re: UN Bases Overrun in Sinai / Pitched Battles

Postby GabonX on Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:13 pm

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Re: UN Bases Overrun in Sinai / Pitched Battles

Postby Woodruff on Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:14 pm

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An excellent commentary on your posts.
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Re: UN Bases Overrun in Sinai / Pitched Battles

Postby GabonX on Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:22 pm

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Re: 4th Obama Compound Captured; Attacks Repulsed at Others

Postby Night Strike on Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:57 pm

Woodruff wrote:
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Night Strike wrote:So shouldn't those teams arrive before the protestors show up at the embassies instead of after?


I suppose if you expect the President (or one of his subordinates) to be omniscient.


Considering there are reports that the administration knew 48 hours ahead of time that attacks in Libya were likely


Got a link? (I'm not saying you're wrong, but this is the first I've heard of it and I would like to see it.)


The administration has adamantly denied the reports, but here is the article: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/revealed-inside-story-of-us-envoys-assassination-8135797.html
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Re: UN Bases Overrun in Sinai / Pitched Battles

Postby BigBallinStalin on Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:23 pm

saxitoxin wrote:Blockbuster from the UK's Independent - Obama Given Advance Warning of Impending Embassy Attacks while lunching with Grammy-winning recording artist Beyoncé

According to senior diplomatic sources, the US State Department had credible information 48 hours before mobs charged the consulate in Benghazi, and the embassy in Cairo, that American missions may be targeted, but no warnings were given for diplomats to go on high alert and "lockdown", under which movement is severely restricted.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 35797.html



Yeah, well the DHS integrates all the information and distributes it to all interested bureaucracies, so there's no way this could have happened.
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