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Re: Nothing about Jason Collins?

Postby Frigidus on Wed May 01, 2013 10:44 pm

I'd imagine the reason we didn't have a thread on it is because there's nothing particularly important about it. The only thing even vaguely interesting about the whole thing is the homophobic backlash, and that's hardly surprising. The heavy majority of people under the age of 30 just don't give a shit about whether or not you're gay.
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Re: Nothing about Jason Collins?

Postby strike wolf on Wed May 01, 2013 10:54 pm

I believe what Phatscotty is talking about are biological males/females who identify as transgender and fill out the opposite of their biological sex.
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Re: Nothing about Jason Collins?

Postby MegaProphet on Wed May 01, 2013 10:56 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
Woodruff wrote:Sexual preference is simply whatever one states it to be? Jesus Christ...every time I think that you couldn't possibly say something worse...you do.


It appears you have no clue what transgender is.

:roll:

Sexual preference and gender are two different things
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Re: Nothing about Jason Collins?

Postby john9blue on Wed May 01, 2013 10:56 pm

Frigidus wrote:I'd imagine the reason we didn't have a thread on it is because there's nothing particularly important about it. The only thing even vaguely interesting about the whole thing is the homophobic backlash, and that's hardly surprising. The heavy majority of people under the age of 30 just don't give a shit about whether or not you're gay.


^ this guy knows.

i heard the news and went "oh okay". kinda surprising that he's the absolute first person to do this, but otherwise unremarkable.

it's possible that he's doing this for personal gain, but people do dumber shit for personal gain all the time so i don't really care lol
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Postby 2dimes on Wed May 01, 2013 11:30 pm

I was going to make a thread. One of the local radio guys was making a fuss.

I thought, "It's pretty sad that people have to even talk about this. It's not like homosexuality is some new invention here folks."
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Re: Nothing about Jason Collins?

Postby Phatscotty on Wed May 01, 2013 11:40 pm

no kidding. It's the year 2013! C'MON PEOPLE!!!

I wonder if the jokes will be like the ones they constantly made about Tebow?
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Re: Nothing about Jason Collins?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Thu May 02, 2013 12:09 am

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Re: Nothing about Jason Collins?

Postby Night Strike on Thu May 02, 2013 1:29 am

Woodruff wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
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BigBallinStalin wrote:Denying gays from marriage is "unjust treatment." I know you're well-skilled in cherry-picking your Bible, but you should refrain from doing so with our civilized language.


How is it "unjust treatment"? Marriage has a set definition from the government. If a person doesn't meet that definition, then they don't get that privilege. The government has thousands of other set definitions that people don't qualify for. Are they being treated unjustly as well?


A similar argument was used for interacial marriages, Night Strike. Seriously...do you not see the correlations?


Nope, because there is nothing the same between race and sexual preference. Race is inherently observed on the outside, whereas sexual preference is simply whatever one states it to be.


Sexual preference is simply whatever one states it to be? Jesus Christ...every time I think that you couldn't possibly say something worse...you do.

Night Strike wrote:Hence the massive problems with the Massachusetts law that allows kids to decide which sexuality they want to be while at school no matter what they decide to be away from school.


I haven't heard about this particular law. It sounds strange, but my first thought about it is "so what"? Got a link to it?


http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/to ... hment.html

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massac ... story.html
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Re: Nothing about Jason Collins?

Postby Woodruff on Thu May 02, 2013 11:07 am

strike wolf wrote:I believe what Phatscotty is talking about are biological males/females who identify as transgender and fill out the opposite of their biological sex.


But again, what makes them "transgender" is not about "simply what they say they are". That's a simplification that borders on the horrendous. What makes them "transgender" has to do with their view of themselves. Anyone can simply say they're a transgender, but that doesn't make them a transgender.
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Re: Nothing about Jason Collins?

Postby Woodruff on Thu May 02, 2013 11:08 am

Phatscotty wrote:no kidding. It's the year 2013! C'MON PEOPLE!!!

I wonder if the jokes will be like the ones they constantly made about Tebow?


I knew it wouldn't take long before Christians would be getting oppressed again...
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Re: Nothing about Jason Collins?

Postby Woodruff on Thu May 02, 2013 11:13 am

Night Strike wrote:
Woodruff wrote:Hence the massive problems with the Massachusetts law that allows kids to decide which sexuality they want to be while at school no matter what they decide to be away from school.

I haven't heard about this particular law. It sounds strange, but my first thought about it is "so what"? Got a link to it?


http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/to ... hment.html

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massac ... story.html


Thanks for the links, Night Strike. Parts of that law are common-sense and really need to be implemented. For instance, the deal with athletic teams...who freaking cares? Eventually, I'm pretty sure the athetic teams will be co-ops at the high school level anyway. This just makes sense, from many perspectives (including financially).

Now, my one concern with this would be restroom/locker room facilities. I do actually agree that this policy could put students in danger and certainly could cause privacy issues. I'd be very interested in how they plan to get around those problems, or if they are.

Perhaps a better way to deal with this issue would be that a "doctor's note" from a psychologist or therapist verifying that the student really does have gender-identity issues. That way, at least there is a level of verification and it would take more effort than almost any student would find worth it to be able to use a different restroom/locker room.

Mostly, this is a concern for me because they're high school students (and, frankly, high schoolers do dumbass stuff all the time that if they just thought through a bit, they probably wouldn't). Out in "the real world", if you will, I don't even see this policy as being a problem. For instance, one of our local college football stadiums has all of their bathrooms unisex, and it hasn't (as far as I'm aware) caused any issues at all.
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Re: Nothing about Jason Collins?

Postby Funkyterrance on Thu May 02, 2013 11:22 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:Image

Is it just me or does that cop look like he's getting off on spraying that guy?
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Re: Nothing about Jason Collins?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Thu May 02, 2013 11:38 am

Funkyterrance wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:Image

Is it just me or does that cop look like he's getting off on spraying that guy?


Maybe, but maybe you're getting off on the cop who's getting off on spraying that guy?

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Re: Nothing about Jason Collins?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Thu May 02, 2013 11:40 am

Woodruff wrote:
Thanks for the links, Night Strike. Parts of that law are common-sense and really need to be implemented. For instance, the deal with athletic teams...who freaking cares? Eventually, I'm pretty sure the athetic teams will be co-ops at the high school level anyway. This just makes sense, from many perspectives (including financially).

Now, my one concern with this would be restroom/locker room facilities. I do actually agree that this policy could put students in danger and certainly could cause privacy issues. I'd be very interested in how they plan to get around those problems, or if they are.

Perhaps a better way to deal with this issue would be that a "doctor's note" from a psychologist or therapist verifying that the student really does have gender-identity issues. That way, at least there is a level of verification and it would take more effort than almost any student would find worth it to be able to use a different restroom/locker room.


According to the DSM-IV, gendercrossing (or transexuality) is a mental disease---just like homosexuality was in the 1960s (according to those doctors). So, those doctors aren't qualified to make these calls. If anything, they'll make it worse for the gendercrossers.

(Of course, not all psychiatrists and therapists are crossphobes and not all lack knowledge about crossgenderism, but it seems that most do).


Woodruff wrote:Mostly, this is a concern for me because they're high school students (and, frankly, high schoolers do dumbass stuff all the time that if they just thought through a bit, they probably wouldn't). Out in "the real world", if you will, I don't even see this policy as being a problem. For instance, one of our local college football stadiums has all of their bathrooms unisex, and it hasn't (as far as I'm aware) caused any issues at all.


which isn't surprising. Many people have a hard time seeing past bathroom and sports segregation.
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Re: Nothing about Jason Collins?

Postby Funkyterrance on Thu May 02, 2013 3:39 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
Maybe, but maybe you're getting off on the cop who's getting off on spraying that guy?


If it were the cop that was being sprayed, maybe, but nah.
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Re: Nothing about Jason Collins?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Thu May 02, 2013 3:40 pm

Funkyterrance wrote:
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Maybe, but maybe you're getting off on the cop who's getting off on spraying that guy?


If it were the cop that was being sprayed, maybe, but nah.


Serbia told me he'd give you a reach-around regardless. You still down?
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Re: Nothing about Jason Collins?

Postby Funkyterrance on Thu May 02, 2013 3:45 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Maybe, but maybe you're getting off on the cop who's getting off on spraying that guy?


If it were the cop that was being sprayed, maybe, but nah.


Serbia told me he'd give you a reach-around regardless. You still down?

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