School Uniforms

[saxitoxin]

Did you wear uniforms in school?

[saxitoxin]

(U.S.) Cities with the highest use of uniforms in their public schools
http://www.statisticbrain.com/-uniform-statistics/
1. New Orleans 95 %
2. Cleveland 85 %
3. Chicago 80 %

[waauw]

school uniforms always make me think the schools just want you to fall in line and obbey without questions asked

[Serbia]

Pics or school uniforms didn't happen.

Bollocks.

[Haggis_McMutton]

Pics or school uniforms didn't happen.

Bollocks.

I googled "schoolgirl" and this was the first hit:

[Baron Von PWN]

Nope we never had school uniforms. They did suspend or make kids change who were wearing "inappropriate" clothing.

Shirts too low cut, or curse words on the clothing, that sort of thing.

[saxitoxin]

Nope we never had school uniforms.

Even though uniforms weren't required, did you voluntarily wear your baronial uniform anyway?

school uniforms always make me think the schools just want you to fall in line and obbey without questions asked

What's the uniform situation like in Belgium?

I googled "schoolgirl" and this was the first hit:

I used google.se and this was what I got -

[nietzsche]

I'm for uniforms.

2 reasons:

they are sexy in girls,

and so kids don't need to stress up because the rest of the kids have cooler clothes.

[saxitoxin]

I'm for uniforms.

2 reasons:

they are sexy in girls,

and so kids don't need to stress up because the rest of the kids have cooler clothes.

What's the uniform situation like in MX?

[nietzsche]

I'm for uniforms.

2 reasons:

they are sexy in girls,

and so kids don't need to stress up because the rest of the kids have cooler clothes.

What's the uniform situation like in MX?

In state highschools there are many slutty girls that wear very short skirts. The sluttiest go usually to downtown highschools and they also wear very tight translucent blouses.

Private schools not so much, and religious schools are the worst.











lol

[Army of GOD]

we're going to need pics Neetch

[waauw]

school uniforms always make me think the schools just want you to fall in line and obbey without questions asked

What's the uniform situation like in Belgium?

pretty much the only schools with uniforms are schools who used to be led by nuns or monks.
Although not all of 'm still demand it.

But what I was referencing to was that it resembles a whole lot to the the military, where collectivism is very important. Uniforms make everyone the same, making it look like everyone is part of one and the same giant entity, with no room for individualism. Even though capitalism is an individualist based society.

[waauw]

I googled "schoolgirl" and this was the first hit:

I used google.se and this was what I got -

and I was under the impression swedish girls were hot

[jimboston]

I went to a Parochial School... we had uniforms in primary and a dress code in secondary.

My kids go to a Charter Public School, they have a dress code that specifies a specific color scheme.
(i.e. Beige or Navy Blue bottom, and White or Navy Blue top)

We call it a "dress code... but it's kinda a blend between a uniform and a dress code.

I like it.

It makes it easier to get the kids dressed in the morning, and you know there is a minimum decency standard being enforced at the school.

They get to have "non-dress-code" days for different reasons... and these become special.

I believe that the act of "dressing up" for an activity mentally prepares one for said activity... and therefore is helpful to the learning environment. Also there is less cause for distraction at the school.

[betiko]

I think it s nor good nor bad. As long as it s a chosen decision, and it doesn t traumatise someone very much into "outfit expressionism". I m sure lots of kids like uniforms though. Just a convenient thing to save time and money for parents, which is good.

[Jdsizzleslice]

I'm for uniforms.

and so kids don't need to stress up because the rest of the kids have cooler clothes.

Basically this is what my school does. And they say it "improved academic performance"

But we can wear School Branded T-shirts on Monday and Friday. Any type of shoes, even crocs. Weird Huh...

[saxitoxin]

But we can wear School Branded T-shirts on Monday and Friday. Any type of shoes, even crocs.

Can you wear these?

I think it s nor good nor bad. As long as it s a chosen decision, and it doesn t traumatise someone very much into "outfit expressionism". I m sure lots of kids like uniforms though. Just a convenient thing to save time and money for parents, which is good.

What's the uniform situation in Frenchland?

[Baron Von PWN]

Nope we never had school uniforms.

Even though uniforms weren't required, did you voluntarily wear your baronial uniform anyway?

Only on fridays, which I chose to make formal fridays. I was not very popular.

[Woodruff]

school uniforms always make me think the schools just want you to fall in line and obbey without questions asked

What's the uniform situation like in Belgium?

pretty much the only schools with uniforms are schools who used to be led by nuns or monks.
Although not all of 'm still demand it.

But what I was referencing to was that it resembles a whole lot to the the military, where collectivism is very important. Uniforms make everyone the same, making it look like everyone is part of one and the same giant entity, with no room for individualism. Even though capitalism is an individualist based society.

I am overall against school uniforms. However, one thing that nietsche mentioned that I think is relevant is the idea of kids not having to worry about "wearing cool clothes they can't really afford"...it does take some pressure off of that a bit, which is a good thing.

[jimboston]

school uniforms always make me think the schools just want you to fall in line and obbey without questions asked

What's the uniform situation like in Belgium?

pretty much the only schools with uniforms are schools who used to be led by nuns or monks.
Although not all of 'm still demand it.

But what I was referencing to was that it resembles a whole lot to the the military, where collectivism is very important. Uniforms make everyone the same, making it look like everyone is part of one and the same giant entity, with no room for individualism. Even though capitalism is an individualist based society.

I am overall against school uniforms. However, one thing that nietsche mentioned that I think is relevant is the idea of kids not having to worry about "wearing cool clothes they can't really afford"...it does take some pressure off of that a bit, which is a good thing.

Aren't you a military man?
... and you are against uniforms?

Don't you think a uniform instills a sense of common identity and common purpose?
Do you think this might be helpful in areas where kids are exposed to some many negative outside influences?

[Symmetry]

When I moved from the UK (where school uniforms are compulsory) to a US school (where casual is the norm, with a few restrictions) I found it very cliquey. I'm not sure that the individualism argument really flies, at least in my experience. It seemed to encourage a more overt form of discrimination between students. Say, for example, between the kids who could afford whatever was currently fashionable and the poorer kids.

I support the idea of uniforms in schools. I find it sad that people would think that individuality is reliant on the clothes a person wears in general, but I like it even less as a principle encouraged in kids.

[betiko]

I think it s nor good nor bad. As long as it s a chosen decision, and it doesn t traumatise someone very much into "outfit expressionism". I m sure lots of kids like uniforms though. Just a convenient thing to save time and money for parents, which is good.

What's the uniform situation in Frenchland?[/quote]

there is no uniforms in public schools (and public schools are the huge majority in france). Some private school might have uniforms, but it's pretty rare. What is more peculiar in the french system is that you are not allowed to any religious symbols when you go to school. So there are some huge scandals because we don't allow muslim girls to wear a vail at school. Big deal, our country our rules. Anything state related has to be completely unreligious. We had problems with al qaeda because of that. Any woman in saudi arabia has to wear one right? people have to acomodate to local traditions? well french based their constitution on laicity, so f*ck off and when we say no religious symbols at school muslims don't have special rights. In france it's also forbidden to wear a burka because there is no way to identify the person if there is a felony or whatever. Yhis contrasts pretty much with the legislation in the UK or canada where you are completely free to do what you want about this.

[Symmetry]

I think it s nor good nor bad. As long as it s a chosen decision, and it doesn t traumatise someone very much into "outfit expressionism". I m sure lots of kids like uniforms though. Just a convenient thing to save time and money for parents, which is good.

What's the uniform situation in Frenchland?

there is no uniforms in public schools (and public schools are the huge majority in france). Some private school might have uniforms, but it's pretty rare. What is more peculiar in the french system is that you are not allowed to any religious symbols when you go to school. So there are some huge scandals because we don't allow muslim girls to wear a vail at school. Big deal, our country our rules. Anything state related has to be completely unreligious. We had problems with al qaeda because of that. Any woman in saudi arabia has to wear one right? people have to acomodate to local traditions? well french based their constitution on laicity, so f*ck off and when we say no religious symbols at school muslims don't have special rights. In france it's also forbidden to wear a burka because there is no way to identify the person if there is a felony or whatever. Yhis contrasts pretty much with the legislation in the UK or canada where you are completely free to do what you want about this.[/quote]

To be fair, it was the wearing of a headscarf that came under most scrutiny. The veil arguments were extreme examples. I genuinely respect France for trying to take a stand on cultural principles, but making a rule based on knee-jerk Islamaphobia because France was getting a lot of immigrants from places it used to call French? Meh...

[saxitoxin]

When I moved from the UK (where school uniforms are compulsory) to a US school (where casual is the norm, with a few restrictions) I found it very cliquey. I'm not sure that the individualism argument really flies, at least in my experience. It seemed to encourage a more overt form of discrimination between students. Say, for example, between the kids who could afford whatever was currently fashionable and the poorer kids.

I support the idea of uniforms in schools. I find it sad that people would think that individuality is reliant on the clothes a person wears in general, but I like it even less as a principle encouraged in kids.

I believe I've seen the school children wearing uniforms in countries in the Indian sub-continent as well. What is the situation in Australia and N.Z.?

Are uniforms unique to former British colonies (with the exception of Canada and parts of the U.S.)?

I think I agree with Symmetry and nietzsche and JimBoston.

I don't think I would support neckties as part of a uniform, though, because that seems unnecessarily superfluous to achieve the goal of the uniform. Are neckties common to uniforms, like in the Inbetweeners?

[Symmetry]

Are uniforms unique to former British colonies (with the exception of Canada and parts of the U.S.)?

Nope, even more common in Japan, even to university level sometimes.