Gun Control

[Woodruff]

Tell me, what are the circumstances of that person hanging there that you are now exploiting? Is it really just "Muricah"? end of discussion?

I certainly don't know the circumstances of the black man in Juan's picture. Do you believe it is likely that man received a fair trial or a punishment that would be considered as not cruel or unusual?

[Woodruff]

To the rest of the people following along, as relevant to this thread and the topic of gun control, there is one thing all people hanging at the end of a rope have in common.

They were not able to protect themselves from a mob,regardless of their race

Who were more likely to find themselves at the end of a mob-run rope, Phatscotty...white men or someone else?

[Phatscotty]

Tell me, what are the circumstances of that person hanging there that you are now exploiting? Is it really just "Muricah"? end of discussion?

I certainly don't know the circumstances of the black man in Juan's picture. Do you believe it is likely that man received a fair trial or a punishment that would be considered as not cruel or unusual?

IDK....then again, I am not the one using it in a way that suggests I do know, am I?

[Woodruff]

Let me try to think like you do.

"OH YEAH? Well here is a white person being hung. Your argument has been debunked!"

Why did you change the picture in your post, Phatscotty? Seriously...you must be the most intellectually dishonest individual on this site.

[Phatscotty]

You guys are racist as hell

[Symmetry]

Why change your pic Scotty? That's Mussolini and co.

Edit: I can't spell Mussolini.

[Woodruff]

Tell me, what are the circumstances of that person hanging there that you are now exploiting? Is it really just "Muricah"? end of discussion?

I certainly don't know the circumstances of the black man in Juan's picture. Do you believe it is likely that man received a fair trial or a punishment that would be considered as not cruel or unusual?

IDK....then again, I am not the one using it in a way that suggests I do know, am I?

Yeah, I thought you'd tap-dance out too.

[Woodruff]

You guys are racist as hell

Deflection is a poor personality trait, Phatscotty.

[Juan_Bottom]

Exactly.
America has never been rainbows and butterflys, and the promises of the Constitution have never been kept for any of it's entire history. The 2nd Amendment was only ever written for whites, so they could dominate the other peoples. "All men are created equal" is a modern argument, despite the fact that the words are from the 1700s.

Why did you change the picture in your post, Phatscotty? Seriously...you must be the most intellectually dishonest individual on this site.

Well, it was two black people being lynched by a sh*tload of racists. Maybe on his monitor the color looked different and he couldn't tell. Anyway, it didn't mesh with his point.

Even the new picture is white people being lynched by still more white people. And whites could always own guns.

[Woodruff]

Why change your pic Scotty?

Apparently, he thought that was a mob of black men hanging those white men too...

[Phatscotty]

Why change your pic Scotty?

Apparently, he thought that was a mob of black men hanging those white men too...

It was one white person and one black person. I realized that was a mistake because I was talking to people who can only see race, and nothing else, so I changed it to make sure they were all the same color. That way, you would understand

[Symmetry]

Why change your pic Scotty?

Apparently, he thought that was a mob of black men hanging those white men too...

It's Mussolini's death shot.

[Juan_Bottom]

fastposted, I just looked that up.

Mussolini hanging from a lamppost along with Claretta Petacci and other fascists


Anyway, I'm not certain, but I believe that lynchings of Whites in the United States probably became very rare as the American West was tamed. So once whites stopped carrying gun belts everywhere, lynchings went out of fashion for use against other whites.

[Phatscotty]

It's only in relation to your post juan, where you posted a person getting lynched, and how that somehow disproves that all men are created equal.

I'll pitch this in there for ya, think about how not all people follow the law all the time

If you wanna cut the bullshit and have a real discussion (I know you are more capable than most) I'll be around for a while and will listen to what you say the best I can.

[Symmetry]

I think it was a petrol station in the end, still, it's not particularly a shock given Scotty's views that he would see Mussolini's death as a legitimate counterpoint to lynching of African Americans.

[Phatscotty]

I think it was a petrol station in the end, still, it's not particularly a shock given Scotty's views that he would see Mussolini's death as a legitimate counterpoint to lynching of African Americans.

fail

[Woodruff]

Why change your pic Scotty?

Apparently, he thought that was a mob of black men hanging those white men too...

It was one white person and one black person. I realized that was a mistake because I was talking to people who can only see race, and nothing else, so I changed it to make sure they were all the same color. That way, you would understand

You realized it was a mistake because someone pointed out to you that it wasn't two white men like you were trying to claim. But rather than man up and admit to that, you have to try to deflect as usual.

[Woodruff]

I think it was a petrol station in the end, still, it's not particularly a shock given Scotty's views that he would see Mussolini's death as a legitimate counterpoint to lynching of African Americans.

fail

Yes, your attempt was a massive failure.

[Phatscotty]

I think it was a petrol station in the end, still, it's not particularly a shock given Scotty's views that he would see Mussolini's death as a legitimate counterpoint to lynching of African Americans.

fail

Yes, your attempt was a massive failure.

Your type will always fail. That's why I don't care one bit about you or what you do. It's why I read your posts and laugh, shake my head, and just feel sad for you.

Two protestors attempted to burn an American flag in the outfield of Dodger Stadium. A baseball player by the name of Rick Monday of the Chicago Cubs rushed over and grabbed the flag to thunderous cheers. The two protestors were arrested and Monday received a standing ovation from the LA crowd when he came to bat. He was later quoted saying, "If you're going to burn the flag, don't do it around me. I've been to too many veterans' hospitals and seen too many broken bodies of guys who tried to protect it."

[Symmetry]

I think it was a petrol station in the end, still, it's not particularly a shock given Scotty's views that he would see Mussolini's death as a legitimate counterpoint to lynching of African Americans.

fail

Yes, your attempt was a massive failure.

Your type will always fail. That's why I don't care one bit about you or what you do. It's why I read your posts and laugh, shake my head, and just feel sad for you.

How'd your bro Mussolini fair out?

[Woodruff]

I think it was a petrol station in the end, still, it's not particularly a shock given Scotty's views that he would see Mussolini's death as a legitimate counterpoint to lynching of African Americans.

fail

Yes, your attempt was a massive failure.

Your type will always fail. That's why I don't care one bit about you or what you do. It's why I read your posts and laugh, shake my head, and just feel sad for you.

That's probably the only way you can manage to keep a positive self-image, so I suppose that's good for you.

You might try to actually rebut the posts though, if you want to engage your mind instead of retreat all the time.

Two protestors attempted to burn an American flag in the outfield of Dodger Stadium. A baseball player by the name of Rick Monday of the Chicago Cubs rushed over and grabbed the flag to thunderous cheers. The two protestors were arrested and Monday received a standing ovation from the LA crowd when he came to bat. He was later quoted saying, "If you're going to burn the flag, don't do it around me. I've been to too many veterans' hospitals and seen too many broken bodies of guys who tried to protect it."

Yeah, you never have been one for upholding the freedoms of others have you, Phatscotty? More proof that you're not at all interested in free speech for anyone but yourself and those who think like you.

[Night Strike]

[BigBallinStalin]

When engaging in social science, we have to control for relevant variables. For example, we only have two variables here. The dependent variable is "per-capita firearm murder victims," and the independent variable is "total firearms in the US."

(The independent variables--the inputs--'cause' the dependent variable, i.e. the output). I say 'cause' because (1) it depends on the theory at play, and/or (2) the post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy is at play, e.g. correlation != causation.

So, we must ask, what other dependent variables explain the decrease in "per-capita firearm murder victims"?

Because if we omit those relevant variables, then we are left with an incomplete correlation between firearm murders and total firearms. Since the correlation/study is incomplete, then our conclusion must remain unknown in soundness (e.g. it isn't true or false that "more firearms leads to less firearm murders").

Just sayin.

[Lootifer]

When engaging in social science, we have to control for relevant variables. For example, we have two variables here. The dependent variable is "per-capita firearm murder victims," and the independent variable is "total firearms in the US." (The independent variables--the inputs--'cause' the dependent variable, i.e. the output).

So, we must ask, what other dependent variables explain the decrease in "per-capita firearm murder victims"?

Because if we omit those relevant variables, then we are left with an incomplete correlation between firearm murders and total firearms. Since the correlation/study is incomplete, then our conclusion must remain unknown in soundness (e.g. it isn't true or false that "more firearms leads to less firearm murders").

Just sayin.

I wonder if we can setup a macro to post a similar message anytime a picture is posted in this thread. Save you and I some keyboard time.

[BigBallinStalin]

Here's another way to conduct this study.

Dependent variable = per-capita firearm murder victims"

Independent variables:
1. Amount of private security
2. Amount of public security (police)
3. Change in police tactics
4. Abortions (Stephen Levitt study)
5. Lead poisoning (JW Reyes).
6. Total firearms in US
7. etc.

With the inclusion of more independent variables, one can (perhaps) get a firmer grasp on how the dependent variable is influenced.

(there's also the problem of endogeneity. For example, is the "increase in total firearms" causing a "decrease in firearms murders," or is the "decrease in firearms murders" causing the "increase in total firearms"? In other words, people may still erroneously perceive that firearms murders are increasing, thus will purchase more guns--even though firearms murders are decreasing.