According to IMDB, Django Unchained=best of 2012

[Haggis_McMutton]

So I just watched Django and I'm disappointed.

Tarantino's worst movie imo.

Have you seen Death Proof (within Grindhouse 2007)?

Yeah, that was my least favourite Tarantino flick prior to Django.

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Django was much closer to mainstream Hollywood bullshit. The main difference is that it was the white guy who got killed at the end rather than the black guy.

f*ck anyone that says anything bad about Django

You've got to admit that compared to Reservoir Dogs or Pulp Fiction Django is pretty much dog shit that was re-eaten by the dog and eventually puked up on your nice carpet.

[Neoteny]

I saw Inglorious Basterds and came away from it with the idea that QT literally used Nazis because they are easy. Nobody is really going to complain about gratuitously killing Nazis. Kill Bill has the same thing, but with that condescending Girl Power thing sprinkled on top. He got a free pass with Dusk til Dawn, but you only get one of those. I worry that Django Unchained is going to be in the same boat, just with slave owners. Pulp Fiction and Reservoir dogs tackled their violence a bit more responsibly (and were better movies by many other measures than the other three that I mentioned I've seen). Maybe QT has accepted being pigeonholed into the senseless violence genre, but what I liked about his older stuff was that he put the violence into a context that speaks well.

I'll probably watch Django and find it enjoyable enough, but then never watch it again.

[Neoteny]

Fwiw, my least favorite Tarantino movie is from Dusk til Dawn. I spent the whole movie pondering how a movie with decent acting and some amusing writing can still be so atrociously boring.

[Army of GOD]

I don't necessarily consider From Dusk Til Dawn to be a Tarantino even though he wrote the screenplay.

After Jackie Brown Tarantino started putting a lot more action and less plot into his movies (Kill Bill: get revenge; Inglorious: killin' Natzees; Django: kill white people) but I think, despite the different direction, his later movies are still incredibly enjoyable. And it's not like I'll suck any director's dick for some action because there are a lot of modern films that suck giant testicles despite having action. I just love Tarantino's brand of it. He knows how to make action artistic. This is how I order Tarantino's films:

Resevoir Dogs
Pulp Fiction
Django
Kill Bill 1
Inglorious
Kill Bill 2
Jackie Brown
Death Proof

And I loved Death Proof too.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

I would rate thus:

Pulp Fiction
Resevoir Dogs
Jackie Brown
Four Rooms

Then a pile of so-so that I watched once and kinda enjoyed but won't watch again:
Kill Bill 1&2
Inglorious

Hated:
Death Proof

Haven't seen:
Django

I liked From Dusk 'til Dawn because it's hilarious and Tarantino was fucking creepy as hell. Best scene is when they knock down Cheech and then kick him and he's whining about it.

-TG

[Haggis_McMutton]

See, to me, there's a big difference between Django and Inglorious regarding how each movie portrays it's villains.

I thought Inglorious went to great pains to give a human side to the nazis and thus f*ck with your expectations. Consider the bar scene with the guy celebrating his kid's birth or the whole Shosanna/Zoller thing or the fact that intelligent and brave nazis are shown many times in the movie.

Take this scene:



If you remove the labels, who ends up looking like the hero here?


Anyway, Django had none of that. Just straight up: were killing the bad guys who are stupid, selfish and cowardly.

[aage]

Comparing Django to Pulp Fiction seems wrong, though. Pulp Fiction has no pure bad guys (except maybe the cop and his buttbuddy), while Django (and also Ing.Basterds) have very clear "bad guys" and "good guys". Of course our politically correct world has to empathize with the black people that are being whipped, and of course the criminal scum has to die. But f*ck that. I expect character development when I go see a Tarantino movie. That's why the others are so good, and that's why this one was poor. Why did the German doctor guy shoot Leonardo? Because he wouldn't be able to afford a living anyway after coughing up 12k? Maybe, but he had gotten 11.5k off a single bounty and the story implies many of these instances occur. Because he was so angry and unleashed his fury upon the guy that was mocking him like a kid? He has been doing acts like these for years, there is no reason why this would be different. Because he thought the guy deserved to die for the way his dogs treat his slaves? This is the implied option but I still don't know why he extracts retribution where it can only lead to self-destruction. The doctor is a bounty hunter because he is a survivor, not because he's a hot-headed suicidal maniac.

This stuff bothers me.

I thought Inglorious went to great pains to give a human side to the nazis and thus f*ck with your expectations. Consider the bar scene with the guy celebrating his kid's birth or the whole Shosanna/Zoller thing or the fact that intelligent and brave nazis are shown many times in the movie.

Take this scene:

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If you remove the labels, who ends up looking like the hero here?


Anyway, Django had none of that. Just straight up: were killing the bad guys who are stupid, selfish and cowardly.

That white bag scene in Django had a little of that. The overly forced absurdness of the scene put me off a lot, though.
Also, Waltz' character in Basterds was not one to be sympathized with, only to be admired, and maybe feared a little too. He clearly was the selfish bastard everyone's supposed to hate.

[BigBallinStalin]

So I just watched Django and I'm disappointed.

Tarantino's worst movie imo.

Have you seen Death Proof (within Grindhouse 2007)?

Yeah, that was my least favourite Tarantino flick prior to Django.

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Django was much closer to mainstream Hollywood bullshit. The main difference is that it was the white guy who got killed at the end rather than the black guy.

I agree with you about Kurt Russell's character, but I really really really wanted the female characters to die much sooner. That incessant chatter for 30+ minutes was driving me up the wall. It wasn't much character development, but more of QT seeing how long he can get people to watch 30+ minutes of crap-chat.

I haven't seen Django, but it's likely that seeing a spoiler won't really matter. Why? Because the underlined has been QT's trend:

f*ck anyone that says anything bad about Django

You've got to admit that compared to Reservoir Dogs or Pulp Fiction Django is pretty much dog shit that was re-eaten by the dog and eventually puked up on your nice carpet.

[BigBallinStalin]

Fwiw, my least favorite Tarantino movie is from Dusk til Dawn. I spent the whole movie pondering how a movie with decent acting and some amusing writing can still be so atrociously boring.

That was directed by Robert Rodriguez. QT did a portion of the screenwriting, and some acting. Just sayin'.

(Come on! From Dusk Til Dawn has one of the most intense gun-play scenes in the beginning or so. And, I saw that movie without knowing anything about its story. Nothing. It was perhaps the most enjoyable surprise I've had from a film. But, I'll admit that I've only seen it once, which says something).

[Neoteny]

Fwiw, my least favorite Tarantino movie is from Dusk til Dawn. I spent the whole movie pondering how a movie with decent acting and some amusing writing can still be so atrociously boring.

That was directed by Robert Rodriguez. QT did a portion of the screenwriting, and some acting. Just sayin'.

(Come on! From Dusk Til Dawn has one of the most intense gun-play scenes in the beginning or so. And, I saw that movie without knowing anything about its story. Nothing. It was perhaps the most enjoyable surprise I've had from a film. But, I'll admit that I've only seen it once, which says something).

I still count it. You could tell where QT's better contributions are in it too, but I really couldn't get into it.

[Army of GOD]

The only bad thing about QT's movies are his cameos. Seriously, he's a horrible actor.

[Neoteny]

The only bad thing about QT's movies are his cameos. Seriously, he's a horrible actor.

+1. Maybe 2.

I feel the only reason he was so good at being creepy in DtD was because he is actually creepy.

[BigBallinStalin]

The only bad thing about QT's movies are his cameos. Seriously, he's a horrible actor.

+1. Maybe 2.

I feel the only reason he was so good at being creepy in DtD was because he is actually creepy.

That and he wanted the opportunity to say, "dead nigger storage," on camera.

[nagerous]

thegreekdog's Top Five Movies from 2012 (the ones that I saw):

(1) The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
(2) Batman: The Dark Knight
(3) The Muppet Movie
(4) Sesame Street: Elmo's Big Adventure

I only saw four movies in 2012, so that's all I'm posting here. I saw Return of the King and The Dark Knight prior to 2012, but they were worth an additional watch in 2012. The Muppet Movie was disappointing. Elmo's Big Adventure was straight crap.

Is this what having kids does to you?