Getting Paid For Your Cell Phone Service!

[Timminz]

Research has shown that Network Marketing businesses is the best way for average Joes like us to become financially independent.

Now, I don't mean to sound cynical (it just happens naturally), but was that research done by the same people who were trying to convince you to join their pyramid?

Actually this is old news that's been around for at least 15 years. Financially successful individuals such as Robert Kiyosaki and Donald Trump have spoken about the benefits of Network Marketing and Multi Level Marketing for years. The Owner of the Orlando Magic basketball team was one of the founders of Amway. There has been plenty of articles and books written about the benefits of Network Marketing and Multi Level Marketing. For the last 50 years or so, it has been one of the best avenues for creating self made millionaires.

I agree that it's a great way to make money, for the founders. I'm just pointing out that in order for it to be so successful for them, they need you to believe that it will be equally as successful for you.

If you actually created this company, then kudos to you. Otherwise, don't quite your day job.

[Rockness]

Research has shown that Network Marketing businesses is the best way for average Joes like us to become financially independent.

Now, I don't mean to sound cynical (it just happens naturally), but was that research done by the same people who were trying to convince you to join their pyramid?

Actually this is old news that's been around for at least 15 years. Financially successful individuals such as Robert Kiyosaki and Donald Trump have spoken about the benefits of Network Marketing and Multi Level Marketing for years. The Owner of the Orlando Magic basketball team was one of the founders of Amway. There has been plenty of articles and books written about the benefits of Network Marketing and Multi Level Marketing. For the last 50 years or so, it has been one of the best avenues for creating self made millionaires.

I agree that it's a great way to make money, for the founders. I'm just pointing out that in order for it to be so successful for them, they need you to believe that it will be equally as successful for you.

If you actually created this company, then kudos to you. Otherwise, don't quite your day job.

Wherever theirs money to be made there will be scams. What you said is 100% correct for some network marketing companies but not all. I've been researching Network Marketing companies for a long time. Not all of them have a solid financial structure and a lot of them are very short sighted when it comes to their pay out structure. Another problem with a lot of Networking Marketing companies is that they sell things that people usually do not need, want or use often which means that the individual has to work hard to sell and motivate their down line on a consistent basis; that will eventually ware you out.

The reason why I picked Solavei was because they have a solid pay structure and they are selling something that just about everyone uses! Think about it: unlimited talk/data/text, 4G, nationwide and without credit or background checks, for only $49.00 a month and on top of that you can get paid! If you have Sprint or Verizon and you tell your friends and they go and get the same service, do you get paid? Seriously: Does this sound like a bad deal?

[Symmetry]

Research has shown that Network Marketing businesses is the best way for average Joes like us to become financially independent.

Now, I don't mean to sound cynical (it just happens naturally), but was that research done by the same people who were trying to convince you to join their pyramid?

Actually this is old news that's been around for at least 15 years. Financially successful individuals such as Robert Kiyosaki and Donald Trump have spoken about the benefits of Network Marketing and Multi Level Marketing for years. The Owner of the Orlando Magic basketball team was one of the founders of Amway. There has been plenty of articles and books written about the benefits of Network Marketing and Multi Level Marketing. For the last 50 years or so, it has been one of the best avenues for creating self made millionaires.

I agree that it's a great way to make money, for the founders. I'm just pointing out that in order for it to be so successful for them, they need you to believe that it will be equally as successful for you.

If you actually created this company, then kudos to you. Otherwise, don't quite your day job.

Wherever theirs money to be made there will be scams. What you said is 100% correct for some network marketing companies but not all. I've been researching Network Marketing companies for a long time. Not all of them have a solid financial structure and a lot of them are very short sighted when it comes to their pay out structure. Another problem with a lot of Networking Marketing companies is that they sell things that people usually do not need, want or use often which means that the individual has to work hard to sell and motivate their down line on a consistent basis; that will eventually ware you out.

The reason why I picked Solavei was because they have a solid pay structure and they are selling something that just about everyone uses! Think about it: unlimited talk/data/text, 4G, nationwide and without credit or background checks, for only $49.00 a month and on top of that you can get paid! If you have Sprint or Verizon and you tell your friends and they go and get the same service, do you get paid? Seriously: Does this sound like a bad deal?

It sounds pretty terrible when you say it. Are you getting paid for this stuff?

[Rockness]

Research has shown that Network Marketing businesses is the best way for average Joes like us to become financially independent.

Now, I don't mean to sound cynical (it just happens naturally), but was that research done by the same people who were trying to convince you to join their pyramid?

Actually this is old news that's been around for at least 15 years. Financially successful individuals such as Robert Kiyosaki and Donald Trump have spoken about the benefits of Network Marketing and Multi Level Marketing for years. The Owner of the Orlando Magic basketball team was one of the founders of Amway. There has been plenty of articles and books written about the benefits of Network Marketing and Multi Level Marketing. For the last 50 years or so, it has been one of the best avenues for creating self made millionaires.

I agree that it's a great way to make money, for the founders. I'm just pointing out that in order for it to be so successful for them, they need you to believe that it will be equally as successful for you.

If you actually created this company, then kudos to you. Otherwise, don't quite your day job.

Wherever theirs money to be made there will be scams. What you said is 100% correct for some network marketing companies but not all. I've been researching Network Marketing companies for a long time. Not all of them have a solid financial structure and a lot of them are very short sighted when it comes to their pay out structure. Another problem with a lot of Networking Marketing companies is that they sell things that people usually do not need, want or use often which means that the individual has to work hard to sell and motivate their down line on a consistent basis; that will eventually ware you out.

The reason why I picked Solavei was because they have a solid pay structure and they are selling something that just about everyone uses! Think about it: unlimited talk/data/text, 4G, nationwide and without credit or background checks, for only $49.00 a month and on top of that you can get paid! If you have Sprint or Verizon and you tell your friends and they go and get the same service, do you get paid? Seriously: Does this sound like a bad deal?

It sounds pretty terrible when you say it. Are you getting paid for this stuff?

Hey: I'm doing something new here. I'll get better in time. However, I've done enough research on Solavei to know that it is a great opportunity to financially get ahead.

[Symmetry]

Apparently not if you're on the bottom of the pyramid.

[BigBallinStalin]

Solavei
As Solavei's customer base expands, it will become marginally less profitable for them to offer unlimited services, to not administer credit/background checks, and to payout the same $20/month per Trio. A Trio is three people who a customer has convinced to join. One receives additional bonuses for advancing up the ranks which are based on the number of Trios one has.


If Solavei doesn't adjust their prices in time ($49.00/month + fees + Trio payments), and/or restructure their production process, then they'll incur a loss.

If they can't escape that situation, they'll go bankrupt.

If they go bankrupt, it may not matter for the owners because they've rewarded themselves handsomely enough over the time of operation and might be protected enough by limited liability laws; however, this is risky because they could lose everything anyway (so why take the risk?).

Depending on the contract, the customers of that Trio system may receive nothing--except for what they've already earned through the Trio-payout system.



Given all that, I don't see what the problem is with Solavei.

Concerns:

1. The present discount value of future streams of income per Trio is subject to change.
2. You could annoy your friends/Trio-customers IF they lose cell phone service, for which they may erroneously blame you.


Is this a Ponzi/Pyramid Scheme?
This may be construed as a Ponzi/Pyramid scheme because you do pay $50/month; however, you get cell phone coverage--which may be worth the exchange for most people. With Ponzi Schemes, you'd pay something like $10,000 and receive 10% per year. You expect to earn more over the years, but eventually it doesn't last as the customer base expands and the owners' streams of revenue fail to cover interest payments. Bankruptcy ensues, and investors/lenders incur losses.

With Solavei, there's no $10,000 investment required, interest payments, and the like. You pay $50/month for cell phone service. If you wish to expand their customer base, you get rewarded for it. If Solavei goes bankrupt, you don't lose your money*--unlike the Ponzi/Pyramid scheme. You lose your cell phone coverage and future streams of income--which did not require some huge initial investment (e.g. $10,000). Solavei obviously is not a Ponzi/Pyramid scheme. If you think it is, then you may as well call ConquerClub a ponzi/pyramid scheme because the more people you convince to join CC, the more you are rewarded. Call the police!

(*This may not be true, so read the contract carefully. During a bankruptcy, they may label you as some owner of Solavei, so you may be liable for paying off the lenders--assuming Solavei borrowed money to first finance this business. I doubt this is the case though because even if you get paid per Trio, you still are not a owner, thus you're not liable. If you're a considered to be a 'shareholder', you'll be protected to some degree by limited liability laws. Either way, read and understand the contract.

[Symmetry]

Do you think Rockness got involved with some shady guys BBS? He's posting as if he's a pitching a business venture.

[Rockness]

As Solavei's customer base expands, it will become marginally less profitable for them to offer unlimited services, to not administer credit/background checks, and to payout the same $20/month per Trio. A Trio is three people who a customer has convinced to join. One receives additional bonuses for advancing up the ranks which are based on the number of Trios one has.

This state can only be true based on the type of contract Solavei has with T-Mobile, which owns the towers used for their 4G service. I doubt that they will eventually lose money based on another company that provides similar pricing for their service; Metro PCS.

[Rockness]

You are 100% correct Symmetry, this is a business venture! I see a great opportunity here to make money, it is part of what I do, I also invest in penny stocks and sell discount dental plans. I look for win-win situations all the time where me and others can share the wealth and take care of our families.

[Symmetry]

Do you think Rockness got involved with some shady guys BBS? He's posting as if he's a pitching a business venture.

You are 100% correct Symmetry, this is a business venture! I see a great opportunity here to make money, it is part of what I do, I also invest in penny stocks and sell discount dental plans. I look for win-win situations all the time where me and others can share the wealth and take care of our families.

When you say 100% correct, do you mean that you got involved with some shady guys as well as the business venture part?

[Symmetry]

Is this a cry for help?

[BigBallinStalin]

As Solavei's customer base expands, it will become marginally less profitable for them to offer unlimited services, to not administer credit/background checks, and to payout the same $20/month per Trio. A Trio is three people who a customer has convinced to join. One receives additional bonuses for advancing up the ranks which are based on the number of Trios one has.

This state can only be true based on the type of contract Solavei has with T-Mobile, which owns the towers used for their 4G service. I doubt that they will eventually lose money based on another company that provides similar pricing for their service; Metro PCS.

Right, that's a good point. This is captured in the "restructure their production process" part of my post.

As Solavei's customer base expands, they'll incur increasing marginal costs (which could result in a diminishing profit). Solavei will react by adjusting their prices to customers ($49/month, fees, Trio payments), and/or changing the production process (e.g. that contract with Verizon). In other words, as they get more customers, they face the prospect of losing money (by not being competitive enough--which requires restructuring of the production process or prices).

To use your example, as Solavei's customers increase, the bandwidth(?) from Solavei customers use of Verizon's infrastructure expands; therefore, Solavei will need to renogiate the contract (change in production process) and/OR they could change their prices.


My main point is that you should be aware of this possible change in your estimated future streams of income from recruiting customers to join. Your expected $20/month per three people could become $15/month per 4 people (or if they're successful) it could be $30/month per three people. Just be aware that your expected profits face this uncertainty.

[BigBallinStalin]

Do you think Rockness got involved with some shady guys BBS? He's posting as if he's a pitching a business venture.

Yes, he is posting about a plan that may be profitable.

Based on what I know about Solavei's business model, it is transparent. They offer cell phone service in exchange for $49.00/month + fees + taxes (from fed. and State govt), and they offer the customer $20/month for every three recruited customers. There's nothing wrong with that.

However, understanding the contract will enable one to label the owners of Solavei as potentially shady.

[Rockness]

You guys keeping using the word "shady" so here's my question. Taking away the business aspect of it all, if you look at Solavei as a service, Is it a bad business? From my point of view the service is worth every penny and more.

[john9blue]

i'd be more likely to purchase this service if your avatar wasn't a weird ghetto alien dude

[Rockness]

i'd be more likely to purchase this service if your avatar wasn't a weird ghetto alien dude

What are you talking about??? My avatar is a weird ghetto zombie dude! That should make a difference!