Phatscotty wrote:I hear you about multinationals. Private companies are the ones collecting most of the data, the government piggy back on them to get their data for their own reasons. But that's just it, no transactions are private anymore. And when Obamacare kicks in, and you have a heart attack, and the file shows the doctor has told you repeatedly over 5 years not to eat fast food, but they find a transaction at Mcdonalds, it can be used against you. That is the "prevention" part of Obamacare. We are going to be held accountable for the warnings we are given, and there will be consequences for ignoring them even one time while on vacation in another state. Same with smokers who have lung trouble. When you go in to get care, they will say "why did you smoke?" "non-preventable diseases go first, PREVENTABLE!" That's gonna cost ya since it could have been prevented" "Our records show you buy 2 packs a day up until 3 years ago."
At the core, Americans complain about Obamacare because we have an attachment to the principle of limited government (obviously dwindling with every generation, but the principle and the spirit is in our Constitution) for one, amongst many, many other reasons.
Actually, I disagree completely with this. Firstly,
everyone under retirement age has to be insured/ on Medicaid. Which basically means Obama has cut the power the insurance companies have. Which can never be a bad thing. They were far too willing to throw out legitimate complaints before. So realistically, from what I've heard... you're completely wrong there. It was like that before. It won't be now. I could be wrong, but I doubt it. It goes against the very spirit of the bill after all.
The issue I have with Obamacare... and realistically it isn't a huge issue because I think it'll get taken care of in the long run, is that they can charge smokers more. But you know what? Smokers pose a bigger risk. If you're going to lump it onto the private sector, of course that'll happen. Now how they collect their data is something else. But lying... well... that would of course be a bad thing. Not sure how you'd handle that. But whatever, it means that smokers actually
can get decent insurance.
Either way, like I said, I'd not trade my wonderful state medical for yours ever. And I wouldn't want to live in a country that didn't care for its needy either.
And I think that the US constitution was never meant to survive as long as it did. At least in the form that it was made. I agree with the freedom parts of it (save gun control), but there is no way in hell that your founding fathers could ever even have imagined a world such as there is today. The digital age is something very, very different from what they knew and could have foreseen. Not to mention "little incidents" like WW1, WW2 and the cold war.
The US constitution was written to give states powers and I respect that. But the way the world works now and the way that the US basically has to work is that the states need to cede that power to the federal government. Otherwise there is no way in hell that they could have the worldwide leverage (amongst other things) that they need to survive. Not to mention that there it would be impossible for the US to be anything like it is.
In short, I believe that the US constitution needs a complete and utter revamp for the modern age. And the US needs to go back to "first principles". Freedom and justice for all being the forefront of those, at least in my mind.
One of the first things I'd change is the outdated electoral college system. Your Tea Party would get a hell of a lot more control that way, but so would the left wing (and in my mind more classical American) parties. And it would be fair again. Not like this endless 2 party system which has proven itself not to work (filibustering threats surely shows you that).
Anyway, I don't have a vote and I don't have any say, but as said I know enough of you Americans and that is what I'd say you need to bring your country back to its place amongst the forerunners in freedom and democracy.
P.S. no matter how many guns you have, you'll be seen as a nut if you start using them rather than the political process today.[/quote]
I'm glad you wouldn't trade you system, and that you like it so much. Do you like it so much that you try to tell other people half way around what world what is best for them? Because you won't find me telling other countries how to live their lives. If anything, I thought that's what people's biggest problem with America was, telling everyone else what is best for them...and here you are....
I don't know what your gun comment has to do with anything, other than focusing your hate squarely on me. If you think I am not using the political process, then you don't have a clue about me, and you don't have a clue about what the Tea Party has already done using the political process, and the only people that have fired shots and blow up bridges were at Occupy Wall street protests, but I'm guessing you don't know anything about that either, or you wouldn't be saying it about the Tea Party. But I knew you didn't know any of that in the first place, please continue telling us how we need to live our lives.
Since you know so much about my country and our history and our founding, could you tell us specifically which amendments you think we need to totally throw out? Could you just do 1-10 for now?
The US Consitution was written for a lot more things than state powers. Do you know some of the other reasons why our Constitution was written? What are they?
Going back to principles first is EXACTLY what the Tea Party is all about. Go ahead and disagree, just remember you are in the Netherlands and not in the Tea Party, and I am and always have lived in America and am a member of the Tea Party.
. Besides, it is kind of analogous to our (rather more complete) socialised medicine here. I wouldn't trade you for the world, but there are certainly similarities. Yours just got scuppered again by silly right wing people that don't realise that it is good for the country as a whole.
