President John McCain

[BigBallinStalin]

Free market capitalism would not be as inhibited. Unemployment would probably be under 6.5 percent. The media would be doing their daily death counts for Aghanistan. The Democrats would be looking at gaining seats in The House, Senate and possibly the governorships. Sarah Palin would have taken her place as the next Dan Quayle, sufficiently smashed by the media and unable to run for the presidency. Barrack Obama would still be everyone's hero and he and the Clintons would be looking for ways to subtly denigrate each other as they prepare for runs in 2012. The liberal media would be going on about how a decade of Bush style politics are screwing us over. There would still be a budget deficit, but nowhere near what is now. Health care cost would not have went up 20 percent and we would have tort reform instead of socialized health care, excuse me 'the public option.' Bureaucracy and socialism would not be as rampant. Liberals would be feel like victims still. They would be calling blood for oil and the whole 9 yards and screaming more about corporatism run a muck.

How would we have tort reform?

[ViperOverLord]

Free market capitalism would not be as inhibited. Unemployment would probably be under 6.5 percent. The media would be doing their daily death counts for Aghanistan. The Democrats would be looking at gaining seats in The House, Senate and possibly the governorships. Sarah Palin would have taken her place as the next Dan Quayle, sufficiently smashed by the media and unable to run for the presidency. Barrack Obama would still be everyone's hero and he and the Clintons would be looking for ways to subtly denigrate each other as they prepare for runs in 2012. The liberal media would be going on about how a decade of Bush style politics are screwing us over. There would still be a budget deficit, but nowhere near what is now. Health care cost would not have went up 20 percent and we would have tort reform instead of socialized health care, excuse me 'the public option.' Bureaucracy and socialism would not be as rampant. Liberals would be feel like victims still. They would be calling blood for oil and the whole 9 yards and screaming more about corporatism run a muck.

How would we have tort reform?

That was what McCain campaigned on (along with selling beyond state lines to create competition) as his argument against Obamacare.

[bradleybadly]

I think if McCain had been elected there'd be a lot more partisan bickering publicly, but ultimately some caving in by him on economic policy. That would mean bailouts, but probably on the scale that Bush did in his last months as president. Scott Brown wouldn't be a senator from Mass. today, and Chris Christie probably wouldn't be governor of New Jersey. Obama's policies helped Republicans pick up those offices, and will be responsible for the Republicans winning the House in 2010. I don't think the Democrats would lose or gain that many seats in either the Senate or House if McCain were president. The guy loved the maverick label and it would have driven him to negotiate with the Dems a lot so he could keep it.

[Phatscotty]

Free market capitalism would not be as inhibited. Unemployment would probably be under 6.5 percent. The media would be doing their daily death counts for Aghanistan. The Democrats would be looking at gaining seats in The House, Senate and possibly the governorships. Sarah Palin would have taken her place as the next Dan Quayle, sufficiently smashed by the media and unable to run for the presidency. Barrack Obama would still be everyone's hero and he and the Clintons would be looking for ways to subtly denigrate each other as they prepare for runs in 2012. The liberal media would be going on about how a decade of Bush style politics are screwing us over. There would still be a budget deficit, but nowhere near what is now. Health care cost would not have went up 20 percent and we would have tort reform instead of socialized health care, excuse me 'the public option.' Bureaucracy and socialism would not be as rampant. Liberals would be feel like victims still. They would be calling blood for oil and the whole 9 yards and screaming more about corporatism run a muck.

Wow, I bet you would be correct about most of that.

You forgot 1 tho "We'd be at a red level terror threat right about now"

[BigBallinStalin]

Free market capitalism would not be as inhibited. Unemployment would probably be under 6.5 percent. The media would be doing their daily death counts for Aghanistan. The Democrats would be looking at gaining seats in The House, Senate and possibly the governorships. Sarah Palin would have taken her place as the next Dan Quayle, sufficiently smashed by the media and unable to run for the presidency. Barrack Obama would still be everyone's hero and he and the Clintons would be looking for ways to subtly denigrate each other as they prepare for runs in 2012. The liberal media would be going on about how a decade of Bush style politics are screwing us over. There would still be a budget deficit, but nowhere near what is now. Health care cost would not have went up 20 percent and we would have tort reform instead of socialized health care, excuse me 'the public option.' Bureaucracy and socialism would not be as rampant. Liberals would be feel like victims still. They would be calling blood for oil and the whole 9 yards and screaming more about corporatism run a muck.

How would we have tort reform?

That was what McCain campaigned on (along with selling beyond state lines to create competition) as his argument against Obamacare.

So, you're going on what he campaigned for?
...

C'mon, man... haha, you know that's no guarantee of what we could've had.

[HapSmo19]

The guy loved the maverick label and it would have driven him to negotiate with the Dems a lot so he could keep it.

He stopped being a maverick in 2000 when he endorsed(started sucking the penis of) G.W..

[ViperOverLord]

I think his age would be his largest handicap (particularly depending on who his running mate was, but even if it was a good option). You're right that he definitely paid for Bush...no question about that.

Speaking of that, shouldn't he be dead by now? I know that was one of the arguments against voting for him since Palin would then become president.

I think it was a legitimate argument. The idea of Sarah Palin as our President would have been enough for me to vote against him even if his voting record on military matters weren't blasphemous.

And why is Palin worse than Obama?

[oVo]

When the first President George Bush said, "Read my lips, no new taxes," did you believe he actually meant it or that it was even possible for such a thing to really occur?

[ViperOverLord]

When the first President George Bush said, "Read my lips, no new taxes," did you believe he actually meant it or that it was even possible for such a thing to really occur?

You're just throwing shit at a wall and hoping it sticks aren't you? BTW - Who are you even talking to and what does this refer to?

[Woodruff]

I think his age would be his largest handicap (particularly depending on who his running mate was, but even if it was a good option). You're right that he definitely paid for Bush...no question about that.

Speaking of that, shouldn't he be dead by now? I know that was one of the arguments against voting for him since Palin would then become president.

I think it was a legitimate argument. The idea of Sarah Palin as our President would have been enough for me to vote against him even if his voting record on military matters weren't blasphemous.

And why is Palin worse than Obama?

Not only is Palin all about saying/doing whatever it takes to follow the money (as Obama appears to have been), but she's got the religious nutjob angle added in on top of it.

For all the complaints about Obama's lack of experience, Palin's is even less.

Palin's personal life screams hypocricy, whereas I've seen only very limited evidence of this in Obama's.

[Woodruff]

When the first President George Bush said, "Read my lips, no new taxes," did you believe he actually meant it or that it was even possible for such a thing to really occur?

You're just throwing shit at a wall and hoping it sticks aren't you?

oVo...don't be trying to steal The Master's tactic...he'll get very angry with you.

[ViperOverLord]

When the first President George Bush said, "Read my lips, no new taxes," did you believe he actually meant it or that it was even possible for such a thing to really occur?

You're just throwing shit at a wall and hoping it sticks aren't you?

oVo...don't be trying to steal The Master's tactic...he'll get very angry with you.

Woodruff, don't be so formal. You can call me Señor OverLord

[AndyDufresne]

SCANDAL!

John McCain Caught Playing iPhone Game During Syria Senate Hearing






--Andy

[GoranZ]

SCANDAL!

John McCain Caught Playing iPhone Game During Syria Senate Hearing






--Andy

Obviously Syria is not among his priorities... I don't blame him, its on the other side of the globe for him

[oVo]

This is probably for real --and intentional-- as John attempts
to improve his appeal to young voters. He's already the only
candidate to ever make use of a MILF running mate.

What do you think the Sharpie is for?

[BigBallinStalin]

This is probably for real --and intentional-- as John attempts
to improve his appeal to young voters. He's already the only
candidate to ever make use of a MILF running mate.

What do you think the Sharpie is for?

To cross out parts of any report he doesn't like to think about.

[Phatscotty]

SCANDAL!

John McCain Caught Playing iPhone Game During Syria Senate Hearing






--Andy

Obviously Syria is not among his priorities... I don't blame him, its on the other side of the globe for him

Mccain's mind is already made up. He's not listening to speeches meant to persuade him into all of a sudden becoming dovish.

[AAFitz]

And what if President John McCain died?

He goes, we go.

In all seriousness, I loved John McCain before he sold out. I think he was absolutely a man of integrity and someone who stood by his principles, and would have been a tremendous leader, and our country would be fundamentally different, if he were president instead of Bush. At some point however, he got too caught up in winning the party, instead of winning the people, who I think he could have won easily. Its why Bush was such a mistake....He took the place that great men should have been, McCain being one of them.

[AAFitz]

SCANDAL!

John McCain Caught Playing iPhone Game During Syria Senate Hearing






--Andy

Obviously Syria is not among his priorities... I don't blame him, its on the other side of the globe for him

Mccain's mind is already made up. He's not listening to speeches meant to persuade him into all of a sudden becoming dovish.

Whoa now, just a minute...I thought you supported that Pete or Paul or whatever that guys name was?

[BigBallinStalin]

And what if President John McCain died?

He goes, we go.

In all seriousness, I loved John McCain before he sold out. I think he was absolutely a man of integrity and someone who stood by his principles, and would have been a tremendous leader, and our country would be fundamentally different, if he were president instead of Bush. At some point however, he got too caught up in winning the party, instead of winning the people, who I think he could have won easily. Its why Bush was such a mistake....He took the place that great men should have been, McCain being one of them.

The US would've been at war with 2x as many nations--including Iran, if the 'morally righteous' McCain had more power. The man's bent on killing people, so if that's your idea of integrity, then good god. I guess it becomes magically good when the Almighty Government does it.

[oVo]

And what if President John McCain died?

He goes, we go.

In all seriousness, I loved John McCain before he sold out. I think he was absolutely a man of integrity and someone who stood by his principles, and would have been a tremendous leader, and our country would be fundamentally different, if he were president instead of Bush. At some point however, he got too caught up in winning the party, instead of winning the people, who I think he could have won easily. Its why Bush was such a mistake....He took the place that great men should have been, McCain being one of them.

I too liked McCain, as a personality he seemed nice enough and it also seemed that he wanted some positive change. But I now believe it was the same snowjob all career politicians toss out at the drop of a hat. In his first campaign vs Bush when they were making appearances in South Carolina and he was actually on stage with Shrub, it became obvious he had no balls. Shrub was trailing in the polls and on the verge of calling it quits when Karl Rove tossed the total bullshit rumors into the fan and poor John had no response.

[karel]

Were would the U.S. be if John McCain won the presidential election? would thing be different?

if he was prez,we would be in 3 more wars,no thx...

[oVo]

If McCain had won the election? The stress would have already
killed him and Palin would have made history as the first
female American President, by default.

Also the old maverick seemed to be clueless on the economy
beyond the Wall Street lobby financial incentives he receives,
so we'd still be bent over enjoying a good rodgering.

[thegreekdog]

Also the old maverick seemed to be clueless on the economy
beyond the Wall Street lobby financial incentives he receives,
so we'd still be bent over enjoying a good rodgering.

What in the actual f*ck? I mean, seriously, are you just willfully ignorant or willfully partisan?

Do me a favor, find out how many financial incentives President Obama received from the Wall Street lobby. Or, alternatively, list the positions that the president's high-ranking financial advisors have held and what firms they worked for.

Seriously...

[oVo]

A big part of our Corporate Democracy is financed by Wall Street Bankers. The Bailout began while George Bush was in office and continued when Barack Obama took office. No career politician is out of their reach regardless of party affiliation. They gave millions of dollars in political contributions on all sides and reaped millions of dollars in bonuses, even after receiving bailout money to remain solvent.

Hundreds of billions of tax dollars bailed out the Banks and the economy was still dragging as those same Banks were not providing loans to businesses for new projects.