Liberty Amendments?

[Nobunaga]

Check out the line at this Long Island book store... waiting to get Mark Levin to sign a copy.

Anybody know this book? It's at #1, like almost every book the man has written in the last decade.

[Phatscotty]

I heard a lot about it. Basically, he is taking the "what can we do about it" literally, and has come up with some real answers. Some are pretty radical, some are pretty feasible, but they are all actual answers, supposedly (I haven't read the book)

[tzor]

You will notice that I am not there. I was with friends at the Renn Faire that day. I just finished the book. The book has 11 proposed amendments to the constitution in 10 chapters. I think I agree with all of them. Getting my state to join in on getting them passed might be next to impossible. But since this is New York, the next to impossible, still not being impossible, is possible.

[BigBallinStalin]

Would anyone care to state his 11 proposed amendments? Maybe that would spur on some more conversation about this guy.

[Nobunaga]

All I was able to find was the book's introduction.

http://citadelcc.vo.llnwd.net/o29/netwo ... ntsCh1.pdf

Just found a video, too. Hannity?, you're asking.... Yeah, strange that he's the only one who will host this author of multiple NYT #1 best-selling books.... (to be honest, I wish others would).

[oVo]

10 Easy Steps, certainly looks interesting.
Is it a good read tzor?

show: sarah may have read it

The Liberty Amendments are as follows:

1. An Amendment to Establish Term Limits for Members of Congress

2. An Amendment to Restore the Senate

3. An Amendment to Establish Term Limits for Supreme Court Justices and Super-Majority Legislative Override

4. Two Amendments to Limit Federal Spending and Taxing

5. An Amendment to Limit the Federal Bureaucracy

6. An Amendment to Promote Free Enterprise

7. An Amendment to Protect Private Property

8. An Amendment to Grant the States Authority to Directly Amend the Constitution

9. An Amendment to Grant the states Authority to Check Congress

10. An Amendment to Protect the Vote

There should be one relating to election finance reforms and PACs

[Night Strike]

There should be one relating to election finance reforms and PACs

So all those other amendments are to limit the federal government, but you want to add one that limits the ability of individuals to have their say in the government? That position is antithetical to the others.

[AndyDufresne]

I like NS understanding of conglomerates as individuals.


--Andy

[oVo]

There should be one relating to election finance reforms and PACs

So all those other amendments are to limit the federal government, but you want to add one that limits the ability of individuals to have their say in the government? That position is antithetical to the others.

It's not about an individual's say in government. It is about how elections
are financed, influence peddling, transparency and moving away from
corporate democracy.

Also, when a PAC or Super PAC starts dumping millions of dollars
in your part of the country advertising positions on issues or
policy that will affect your life. It should not be anonymous and
the source/sources of those finances should be public.

[BigBallinStalin]

There should be one relating to election finance reforms and PACs

So all those other amendments are to limit the federal government, but you want to add one that limits the ability of individuals to have their say in the government? That position is antithetical to the others.

It's not about an individual's say in government. It is about how elections
are financed, influence peddling, transparency and moving away from
corporate democracy.

Also, when a PAC or Super PAC starts dumping millions of dollars
in your part of the country advertising positions on issues or
policy that will affect your life. It should not be anonymous and
the source/sources of those finances should be public.

Why do PACs and all that dump so much money into politics? Because it's profitable to do so.

But why is it profitable? Because the federal government has the power to implement national changes which are conducive to the political donators. The greater scope of their policies would yield greater profits.

Therefore, it would make sense to take the punchbowl away from the party (reduce the scope of federal government power).

[thegreekdog]

This is interesting. I generally ignore Mark Levin because he mocked Ron Paul, Rand Paul, and Libertarians consistently during the last primary election season and now the libertarian movement in the Republican Party is popular (i.e. profitable). What he doesn't say is that he is as pro-war and pro-military industrial complex as there is.

[Phatscotty]

This is interesting. I generally ignore Mark Levin because he mocked Ron Paul, Rand Paul, and Libertarians consistently during the last primary election season and now the libertarian movement in the Republican Party is popular (i.e. profitable). What he doesn't say is that he is as pro-war and pro-military industrial complex as there is.

That's true, as I have had the same exact experience with Huckabee as well as any other candidate who is running against a fiscal Conservative.

I don't listen to Mark Levin, but I know a lot of people who really like him. Bottom line, Levin is not a Libertarian type, and when the chips are down, he is not going to cast his lot with a Libertarian candidate in a primary until he is forced to, ie a Libertarian candidate wins over a social Conservative or establishment Republican. If the Libertarian/Fiscal candidate wins and then goes on to run against a Democrat, then Levin will support them. But he is always going to have a huge problem with their foreign and domestic social policies regardless.

[Nobunaga]

It would seem Rush Limbaugh's written a book, already at #1 on Amazon.

It's a kid's book, looks like.

[tzor]

Is it a good read tzor?

I really think so. Remember that first and foremost, Levin is the president of the Landmark Legal Foundation. So he has ample experience at presenting a "case" and in this case the case he presents is the rationale for the various amendments he proposes. He gives the historical context as well as the modern context. He places facts and figures to support his case but does so in a manner that is pleasing and easy to read.

[Phatscotty]

7. An Amendment to Protect Private Property