OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE

[oVo]

Alien currency is probably worth more too.
Does Hawaii have a President?

[notyou2]

I would like to raise a point of order ... it is 1959 not 1949

That would only make Obama 2 years older than he claims to be.

Personally I think that's stupid. I'm one month older than him damn it. He's not almost two years older than me.

Sorry, I was confusing Hawaii and Newfoundland. After all, they are both islands and populated by Polynesians.

[thegreekdog]

I'm sorry, I'm still trying to figure out why this matters.

[AndyDufresne]

I'm sorry, I'm still trying to figure out why this matters.

TGD, you need to talk more with warmonger1's uncle on facebook.


--Andy

[thegreekdog]

I'm sorry, I'm still trying to figure out why this matters.

TGD, you need to talk more with warmonger1's uncle on facebook.


--Andy

I'm just wondering how the place someone is born affects his presidency. Like does being born on Mars alone make President Obama a bad president?

[jonesthecurl]

I'm sorry, I'm still trying to figure out why this matters.

TGD, you need to talk more with warmonger1's uncle on facebook.


--Andy

I'm just wondering how the place someone is born affects his presidency. Like does being born on Mars alone make President Obama a bad president?

No, it's the shape-changing and blood-sucking that goes with it. Plus bowing down to the almighty Zoggg, which is required of all martians.

[warmonger1981]

IM BAAACK.... Seriously though I thought that subject was already proven false. My uncle aint no dummy and doesnt post crazy shit. Thats why I ask. I seen the story on my wifes facebook. It was from a local TV station I think from Arizona.

[ooge]

IM BAAACK.... Seriously though I thought that subject was already proven false. My uncle aint no dummy and doesnt post crazy shit. Thats why I ask. I seen the story on my wifes facebook. It was from a local TV station I think from Arizona.

BZZZ! goes the bee welcome back

[Gillipig]

I have photographic evidence of Obama's birth! The shocking thing is not where he was born but to whom!

show

Turns out Obama is the first human who was not born out of a vagina, "anal birth" the scientists call it.

[pimpdave]

Go back and reread you bootlickers!

[Serbia]

Why is this thread still active? LET IT DIE

/calling for the death of a thread by posting and helping it live

Bollocks.

[tzor]

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth: ... a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years

Very interesting. But notice it says "at birth." Time to look at the historical revisions of this law...

1986—Subsec. (g). Pub. L. 99–653 substituted “five years, at least two” for “ten years, at least five”.

So at the time his mother would have had to be 14+5 years old or 19. His mother, born November 29, 1942, so that means she was only 18 when BHO was born in August. Oops. The law revision wasn't retroactive, it only applied to people born after 1986. Too bad, so sad.

Of course this might also be moot if it was proven that he had gotten citizenship in the United Kingdom by virtue of his father, who was a citizen of a country still under control of the British Empire at the time.

Of course that has nothing to do with the subject, which is that everything he has presented with regards to his "birth certificate" is a computer generated fake.

Obama also constantly referred to his Kenyan birth in many documents before he actually ran for president and someone reminded him of that natural born thing.

Some people suggest that his college records are sealed because he had to claim (perhaps he lied) that he was a foreign born student in order to get funding and even admission into the institutes that he studied in. You will notice that he never shows up at reunions and most of the classmates (who are and vote Democrat) as well as important professors of the day never recall seeing him in class.

Everything seems to be smoke and mirrors. That''s why if you look closely you can't find him; vampires don't reflect in mirrors.

[Metsfanmax]

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth: ... a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years

Very interesting. But notice it says "at birth." Time to look at the historical revisions of this law...

1986—Subsec. (g). Pub. L. 99–653 substituted “five years, at least two” for “ten years, at least five”.

So at the time his mother would have had to be 14+5 years old or 19. His mother, born November 29, 1942, so that means she was only 18 when BHO was born in August. Oops. The law revision wasn't retroactive, it only applied to people born after 1986. Too bad, so sad.

Ok, fair enough, but it's not obvious to me that if this came to court, that the two month difference would really matter. And I wasn't able to find any references of cases where the parent physically could not have lived in the US five years.

Even if this doesn't convince you, there's also the fact that Obama Sr. was actually still married in Kenya, which means that his marriage in the US was not legal, which would make Obama born out of wedlock, and so he would be covered by that citizenship rule.

Everything seems to be smoke and mirrors. That''s why if you look closely you can't find him; vampires don't reflect in mirrors.

I'm not surprised that if you believe that his birth certificate is faked, that you also believe vampires exist.

[tzor]

Ok, fair enough, but it's not obvious to me that if this came to court, that the two month difference would really matter. And I wasn't able to find any references of cases where the parent physically could not have lived in the US five years.

Even if this doesn't convince you, there's also the fact that Obama Sr. was actually still married in Kenya, which means that his marriage in the US was not legal, which would make Obama born out of wedlock, and so he would be covered by that citizenship rule.

You know, with all the pages I have seen on the thread on this topic I haven't seen any Obama supporter get this far into the logic. That is a very good point to consider.

Everything seems to be smoke and mirrors. That''s why if you look closely you can't find him; vampires don't reflect in mirrors.

I'm not surprised that if you believe that his birth certificate is faked, that you also believe vampires exist.

You mean you don't believe in creatures that drain your blood so that others might live? I've seen them! I had a blood donation just last week!

But the vampire thing was a metaphor not a literal description. The birth certificate was a convenient thing that people wanted to see, so he gave it to them. Everything about Obama through all his life was about presenting things that people wanted to see. They wanted to see it, so he created one to satisfy the people who were talking the loudest (like Trump) and allow him to push his message and agenda.

The fact that is might be fake doesn't prove that the information in it is completely false or that he fails to qualify for the office. It merely means one cannot use it to prove he is.

[Metsfanmax]

The fact that is might be fake doesn't prove that the information in it is completely false or that he fails to qualify for the office. It merely means one cannot use it to prove he is.

Well yes, but nevertheless I would be deeply disturbed if it did turn out to be a fake, even if he did survive a citizenship challenge in the court system. It would suggest that he thought that we wouldn't vote for him if we knew the truth about how his parents behaved, and if he believed that, I would respect him less. I don't judge a man by his parents, but by his own actions.

[Woodruff]

Ok, fair enough, but it's not obvious to me that if this came to court, that the two month difference would really matter. And I wasn't able to find any references of cases where the parent physically could not have lived in the US five years.

Even if this doesn't convince you, there's also the fact that Obama Sr. was actually still married in Kenya, which means that his marriage in the US was not legal, which would make Obama born out of wedlock, and so he would be covered by that citizenship rule.

You know, with all the pages I have seen on the thread on this topic I haven't seen any Obama supporter get this far into the logic. That is a very good point to consider.

I have also never heard that particular point made, nor ever considered it myself.

[tzor]

Well yes, but nevertheless I would be deeply disturbed if it did turn out to be a fake, even if he did survive a citizenship challenge in the court system. It would suggest that he thought that we wouldn't vote for him if we knew the truth about how his parents behaved, and if he believed that, I would respect him less. I don't judge a man by his parents, but by his own actions.

You might be deeply disturbed but my "give a damn" broke years ago. It's getting common for people to pad their resumes in order to appeal more attractive to the community or the voters. We have a United States Senator who, for years, incorrectly boasted of her Native American heritage in order to appear important in the College Education System. Given the general cry of wanting to see the document, and how annoying that would have been to such an elitist who would think he was above such things, the idea that he would suggest to someone to make something up, seems both logical and probable.

Consider that this is the president of "Fast and Furious," the IRS scandal, Benghazi, the cover up of the attack on the Afghanistan Base a few days after Benghazi, and so on and so forth, how could this disturb you?

[Nobunaga]

This thread's been idle for quite a while and it pops up the day after I read this:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/eri ... s-comment/

Nothing too interesting, just a Yahoo News gaff.

[Woodruff]

This thread's been idle for quite a while and it pops up the day after I read this:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/eri ... s-comment/

Nothing too interesting, just a Yahoo News gaff.

Heh...that's actually pretty funny. How brain-dead did that reporter really need to be to make that mistake?