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Postby Nobunaga on Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:08 pm

2dimes wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:It's got a really icky tone to it like the US is some sort of specimen to be looked at down one's nose or gawked at like a curiosity.

Wait, you make it sound like our trips to your country to "observe" would end in dissapointment.

You need to take a vacation somewhere with a Golden Corral. It's kind of like dinner theatre with addictive chemically inhanced food. We've seen people over 500 pounds, right there at a nearby table on every trip, it's awesome! One particularly large fellow had a buddy there acting as a sort of runner/waiter going to fetch plates piled high. We have overweight people here, I am one but not on the same scale.


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Postby 2dimes on Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:42 pm

Well enough of it can. I'm not suggesting you won't die of shock or infection with a bullet deep in there. Or you know a MASSIVE coronary because your heart was buried in "Happiness" from Golden Corral.
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Re: US Schoolkids to get Body Armour

Postby Funkyterrance on Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:35 am

I know a lot of non-obese people and I know a few obese people but I didn't realize it was a distinctly American trait. I always figured it was more or less a situational thing.
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Re: US Schoolkids to get Body Armour

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:37 am

How is a backpack "body armor"?

Your title implies all school children are going to be handed out "body armor" but really it's just one guy that came up with the idea for bulletproof backpacks.

Troll thread.
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Re: US Schoolkids to get Body Armour

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:39 am

Funkyterrance wrote:
Symmetry wrote:I guess I just find the idea of a nation where 5 year old kids need to wear bulletproof clothing kind of depressing.

In other words, Woody spoiled your troll?


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Re: US Schoolkids to get Body Armour

Postby Symmetry on Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:40 am

Funkyterrance wrote:I know a lot of non-obese people and I know a few obese people but I didn't realize it was a distinctly American trait. I always figured it was more or less a situational thing.


Welcome back to the thread. You and me ok now?
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Re: US Schoolkids to get Body Armour

Postby Funkyterrance on Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:55 am

Symmetry wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:I know a lot of non-obese people and I know a few obese people but I didn't realize it was a distinctly American trait. I always figured it was more or less a situational thing.


Welcome back to the thread. You and me ok now?

Sure, why not.
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Re: US Schoolkids to get Body Armour

Postby Symmetry on Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:59 am

Funkyterrance wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Welcome back to the thread. You and me ok now?

Sure, why not.


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Re: US Schoolkids to get Body Armour

Postby Nobunaga on Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:33 am

Funkyterrance wrote:I know a lot of non-obese people and I know a few obese people but I didn't realize it was a distinctly American trait. I always figured it was more or less a situational thing.


Lots of really fat guys in Germany.
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Re: US Schoolkids to get Body Armour

Postby Woodruff on Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:06 am

Nobunaga wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:I know a lot of non-obese people and I know a few obese people but I didn't realize it was a distinctly American trait. I always figured it was more or less a situational thing.


Lots of really fat guys in Germany.


It's true there are a lot of pretty hefty guys in Germany (ladies too). But they are almost always middle-aged and older, rather than kids (which is where America's problem with obesity primarily lies, in my opinion).
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Re: US Schoolkids to get Body Armour

Postby Nobunaga on Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:30 am

Woodruff wrote:
Nobunaga wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:I know a lot of non-obese people and I know a few obese people but I didn't realize it was a distinctly American trait. I always figured it was more or less a situational thing.


Lots of really fat guys in Germany.


It's true there are a lot of pretty hefty guys in Germany (ladies too). But they are almost always middle-aged and older, rather than kids (which is where America's problem with obesity primarily lies, in my opinion).


You are right about that. Goes back to the parents not living up to their responsibilities thing. Raising kids who will one day tax the healthcare system with billions in costs, and who will live shorter, inactive lives.
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Postby 2dimes on Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:35 am

You have to see it. I'm not kidding the people we spotted had to be over 500 pounds. I have never seen that except on television or the Golden Corral. A buffet restaurant that's quite inexpensive. Like $10.99 or something.

500 pounds is like obese plus.

You guys are on to something, Here's a German example of what I'm talking about. We never get to see guys this big here.

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Re: US Schoolkids to get Body Armour

Postby Woodruff on Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:57 am

Nobunaga wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Nobunaga wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:I know a lot of non-obese people and I know a few obese people but I didn't realize it was a distinctly American trait. I always figured it was more or less a situational thing.


Lots of really fat guys in Germany.


It's true there are a lot of pretty hefty guys in Germany (ladies too). But they are almost always middle-aged and older, rather than kids (which is where America's problem with obesity primarily lies, in my opinion).


You are right about that. Goes back to the parents not living up to their responsibilities thing. Raising kids who will one day tax the healthcare system with billions in costs, and who will live shorter, inactive lives.


Definitely parents are a large part of it. Also things like PE no longer getting as many required credit hours in the schools. Plus the whole video game industry (which I buy into myself a great deal) and television make it far more tempting NOT to be physically active than when I was a kid. When I was young, there wasn't that much on television to really interest me outside of Saturday morning cartoons and sometimes sports (but even the sports were very limited), so going outside and playing really was easily the best option. My parents never had to even suggest it. It's a lot easier for kids not to make that choice these days.
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Postby Woodruff on Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:59 am

2dimes wrote:You have to see it. I'm not kidding the people we spotted had to be over 500 pounds.


My father-in-law is 5'4" and more than 400 pounds. In fact, my wife's whole family is sort of like that (though none quite that bad). When my wife weighed 180 pounds before she started her diet, she was still considered "the tiny one in the family". Pretty sad. Happily (for her), that's actually what motivated her to start her diet...she didn't want to fit in that well.
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Postby BigBallinStalin on Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:56 pm

2dimes wrote:As long as that means I isn't.

BBS, kids, and are you considering a backpack for them?


I may be considering in for them what then!
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Postby 2dimes on Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:54 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
2dimes wrote:As long as that means I isn't.

BBS, kids do you have children, and are you considering a backpack for them?


I may be considering in for them what then!

It's been one of those weeks.
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Re: US Schoolkids to get Body Armour

Postby thegreekdog on Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:43 pm

Haggis_McMutton wrote:not to disrupt the (pretend or not) economical discussion but I think some (probably pretend) psychology might be more interesting.

How do people evaluate the amount they are willing to spend to protect against something? Ideally it would be some simple expectation of damage calculation a'la (probability of getting into a car crash X probability the car crash isn't minor) directly correlates to amount willing to spend to avoid said car crash.

Clearly it doesn't work like that though. I'm guessing the real valuation has something to do with how often we hear about the events, presumably because our monkey brains think that how often we hear about something correlates with how often that thing actually happens, and it probably also has something to do with how horrific the possibility is perceived as being. Of course the incentive media has towards sensationalism completely fucks us in regards to that first factor, as they're encouraged to repeatedly broadcast the most unlikely of occurrences. And the 2nd one probably isn't too great either in that I'm not sure it's really more "horrific" to get killed in a school shooting than it is to get killed in a car accident.

What's my point? hell if I know, I just like to ramble.


Here's my question: would you pay $200 to $400* to potentially save you from a one in a billion (estimated) chance of your kid being shot in school? Could I also sell you lightning insurance? No? Shark insurance? You live in Montana? Hmm... zombie insurance?

* I don't care if the money is given directly to the private company who then gives a portion of it to the government in taxes or if the money is given to the government who gives it to the private company who then gives a portion of it to the government in taxes.
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Postby Lootifer on Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:38 pm

Funkyterrance wrote:
Symmetry wrote:It's pretty much the title of the article dude, you should read the OP before you go off on one.

Yeah and whoever wrote the article was trolling too. It's got a really icky tone to it like the US is some sort of specimen to be looked at down one's nose or gawked at like a curiosity. Not to mention it's just so incredibly flimsy. You should just read the tabloids sym, you'd get more bang for your buck.

Hate to tell you this but thats, rightly or wrongly, kinda how the rest of the world views the US.

I'm not going to tell you you cant have guns or your constitution is wrong or anything like that; thats unfair and not my place. But that aint going to stop me from thinking you guys are fucked up for wanting/needing to protect your children with bullet proof backpacks.
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Postby 2dimes on Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:48 pm

Have you been to the Golden Corr er.. the US Loot? You probably would enjoy it.

I just watched that YouTube. Dude in the cover shot wasn't nearly as huge as he looked in the still.
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Postby Lootifer on Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:01 pm

2dimes wrote:Have you been to the Golden Corr er.. the US Loot? You probably would enjoy it.

I just watched that YouTube. Dude in the cover shot wasn't nearly as huge as he looked in the still.

Yeah spent a short amount of time in New York and Anaheim. However judging the obesity of the US population by those two locations would be pretty unfair i'd suspect lol.

One thing that does stand out though: I ordered a side of broccoli at a ribs restaurant; it would be fairer to call it a side of butter with a little broccoli.
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Postby 2dimes on Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:11 pm

There are quite a few places where I can't believe the portions and I was a big eater that used to complain about portions at restaurants here when I was younger.

There were a few places in Oregon where we took maybe over a third of the meal out of the restaurant.

Most Americans are just a bit big, I fit right in, but they have some grand champions there for sure. Where you get worried, "I must be starring."
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Re: US Schoolkids to get Body Armour

Postby Lootifer on Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:23 pm

Haha, nah, I have no problem gawking.

Interestingly NZ and Australia are front runners (reverse pun!) on obesity as well so bit like the pot calling the kettle black...
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Re: US Schoolkids to get Body Armour

Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:13 pm

Lootifer wrote:Haha, nah, I have no problem gawking.

Interestingly NZ and Australia are front runners (reverse pun!) on obesity as well so bit like the pot calling the kettle fat...


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Re: US Schoolkids to get Body Armour

Postby Gillipig on Thu May 02, 2013 8:57 am

Symmetry wrote:I guess I just find the idea of a nation where 5 year old kids need to wear bulletproof clothing kind of depressing.

Aye, I'm with you on that Sym.
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