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Lord of the Rings

Postby bedub1 on Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:44 pm

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Re: Lord of the Rings

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:55 pm

I've never read the books, and I've only seen the Hobbit, since some buddies of mine wanted to see it and I didn't have much else better to do.

It did make me want to pickup Skyrim again.


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Re: Lord of the Rings

Postby rdsrds2120 on Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:57 pm

bedub1, rdsrds2120 wrote:I thought the books were boring. I thought the movies were terrible. I know I'm in the minority. Anybody else tired of LOTR shit?
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Re: Lord of the Rings

Postby ManBungalow on Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:01 pm

I don't know, but whoever built Osgiliath liek 300m away from Minas Morgul had some serious misconceptions about product design.
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Re: Lord of the Rings

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:01 pm

u r all dum

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Re: Lord of the Rings

Postby Gilligan on Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:16 pm

The movies are fantastic.

I plan to read the books sometime soon.
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Re: Lord of the Rings

Postby bedub1 on Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:45 pm

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Re: Lord of the Rings

Postby Dukasaur on Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:49 pm

The movies were okay, but the books are what makes it.
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Re: Lord of the Rings

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:53 pm

bedub1 wrote:
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:u r all dum

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Please no personal attacks. I also find it funny coming from somebody that only got 1 out of 4 words right.


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Re: Lord of the Rings

Postby Gillipig on Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:11 pm

bedub1 wrote:
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:u r all dum

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Please no personal attacks. I also find it funny coming from somebody that only got 1 out of 4 words right.

He's speaking swenglish perfectly! "dum" is the correct spelling of "dumb" in swedish, "u", "r" doesn't mean anything at all just like in english, and "all" would be a mispelling of the swedish word "alla" which means "all". He's managed to very precisely create a sentence equally much/(little) english as swedish. Coincidence, I think not.
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Re: Lord of the Rings

Postby Army of GOD on Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:20 pm

Never read the books. Started the first one but I couldn't finish the first chapter...didn't like the writing style at all.

The movies however are, in my opinion, the best of my generation (90s to now). What they did with the battle scenes (specifically Helm's Deep and then Minas Tirith) are beyond comprehension and pretty much made me want to jerk off in the movie theater.
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Re: Lord of the Rings

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:23 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:
bedub1 wrote:
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:u r all dum

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Please no personal attacks. I also find it funny coming from somebody that only got 1 out of 4 words right.


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Re: Lord of the Rings

Postby Fruitcake on Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:29 pm

Simon Tolkien is a very good writer. Went to school with him (although he is of a later vintage by a couple of years).

I recently read his latest novel 'Orders from Berlin' which was quite gripping. However, I think one needs to be of British origin to really appreciate the story.

In my opinion, JRR was one of the literary greats. Lord of the Rings was given to me when I was 11 years old, I have read the 3 books at least 4 times over the decades.

Any one who suffered the pain and agony of watching the cartoon adaptation of the first part of the trilogy will have welcomed the more recent films with open arms.
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Re: Lord of the Rings

Postby thegreekdog on Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:31 pm

Fruitcake wrote:Simon Tolkien is a very good writer. Went to school with him (although he is of a later vintage by a couple of years).

I recently read his latest novel 'Orders from Berlin' which was quite gripping. However, I think one needs to be of British origin to really appreciate the story.

In my opinion, JRR was one of the literary greats. Lord of the Rings was given to me when I was 11 years old, I have read the 3 books at least 4 times over the decades.

Any one who suffered the pain and agony of watching the cartoon adaptation of the first part of the trilogy will have welcomed the more recent films with open arms.


Which adaptation? There was The Hobbit (done in "regular" animation). There was The Lord of the Rings Part I(which was done in some weird animation, which is likely what you're referring to). Then there was Return of the King (back to regular animation).

I've read The Hobbit once when I was young. I read LOTR once when I was a teenager and once in college. I will read it again soon, but my stack of books to read is enormous. It's a wonderful story and sometimes, when I read modern fantasy novels, I long for the days where authors described a tree in three paragraphs.
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Re: Lord of the Rings

Postby Fruitcake on Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:35 pm

thegreekdog wrote:
Fruitcake wrote:Simon Tolkien is a very good writer. Went to school with him (although he is of a later vintage by a couple of years).

I recently read his latest novel 'Orders from Berlin' which was quite gripping. However, I think one needs to be of British origin to really appreciate the story.

In my opinion, JRR was one of the literary greats. Lord of the Rings was given to me when I was 11 years old, I have read the 3 books at least 4 times over the decades.

Any one who suffered the pain and agony of watching the cartoon adaptation of the first part of the trilogy will have welcomed the more recent films with open arms.


Which adaptation? There was The Hobbit (done in "regular" animation). There was The Lord of the Rings Part I(which was done in some weird animation, which is likely what you're referring to). Then there was Return of the King (back to regular animation).

I've read The Hobbit once when I was young. I read LOTR once when I was a teenager and once in college. I will read it again soon, but my stack of books to read is enormous. It's a wonderful story and sometimes, when I read modern fantasy novels, I long for the days where authors described a tree in three paragraphs.


Yes I meant that awful 1978 adaptation.
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Re: Lord of the Rings

Postby thegreekdog on Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:48 pm

Fruitcake wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
Fruitcake wrote:Simon Tolkien is a very good writer. Went to school with him (although he is of a later vintage by a couple of years).

I recently read his latest novel 'Orders from Berlin' which was quite gripping. However, I think one needs to be of British origin to really appreciate the story.

In my opinion, JRR was one of the literary greats. Lord of the Rings was given to me when I was 11 years old, I have read the 3 books at least 4 times over the decades.

Any one who suffered the pain and agony of watching the cartoon adaptation of the first part of the trilogy will have welcomed the more recent films with open arms.


Which adaptation? There was The Hobbit (done in "regular" animation). There was The Lord of the Rings Part I(which was done in some weird animation, which is likely what you're referring to). Then there was Return of the King (back to regular animation).

I've read The Hobbit once when I was young. I read LOTR once when I was a teenager and once in college. I will read it again soon, but my stack of books to read is enormous. It's a wonderful story and sometimes, when I read modern fantasy novels, I long for the days where authors described a tree in three paragraphs.


Yes I meant that awful 1978 adaptation.


Aragorn looked like a 60-year-old Native American. What a great horrible movie.
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Re: Lord of the Rings

Postby Dukasaur on Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:03 pm

Fruitcake wrote:In my opinion, JRR was one of the literary greats. Lord of the Rings was given to me when I was 11 years old, I have read the 3 books at least 4 times over the decades.

Any one who suffered the pain and agony of watching the cartoon adaptation of the first part of the trilogy will have welcomed the more recent films with open arms.

I beg to differ. Visually, of course, the cartoon adaptations left a lot to be desired, but in other ways I thought they were better to the modern adaptations.

The cartoons (and especially the Return of the King cartoon version) were full of song and humour and human warmth, just like the books. The live action movies were just war movies, with 90% of the scenes being endless combat and all the good scenes in between being cut down to ten seconds.

So many beautiful songs Tolkien put in the books, and not one was used in the movies.

So many warm and friendly feelings were exchanged in the books, but in the movies everyone is stern and boastful all the time (probably because they're either just returning from a battle scene or on their way to a battle scene.)

The books were about the hobbits first, Gandalf second, and the elves third. The movies were about Aragorn first, the hobbits second, and Gandalf third.

Gimli, Boromir, and my very favourite character from the books, Theoden, were all reduced to caricatures in the movies. Gimli was treated as comic relief, instead of the profound symbol of steadfastness that he was in the books. Boromir and Theoden, likewise, lost all their majesty and were treated terribly. Denethor also. Only his evil side was portrayed in the movies; his deep wisdom and the long struggle of many cares that led to his madness was completely omitted.

Anyway, I don't think the cartoons were great, either, but I think they were more faithful to the spirit of the boosk.
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Re: Lord of the Rings

Postby Army of GOD on Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:08 pm

>just war movies
>good scenes cut down

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Re: Lord of the Rings

Postby notyou2 on Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:14 pm

I have read the LOTR around 6 times and always read the Hobbit first. They are my favourite books.

I haven't seen The Hobbit yet. I liked the LOTR movies but I enjoyed the books even more.
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Re: Lord of the Rings

Postby BigBallinStalin on Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:52 am

(1) Not enough of the good guys died.
(2) They always got away in the most unlikely of scenarios--like the G.I. Joes.
(3) Wearing the ring was similar to the Christian warning of being tempted into doing evil, so whenever Frodo/Bilbo wore the ring, I interpreted this as their masturbating in order to bring some much needed humor to the books.
(4) The movies? Blurry CGI and lonnggg drawn-out scenes with okay acting in CGI backgrounds is boring. The LOTR movies were impressive solely because they were the only movies to put me to sleep.
(5) Tolkien did have a knack for setting up scenes and for crafting a complete story though.
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Re: Lord of the Rings

Postby Gillipig on Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:51 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:(1) Not enough of the good guys died.
(2) They always got away in the most unlikely of scenarios--like the G.I. Joes.
(3) Wearing the ring was similar to the Christian warning of being tempted into doing evil, so whenever Frodo/Bilbo wore the ring, I interpreted this as their masturbating in order to bring some much needed humor to the books.
(4) The movies? Blurry CGI and lonnggg drawn-out scenes with okay acting in CGI backgrounds is boring. The LOTR movies were impressive solely because they were the only movies to put me to sleep.
(5) Tolkien did have a knack for setting up scenes and for crafting a complete story though.

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Re: Lord of the Rings

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:53 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:whenever Frodo/Bilbo wore the ring, I interpreted this as their masturbating

Army of God wrote:pretty much made me want to jerk off in the movie theater




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Re: Lord of the Rings

Postby aage on Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:01 am

Gilligan wrote:The movies are fantastic.

I plan to read the books sometime soon.

If you enjoyed the movies, chances are you're not going like the books. Conversation is stale, you'll drown in poetry and combat is almost non-existent.
Don't take me wrong, I love the books, but I think you have to completely forget about the movies if you're going to read the book. Otherwise, you will be disappointed.

If you enjoy fantasy literature with a little more spice I advise you to read RR Martin's work. You know, that papery version of Game of Thrones. With all the sex.
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Re: Lord of the Rings

Postby thegreekdog on Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:27 am

aage wrote:
Gilligan wrote:The movies are fantastic.

I plan to read the books sometime soon.

If you enjoyed the movies, chances are you're not going like the books. Conversation is stale, you'll drown in poetry and combat is almost non-existent.
Don't take me wrong, I love the books, but I think you have to completely forget about the movies if you're going to read the book. Otherwise, you will be disappointed.

If you enjoy fantasy literature with a little more spice I advise you to read RR Martin's work. You know, that papery version of Game of Thrones. With all the sex.


I liked both the books and the movies.

And if you like Martin, you should also read Joe Abercrombie, Glenn Cook, Steven Erikson, and Scott Bakker (who are all better writers than Martin in my opinion).
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Re: Lord of the Rings

Postby aage on Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:53 am

thegreekdog wrote:
aage wrote:
Gilligan wrote:The movies are fantastic.

I plan to read the books sometime soon.

If you enjoyed the movies, chances are you're not going like the books. Conversation is stale, you'll drown in poetry and combat is almost non-existent.
Don't take me wrong, I love the books, but I think you have to completely forget about the movies if you're going to read the book. Otherwise, you will be disappointed.

If you enjoy fantasy literature with a little more spice I advise you to read RR Martin's work. You know, that papery version of Game of Thrones. With all the sex.


I liked both the books and the movies.

And if you like Martin, you should also read Joe Abercrombie, Glenn Cook, Steven Erikson, and Scott Bakker (who are all better writers than Martin in my opinion).

Which of the first three would you recommend to check out first?
(I looked at Bakker's 2nd Apocalypse wiki page (or rather, Prince of Nothing's, since 2nd has no page), it didn't exactly grasp my interest.)
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