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karel wrote:no debate,guns are here to stay,its our right
riskllama wrote:Koolbak wins this thread.
karel wrote:no debate,guns are here to stay,its our right
KoolBak wrote:Because it's true....Shaddap Playa.
PLAYER57832 wrote:Now for many of us, those who are in favor of keeping gun rights, etc... that is a false question. Safety in guns is like safety on a bike or anything else. There are idiots and there are safe ways to do things. BUT, as long as we allow the Ted Nugents to stomp out and dismiss the very real concerns of parents, particularly moms-- even moms in hunting communities (sometimes especially them.. and if you live in one, you know what I mean. Having a gun does turn some sensible people into complete jerks!), as long as we dismiss the validity of this debate, there will be no communication, no resolution.
PLAYER57832 wrote:Here is the problem. Many people today have little or no knowledge of hunting.
Haggis_McMutton wrote:Ok, lemme first mention that I also think the US should have somewhat stricter gun control. You guys seem to have a fetish for the things.
However, the US has way bigger crime related problems than gun control.
I guess I'm gonna be the asshole here, but nationwide a kid shooting up a school is not a big deal. Does the fact that those kids died in the same building somehow make their deaths more significant than the X amount of people that are killed every day anyway?
I'm not gonna pretend to understand the societal, cultural, legislative and economic reasons that lead to the US having a homicide rate 2-5 times bigger than that in most civilised countries and a ridiculously high incarceration rate to boot, but I don't think stricter gun control will really even make a dent in these problems.
tzor wrote:
We all have the desire to feel "safe." But when people flip out, they flip out. There are lots of ways that a person can kill and seriously injure many people while venting his insane rage. Cars can be used to kill people; bombs can be used to kill people; and guns can be used to kill people. The real question is how we design those "safe" zones and how we ensure that those safe zones remain safe, within the bounds of reason.
DoomYoshi wrote:Primarily, when democracy fails, upon need a gun to ravage upon the people who are dictators.
natty_dread wrote:Do ponies have sex?
(proud member of the Occasionally Wrongly Banned)Army of GOD wrote:the term heterosexual is offensive. I prefer to be called "normal"
john9blue wrote:at this point, the US is saturated enough with guns that any large-scale attempt at gun control would just lead to a black market.
HapSmo19 wrote:Closing your loop-hole would be an even better step.
HapSmo19 wrote:Closing your loop-hole would be an even better step.
chang50 wrote:karel wrote:no debate,guns are here to stay,its our right
There you have it...'its our right'...regardless of the cost.So sad..
2dimes wrote:Ted Nugent speaking publicly is a caricature. In real life he's a hunter. I'm sure there has been many law enforcement people that wasted time keeping an eye on him for a while until they realized reality is not Television and more recently YouTube.
His point should be pretty obvious, guns in the hands of someone responsible with the point of view that they are his right is not a problem for anyone in reality.
2dimes wrote:You really should ask why everyone can't remain rational when tzor makes total sense here.tzor wrote:
We all have the desire to feel "safe." But when people flip out, they flip out. There are lots of ways that a person can kill and seriously injure many people while venting his insane rage. Cars can be used to kill people; bombs can be used to kill people; and guns can be used to kill people. The real question is how we design those "safe" zones and how we ensure that those safe zones remain safe, within the bounds of reason.
Guns are everywhere, go collect them they'll make more.
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