Ideas on how to prevent gun-related homicides in the US

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[Army of GOD]

ban blacks?








































attention everyone, that was a joke. Do not take it literally.

[crispybits]

I say we just take off and nuke the site from orbit.....

[Phatscotty]

Evidence indicates it's a joke

[_sabotage_]

Take the money out of crime from a governmental perspective. This will reduce the greatest amount of crime. Half of all arrests are drug based.

The more things you ban, the more institutions you set-up where governmental jobs are based on keeping a crime going rather than ending it.

All the requirements have the same effect...they just create agencies which form a part of the criminal empire.

Create production opportunities for all and take away barriers which set-up larger corporations especially those which reward a company which can afford lawyers and lobbyists. The more opportunity that people have, the less likely they will be to take a criminal route towards feeding their family.

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[Phatscotty]

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We should probably just make everything legal, because then there would be no "crimes" per say.

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[2dimes]

Can I get a transcript please? I don't watch videos.

Brief synopsis with parts missing.

Ted, "Anyone that wants to disarm me, can drop dead... Suck on my machine gun."
Piers, "Much as I'd love to suck on your machine gun. The whole point of your of your defence is a lot of people do drop dead, because you are armed to the teeth and you'd like everyone else to be. "
Ted, "You see you're so British.
Piers, "80 people a day are shot."
Ted, "75 of 'em to 78. By statistics from FBI crime something... 78 of the 80 are let out of their cages by corrupt judges and prosecuters... Kiss my ass."
Piers, "Yeah."
Ted, "Where you have the most armed citizens in America you have the lowest violent crime rate.."
Piers, "I understand but."
Ted, "Piers, choose one. You want more crime, we have it, gun free zones. You want less crime we've got that, more people with concealed carry permits. Why do you guys resist that statistic?"

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[_sabotage_]

We should probably just make everything legal, because then there would be no "crimes" per say.

Per se, BTW. Marijuana arrests are at 855,000 a year. The average cost of prosecuting a case is $9250. This is from a prosecution stand point and doesn't reflect cost associated with arrest and imprisonment. The police could reallocate a lot of resources, as well as the courts and prisons. So, instead of needing to privatize prisons and have judges be bribed by these profiteers into sending teenagers to prison (Pennsylvania), we could have a lot more room in prisons and save money there too.

Of course no one really cares that prisons escalate minor criminals into full fledged offenders, that only drug offenders aren't able to apply for student loans, or that the arrest record follows them and makes these marijuana possessors less able to fit into society, unable to vote and looked down upon in general and therefore more prone to do crime.

The other point is that these arrests, which are often hidden in reports, as can be seen by the FBI incarceration index, which states incarceration down to the last one for most other crimes but says nothing about drug-related charges, break up families, have kids put into the system as foster children at an early age and also make parents more likely to pass the drug charge onto their youngster to avoid a strike, the heavy penalty of a repeat offense, or just use the system which grants first timers leeway, puts children in a position to become numb to the harshness of jail at an early age, question the government and grow disenchanted from a very early age.

But, yes please insist on the illegality of drugs. Insist that these 855,000 arrests are of terrible people who should face the full wrath of social stigmata and punishment.

[Phatscotty]

Can I get a transcript please? I don't watch videos.

Brief synopsis with parts missing.

Ted, "Anyone that wants to disarm me, can drop dead... Suck on my machine gun."
Piers, "Much as I'd love to suck on your machine gun. The whole point of your of your defence is a lot of people do drop dead, because you are armed to the teeth and you'd like everyone else to be. "
Ted, "You see you're so British.
Piers, "80 people a day are shot."
Ted, "75 of 'em to 78. By statistics from FBI crime something... 78 of the 80 are let out of their cages by corrupt judges and prosecuters... Kiss my ass."
Piers, "Yeah."
Ted, "Where you have the most armed citizens in America you have the lowest violent crime rate.."
Piers, "I understand but."
Ted, "Piers, choose one. You want more crime, we have it, gun free zones. You want less crime we've got that, more people with concealed carry permits. Why do you guys resist that statistic?"

How is this relevant to the list I'm creating? Is PS just trolling again?

Idea how to prevent crime: less "gun free" murder zones

[Funkyterrance]

It's been proven that tighter family units= less crime so I suppose force people to spend more quality time with their families "or else".

[saxitoxin]

Look for patterns that correlate to high crime and then eliminate those patterns.

In the OECD, the 10 nations with the highest number of violent assaults per 100,000 people have all appeared in the World Cup finals recently:

1. Sweden - 927 violent assaults per 100K
2. UK - 730 violent assaults per 100K
3. Belgium - 718 violent assaults per 100K
4. Israel - 641 violent assaults per 100K
5. Germany - 630 violent assaults per 100K
6. Finland - 615 violent assaults per 100K
7. Chile - 576 violent assaults per 100K
8. Luxembourg - 476 violent assaults per 100K
9. Ireland - 353 violent assaults per 100K
10. Netherlands - 352 violent assaults per 100K

http://www.civitas.org.uk/crime/crime_s ... an2012.pdf


In the OECD, the 5 nations with the highest number of homicides per 100,000 people, also have fewer psychiatrists than the OECD average:

1. Mexico - 18.1 murders per 100K
2. Estonia - 5.2 murders per 100K
3. USA - 5 murders per 100K
4. Chile - 3.7 murders 100K
5. Turkey - 3.3 murders per 100K

http://www.civitas.org.uk/crime/crime_s ... an2012.pdf
http://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/sites/heal ... 06-01.html

Two of the three Rape Centers of the World are in Oceania (Australia #1 and New Zealand #3 ... Sweden is #2). Australia's rape rate is nearly 4 times that of nations outside the top 3 ... it's essentially impossible to live in Australia without someone trying to stick something in your pooper.


http://www.civitas.org.uk/crime/crime_s ... an2012.pdf

Four of the five nations with the highest burglary levels speak an Iberian language (Spain, Mexico, Chile, Portugal). Belgium is the fifth.


http://www.civitas.org.uk/crime/crime_s ... an2012.pdf

New Zealand is the car theft capital of the world. It is also the filming location for 8 of Peter Jackson's last 14 films.

http://www.civitas.org.uk/crime/crime_s ... an2012.pdf

Solution:

1. Ban Firearms.
2. Hire more psychiatrists.
3. Withdraw from FIFA
4. Ban Peter Jackson from filming in the U.S.
5. Ban Spanish and Portuguese from being spoken in the U.S.
6. Discourage Australians, New Zealanders and Swedes from visiting the U.S. Tell the Australians and NZers that Disneyland is closed. Tell the Swedes that Minnesota is closed.

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[stahrgazer]

I like Carlin's idea (may he rest in peace.)

Fence off four square states. I think it was: Mass murderers in one, pedos in another, gang members in another, abusers in another. Provide them with guns and plenty of ammo. Open small gates every so often between the four gated segments, holding a lottery about how many will get through before the gates shut.

Let these violent criminals enjoy themselves by killing each other off while they take care of our prison overcrowding problems.

Have pay-per-view beheadings, and again a lottery to guess which bucket the head will roll into.

Use the lottery and pay-per-view monies to pay off the national debt.

The "death penalty" isn't a deterrent if it takes us 25 years to execute someone.

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[stahrgazer]

I like Carlin's idea (may he rest in peace.)

Fence off four square states. I think it was: Mass murderers in one, pedos in another, gang members in another, abusers in another. Provide them with guns and plenty of ammo. Open small gates every so often between the four gated segments, holding a lottery about how many will get through before the gates shut.

Let these violent criminals enjoy themselves by killing each other off while they take care of our prison overcrowding problems.

Have pay-per-view beheadings, and again a lottery to guess which bucket the head will roll into.

Use the lottery and pay-per-view monies to pay off the national debt.

So....

• Required Gladiatorism for criminals

Hey, we look like Rome in a lot of other ways these days, why not this?

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Legalize prostitution

It's not like there aren't prostitutes, just give them a chance to get their own money, instead of pimps getting the money. This will also allow them to be licensed with regular checkups, thereby lowering STDs.

[saxitoxin]

Something about causation and correlation.
Solution:

1. Ban Firearms.
2. Hire more psychiatrists.
3. Withdraw from FIFA
4. Ban Peter Jackson from filming in the U.S.
5. Ban Spanish and Portuguese from being spoken in the U.S.
6. Discourage Australians, New Zealanders and Swedes from visiting the U.S. Tell the Australians and NZers that Disneyland is closed. Tell the Swedes that Minnesota is closed.

I think we already have the first two items in the list. I don't see how the following 4 are relevant to our list.

There's no correlation between Assault - which is 60 times more common than Homicide - and Firearms or Psychiatrists. Britain has a violent assault rate 1,500% that of gun-happy Austria (and 300% of the US). Their rape, burglary, robbery and auto theft crime rates are at Clockwork Orange levels.

Is this a thread about preventing crime or preventing homicide?

Do you prefer to live in a society in which 50 people are beaten to within an inch of their life so they spend the next 30 years in a wheelchair attached to a colostomy bag or do you prefer to live in a society in which 1 person is murdered? (Personal preference; there's no right or wrong answer.)

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[saxitoxin]

Something about causation and correlation.
Solution:

1. Ban Firearms.
2. Hire more psychiatrists.
3. Withdraw from FIFA
4. Ban Peter Jackson from filming in the U.S.
5. Ban Spanish and Portuguese from being spoken in the U.S.
6. Discourage Australians, New Zealanders and Swedes from visiting the U.S. Tell the Australians and NZers that Disneyland is closed. Tell the Swedes that Minnesota is closed.

I think we already have the first two items in the list. I don't see how the following 4 are relevant to our list.

Is this a thread about preventing crime or preventing homicide?

There does seem to exist a discontinuity. We need to resolve this before we pursue further. We must clearly identify our objective before we can ever seek to resolve it. The list is already pretty long and I think it seems to pertain to gun-related homicides. Should this perhaps be renamed? Can any help to refine our parameters?

Before discussing if more resources should be devoted to preventing a problem, one should determine if the problem actually exists. The U.S. has a below-average crime rate in every category of crime the OECD tracks, except the statistically rarest one - murder.

The narrative of high crime based on one data point is how the dominant white power structure rallies the population to support the introduction of the apparatus' of oppression - more police, more prisons, more laws.

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