Fighting a Speeding Ticket

[MoB Deadly]

Ill try to keep this short.

My car went into the shop, so I had a loaner car I never drove before.
I have a long history of speeding tickets.
Pulled over for 56 in a 35.
I told the officer that I have never driven this car before
He wrote me a ticket and told me that I should plea Not Guilty and fight it.
I know wording is everything... He said, "I have to prove how fast you were going and where you were speeding, and that I should at least get it knocked down where it didn't give me points on my license"

1. I attempted to read the ticket, I was not caught via radar or anything, it looks like he did a very quick D = RT over like .2 miles? (I will double check)
2. I will double check the location he said I was speeding, he could have made an error in that on purpose? At first glance the address looks close but it doesn't completely add up.
3. I know cops schedule their court dates all at once, so I should almost definitely try to get a continuance and reschedule it right?
4. I also know the basics, dress nice, be professional, yaddda yadda.
5. does anyone have any other specific advice? What should I expect and are there any specific things I should say?

Thanks.

[*Pixar*]

stop speeding you demon!

[#1_stunna]

I tried to fight a ticket once.

here is the deal.

you get piled up in a courtroom with all kinds of other people.

judge starts calling peoples names; walk up to the stand and they are dismissed.

why?

because their officer failed to show up to court.

my name came up. I looked around and there is only about 4 people left in the room.

go figure we all got pulled over by the same cop and THAT ASSHOLE HAD THE AUDACITY TO SHOW UP.

So i had to pay for my ticket and the other hundred people got off scotch free.

so its your call.

[TheMissionary]

Check and re-check your ticket, look for any discrepancies. The slightest mistake can lead to the dismissal. If you see adequate grounds that it could be dismissed, fight it. Never admit fault. Even if you say you were speeding because it was a new car to you, you were still speeding.

[MoB Deadly]

stop speeding you demon!

stfu noob

I tried to fight a ticket once.
judge starts calling peoples names; walk up to the stand and they are dismissed.

why?

because their officer failed to show up to court.

Completely dismissed? Or just knocked down to a lesser charge?

Check and re-check your ticket, look for any discrepancies. The slightest mistake can lead to the dismissal. If you see adequate grounds that it could be dismissed, fight it. Never admit fault. Even if you say you were speeding because it was a new car to you, you were still speeding.

Check and re-check your ticket, look for any discrepancies. The slightest mistake can lead to the dismissal. If you see adequate grounds that it could be dismissed, fight it. Never admit fault. Even if you say you were speeding because it was a new car to you, you were still speeding.

Can I say I don't know how fast I was going, or should I deny speeding, or should I try to avoid the question?


Will I get reamed by the judge for my prior speeding on my driving record?
Will I have to convince the judge that I care about the ticket and I will change my driving ways?

Or does the judge not give 2 fucks?

Thanks all

[#1_stunna]

I can only assume it was totally dismissed.

[muy_thaiguy]

stop speeding you demon!

stfu noob

Seriously, stop speeding. Or they can and will take away your liscense.

I tried to fight a ticket once.
judge starts calling peoples names; walk up to the stand and they are dismissed.

why?

because their officer failed to show up to court.

Completely dismissed? Or just knocked down to a lesser charge?[/quote]Dismessed is dismissed.

Check and re-check your ticket, look for any discrepancies. The slightest mistake can lead to the dismissal. If you see adequate grounds that it could be dismissed, fight it. Never admit fault. Even if you say you were speeding because it was a new car to you, you were still speeding.

Check and re-check your ticket, look for any discrepancies. The slightest mistake can lead to the dismissal. If you see adequate grounds that it could be dismissed, fight it. Never admit fault. Even if you say you were speeding because it was a new car to you, you were still speeding.

Can I say I don't know how fast I was going, or should I deny speeding, or should I try to avoid the question?[/quote]If you do the first one, they'll slap on negligent driving charges, which would make it that much worse. Its not an excuse at all.

Will I get reamed by the judge for my prior speeding on my driving record?

Very good chance of it. May even lose your liscense.

Will I have to convince the judge that I care about the ticket and I will change my driving ways?

Or does the judge not give 2 fucks?

Thanks all

Depends on the judge. Some are more lenient, but if you're speeding record is as bad as it sounds, good chance you'll get you're liscense suspended.

[#1_stunna]

oh also, do deferred adjudication.

[BigBallinStalin]

(1) You can file to motion for a nonmoving violation (e.g. bump the speeding ticket down to a parking violation).

http://courts.alaska.gov/motions.htm#file
(Looks like good advice on what I mean here, but be sure to check out your particular State's website on this). The general ideas are the same, but the specific laws/wording may differ.


(2) Do what the officer says. Contest it. In the great State of Louisiana, if the officer doesn't appear to court twice in a row, then the ticket is dropped. So, he could be suggesting that's what he'll do (maybe).

Can I say I don't know how fast I was going, or should I deny speeding, or should I try to avoid the question?
Will I get reamed by the judge for my prior speeding on my driving record?
Will I have to convince the judge that I care about the ticket and I will change my driving ways?
Or does the judge not give 2 fucks?

It depends on the judge, but assume they're still human. Don't waste their time with weird promises. Just keep denying that you were speeding; be frank, but don't be rude while repeating yourself if need be. Judges generally won't care about you unless you get swarmy with them; then you're f'ed, so be very polite at all times.

[MoB Deadly]

Depends on the judge. Some are more lenient, but if you're speeding record is as bad as it sounds, good chance you'll get you're liscense suspended.

Pretty much I started out badly. In 2011 I had to take the special test to reduce 2 points off my license so I didnt lose it.

Then I drove clean for 2 years so I should have lost 2 more points.

Then I got pulled over In June out of state. (I dont think points are included out of state)
Then I just got pulled over again, where points are threatening.

[BigBallinStalin]

If you really value spending less of your life on the road (thanks to speeding), and wish to avoid wasting time in courts, losing money in fines, and stressing about silly license points systems, then I'd recommend the following products:

*Laser Jammers
Laser Interceptor Jammer, $550
https://www.laser-interceptorusa.com/in ... path=59_66

Blinder HP-905 Compact Laser Jammer, $600, 2year warranty
http://www.buyradardetectors.com/produc ... p-905.aspx

Blinder M47 X-Treme Laser Jammer, $600, 2year
http://www.buyradardetectors.com/produc ... treme.aspx

Those are the three best in the market.



Radar Detectors

(concealed)
Escort Qi45, $550
http://www.buyradardetectors.com/produc ... -qi45.aspx

Whistler Pro 3450, $150
http://www.buyradardetectors.com/produc ... -3450.aspx


(open)
Beltronics Vector 955, $160
http://www.buyradardetectors.com/produc ... r-955.aspx

Beltronics RX65 Radar Detector (Red Display), $250
http://www.buyradardetectors.com/produc ... -rx65.aspx


(undetectable -- for States where radar detectors are prohibited)
Beltronics STi Driver Radar Detector, $400
http://www.buyradardetectors.com/produc ... river.aspx

Beltronics STi Magnum Radar Detector, $500
http://www.radarbusters.com/radar-detec ... &aid=18058



And if you wanna get fancy:


CB (radios):

Uniden 520 + Lil Will Antenna
$50 + $60

Radio Shack Pro-107
Radio Shack Pro-106


Red Light/Speed Camera detector:

Cheetah C50, $100
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003O95CQ6

[MoB Deadly]

Thank you BBS.

[BigBallinStalin]

No problem. Once you've made a $500-$1000 investment, your life will be much less stressful, and you'll break even--depending on how much you value your time, well-being, and money.

[isaiah40]

1. Check to see if your state requires all traffic citations to be notarized.
2. Was the cops car unmarked? If so, some states require that unmarked patrol cars to have a sticker in the rear window and/or official plates.
3. Check to see if anyone in your state fought a speeding ticket on the grounds of speed limits being unconstitutional, and see how they won.

[thegreekdog]

In my experience, police tend to not show up in court (especially in larger cities - they have better things to do). He/she isn't there, it's only good stuff for you.

[Serbia]

I tried to fight a ticket once. I won too, the officer suggested the judge take it under advisement. I was 16, and forgot to give the officer my proof of insurance. I was essentially pulled over for "changing lanes in front of a police officer". Cop even told me I wasn't speeding. But he gave me a ticket for lack of insurance. Took it to court, even the cop was on my side, judge took it under advisement.

All that meant was instead of paying the damn ticket, I paid court costs. I no longer have time to sit in a court room just to pay for fucking court costs. I just pay my tickets now. I just try not to get many.

Bollocks.

[DoomYoshi]

stop speeding you demon!

This. Slow the f*ck down.

Pulled over for 56 in a 35.

Tell the Judge:Try using SI units, then I will take your laws seriously. See if you can get a fast one and punch him in the dick. The french invented everything good about the us (freedom, liberty, equality) so why not the measuring?

3. I know cops schedule their court dates all at once, so I should almost definitely try to get a continuance and reschedule it right?

How the f*ck are they allowed to do that? I have tons of court dates that I can`t just switch all willy-nilly. One time i was under subpeona to testify against the Hell`s Angels at the same time that I had a date with Judge Judy cuz my neighbour didn`t like that I killed her dog with a flame thrower. Dont get me started on the time I had to go back in time to Nurmeberg.

[oVo]

Curious enough, some jurisdictions allow you to just pay
a little extra and have the ticket expunged.

I've managed this just once. So if you discover such a thing
is possible I recommend paying up and moving on.

[BigBallinStalin]

stop speeding you demon!

This. Slow the f*ck down.

Why? Is it speed that kills, or incompetent driving skills? I'd go with the latter. Why allow the law to bring everyone down to the lowest common denominator?

[DoomYoshi]

stop speeding you demon!

This. Slow the f*ck down.

Why? Is it speed that kills, or incompetent driving skills? I'd go with the latter. Why allow the law to bring everyone down to the lowest common denominator?

Maybe out in the boonies of Georgia, you have stretches of road where speed and driving skill are not incompatible. Here in southern Ontario, if you drive fast, you are invariably tailgating (or zipping in and out of lanes) which I would argue is not good driving skill.

Second, all traffic control studies prove that invariably, the number one factor involved in collisions is speed. Despite what "mad skillz" little Johnny might think he has while driving MOms fird explorrer.

Also, the blitzkreig strategy was successful because Generals allowed their troops to move at their fastest possible speed without lowering everything to the lowest common denominator. Do you want to give the Nazis the morale victory here? Or are you going to let the British decide the rules of the road?

[BigBallinStalin]

stop speeding you demon!

This. Slow the f*ck down.

Why? Is it speed that kills, or incompetent driving skills? I'd go with the latter. Why allow the law to bring everyone down to the lowest common denominator?

Maybe out in the boonies of Georgia, you have stretches of road where speed and driving skill are not incompatible. Here in southern Ontario, if you drive fast, you are invariably tailgating (or zipping in and out of lanes) which I would argue is not good driving skill.

Second, all traffic control studies prove that invariably, the number one factor involved in collisions is speed. Despite what "mad skillz" little Johnny might think he has while driving MOms fird explorrer.

Also, the blitzkreig strategy was successful because Generals allowed their troops to move at their fastest possible speed without lowering everything to the lowest common denominator. Do you want to give the Nazis the morale victory here? Or are you going to let the British decide the rules of the road?

The British decide the rules of the road? I should've known you favored the left.

Second, all traffic control studies prove that invariably, the number one factor involved in collisions is speed.

Did they factor in 'stupidity' (as in poor skills)? There's good reason to be skeptical of these studies.

(which reminds me, if any idiot can get a drivers license, then there's a problem with the filtering process--e.g. the drivers' test, and not so much a problem with speeding).

[DoomYoshi]

No, poor skills and stupidity are what they are trying to determine.

Poor skills and stupidity being defined as causing/otherwise being in accident, scored heavier if there is death or extreme value involved.

Do you not think that having head-on collisions which end your life are a reasonable proxy for measuring driving skills?

The British, since Liddel-Hart invented the blitzkreig. Duh. Follow my train. I`m in Miami, trick.

[BigBallinStalin]

No, poor skills and stupidity are what they are trying to determine.

Poor skills and stupidity being defined as causing/otherwise being in accident, scored heavier if there is death or extreme value involved.

Do you not think that having head-on collisions which end your life are a reasonable proxy for measuring driving skills?

The British, since Liddel-Hart invented the blitzkreig. Duh. Follow my train. I`m in Miami, trick.

I still don't find the correlation satisfying. Besides, there's plenty of people who speed yet do not cause or are involved in wrecks. I'm gonna place this on incompetence of the drivers and incompetence of the test-givers.

I'm onto you, DoomYoshi. If you admit that you're the one creating these tests, then I can promise safe passage to Canada.

[oVo]

I don't know, it has taken the authorities in Texas
too many years to realize alcohol content has an
effect on a person's ability to drive.

Of course they still haven't figured out what to do
about these intoxicants when they find them.

In far too many instances the actual act of crashing an automobile
while shit faced drunk has to be repeated several times before
a court determines an individual should not be driving.