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Re: Breaking bad discussion thread

Postby betiko on Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:42 am

Oh yeah, jessie is definitely more hateable than walt. This little prick keeps on fucking up his own life, constantly going deeper and deeper under an ocean of shit. This is the story of a guy who could have it all 10 times per season, and who fucks up 10 time per season. All this with a corny "oh, but i have such a great heart" attitude. Kill that fucker for once please!

And yes, mike was an awesome character, by killing him walt showed again how fucked up and illogical his mind is. Do you guys remember the fly episode? The opening was such a pain, you really wanted to send walt to a mental institution...
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Re: Breaking bad discussion thread

Postby Symmetry on Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:08 pm

betiko wrote:Oh yeah, jessie is definitely more hateable than walt. This little prick keeps on fucking up his own life, constantly going deeper and deeper under an ocean of shit. This is the story of a guy who could have it all 10 times per season, and who fucks up 10 time per season. All this with a corny "oh, but i have such a great heart" attitude. Kill that fucker for once please!

And yes, mike was an awesome character, by killing him walt showed again how fucked up and illogical his mind is. Do you guys remember the fly episode? The opening was such a pain, you really wanted to send walt to a mental institution...


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Re: Breaking bad discussion thread

Postby john9blue on Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:18 pm

jesse is the series' redemptive character. how can you hate that guy?
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Re: Breaking bad discussion thread

Postby Timminz on Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:44 am

He's a f*ck up.

I like him, and he's a very tragic character, but he still fucks things up, all the time.
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Re: Breaking bad discussion thread

Postby betiko on Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:29 am

What s all this fuss with american people about redemption? I thought there was another very popular concept; a Loser with a big L on his forehead. Jessie is a perpetual loser, he fucks up every oportunity and turns everything into tragic. If the show didn t last so long he could be likeable, but after 5 seasons and watching this idiot never learn you can t possibly feel empathy or whatsoever for him.
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Re: Breaking bad discussion thread

Postby neanderpaul14 on Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:28 pm

I gotta admit I was very disappointed that Walt didn't finish off Hank himself. I really wanted him to look him straight in the eyes and do an impressive soliloquy about how blind Hank was to not see the truth, and then put one in his forehead. Although he slightly redeemed himself, in my eyes, when he told Jesse "I watched Jane die." I must say I laughed my ass off when he said that :twisted: :twisted:

Also who else thinks Marie is going on a little trip to "Belize"?

betiko wrote:What s all this fuss with american people about redemption? I thought there was another very popular concept; a Loser with a big L on his forehead. Jessie is a perpetual loser, he fucks up every oportunity and turns everything into tragic. If the show didn t last so long he could be likeable, but after 5 seasons and watching this idiot never learn you can t possibly feel empathy or whatsoever for him.


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Yup this f*cking dipshit could f*ck up a wet dream
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Re: Breaking bad discussion thread

Postby Timminz on Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:31 am

It's tough to feel empathy for any of the characters, at this point.
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Re: Breaking bad discussion thread

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:58 am

betiko wrote:Oh yeah, jessie is definitely more hateable than walt. This little prick keeps on fucking up his own life, constantly going deeper and deeper under an ocean of shit. This is the story of a guy who could have it all 10 times per season, and who fucks up 10 time per season. All this with a corny "oh, but i have such a great heart" attitude. Kill that fucker for once please!

And yes, mike was an awesome character, by killing him walt showed again how fucked up and illogical his mind is. Do you guys remember the fly episode? The opening was such a pain, you really wanted to send walt to a mental institution...


man I was smiling reading what you said about Jesse. Seems to me Jesse is a feelings based character, and Walt is a cerebral based. Probably a conscious yin-yang thing the writers nailed.

I think a lot of stuff was a statement about Walt's ego, and just how much he thought he could get away with and have his say be final on the smallest things and never be reversed. Like when he hit on that principal, he probably really thought he had a chance. And I think that marked a transition point as well when Walt stepped out of his everyday life and became Heisenburg.
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Re: Breaking bad discussion thread

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:01 am

Timminz wrote:It's tough to feel empathy for any of the characters, at this point.


Hank? Maybe not at first, but as time went on, especially in the end, I really came to respect him.
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Re: Breaking bad discussion thread

Postby john9blue on Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:19 am

sounds like the jesse haters can't appreciate good writing.
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Re: Breaking bad discussion thread

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:00 pm

omg omg omg omg it's time

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Re: Breaking bad discussion thread

Postby nagerous on Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:22 pm

Nice ending, concluded well. What Dexter should have done... :roll:
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Re: Breaking bad discussion thread

Postby nagerous on Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:46 pm

Oh well, Walking Dead returns 13th October!

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Re: Breaking bad discussion thread

Postby denominator on Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:27 pm

nagerous wrote:Nice ending, concluded well. What Dexter should have done... :roll:


Agreed. Dexter was miserable. The cinematography of Breaking Bad was particularly exceptional.
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Re: Breaking bad discussion thread

Postby john9blue on Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:36 pm

i noticed a lot of similarities between this show and death note, which is considered to be one of the best animes ever (and is my favorite out of the 5 or so that i've watched). some of you will probably enjoy it. my first CC avatar was from this show.

it's 37 episodes long. here's an english dubbed version that got uploaded onto youtube recently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfa_Qu-4djk
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Re: Breaking bad discussion thread

Postby Phatscotty on Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:06 pm

nagerous wrote:Oh well, Walking Dead returns 13th October!

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The ending of BB twas badass, but I like Walking Dead better....And I was ripping on zombie people the last couple years. OKAY I ADMIT I WAS WRONG!!!!

I am especially enjoying the soundtrack



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Re: Breaking bad discussion thread

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Oct 02, 2013 5:40 pm

Ann Coulter writes a piece!

'Breaking Bad': A Christian Parable

For readers interested in an Obamacare column this week, please refer to the 40,000 columns I've written on the subject from 2008 to last week.

This one's about AMC's smash TV series "Breaking Bad" -- the most Christian Hollywood production since Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ." (Not surprisingly, both were big hits!)

It may seem counterintuitive that a TV show about a meth cook could have a conservative theme, much less a Christian one, but that's because people think Christian movies are supposed to have camels -- or a "Little House on the Prairie" cast. READ THE BIBLE! It's chockablock with gore, incest, jealousy, murder, love and hate.

Because the Bible tells the truth, the lessons are eternal -- which also marks the difference between great literature and passing amusements. Recall that even Jesus usually made his points with stories.

The sweet, soulful druggie on "Breaking Bad," Jesse Pinkman, illustrates -- heartbreakingly -- the monumental importance of the cross. Believing he is responsible for his girlfriend Jane's death by overdose, Jesse goes to some godless hippie rehab center. Naturally, he is still unable to forgive himself.

Perfectly rationally, he concludes: "I learned it in rehab. It's all about accepting who you really are. I accept who I am. ... I'm the bad guy." He returns to cooking meth. Mayhem, murder and disaster ensue.

There's only one thing in the world that ever could have allowed Jesse to forgive himself: The understanding that God sent his only son to die for Jesse's sins, no matter how abominable. To not forgive himself after that would be an insult to God, dismissing what Jesus did on the cross as not such a big deal.

The meth cook's wife, Skyler, illustrates why Scripture instructs us to flee evil and admonishes: "You shall have no other gods before me." When Skyler discovers her husband is a meth cook, she stays with him, despite hating him for what he's done. Eventually she becomes his partner in crime. It worked out badly for her.

The only explanation for Skyler's decision to stay is that she still loves Walt and -- as she tells her divorce lawyer -- she is desperate to prevent her son from finding out his father is a meth cook. Her husband and son have become her "gods," whom she values more than the one true God.

In such cases, Jesus does not mince words: "And a person's enemies will be those of his own household. Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves a son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me."

But the most incessantly proved lesson of "Breaking Bad" is about the greatest sin of all: pride. Other than Dante's Lucifer or Shakespeare's Iago -- and, of course, the Bible's Judas -- there is no better study of the sin of pride than "Breaking Bad's" Walter White.

A high school chemistry teacher, Walt starts out as a sympathetic character -- even if you don't totally buy that a basically good guy would turn to cooking methamphetamine to provide for his family before he dies of lung cancer. But throughout five seasons, we watch him become irredeemably evil because of his pride.

Contrarily, Walt's DEA agent brother-in-law, Hank Schrader, is something of a buffoon at the beginning of the series. But because of his godly choices -- the polar opposite of Walt's -- he ends up becoming not only an extremely likable person, but a deeply good and heroic one. Even his stupid jokes get funny.

He is the manly one.

It's Hank whom Walt's underage son calls after being arrested for trying to buy beer. Hank's the one who warns the son about drug use by taking him to meet Wendy the meth-addict whore. Hank is the voice of gentle rectitude when Walt monstrously gets his son so drunk he throws up into the pool.

Along with some normal human imperfections, Hank embodies all the Christian virtues -- patience, diligence, humility, kindness. Indeed, Hank is the only character who always seems to be helping everyone else with their problems -- shoplifting, marital separation, cancer, "fugue" states -- rather than burdening them with his own.

(In accordance with Hollywood's modern Hays Code prohibiting any realistic depiction of Christianity, there is none in "Breaking Bad" -- which is even weirder than the fact that everyone on the show is still using flip phones. In real life, Hank, Skyler and Jesse would have been throwing themselves on their knees, praying to Jesus -- in which case the series would have ended with my favorite five minutes of television ever, other than the first Romney-Obama debate: Hank arresting Walt.)

What's so fabulous about Walt's descent into darkness is that the audience is tricked into joining Walt's temporizing -- at least through his first few steps.

One of the earliest and most subtly cruel of Walt's bad acts (subtle only in the sense that no one dies) is his allowing a high school janitor to be humiliated and arrested in front of the entire school, accused of stealing the lab equipment that Walt himself had purloined to make meth.

We've met the janitor before. He was kind to Walt, cleaning up after finding him throwing up in a school bathroom from the chemo, and offering him chewing gum.

But we went along with the sacrifice of this good man, barely giving it another thought. Yes, it was a tough break for him, but at least our hero Walt was off the hook! The important thing was, Walt was safe from the inquiries of his bloodhound brother-in-law. Whew!

Worst of all, when Walt watches Jesse's girlfriend, Jane, choke to death on her own vomit -- inadvertently caused by Walt's jostling Jesse, flipping Jane onto her back -- we rejoice. We don't even wince, as we did with the blameless janitor. Jane was trouble: She had blackmailed Walt and threatened to blackmail him again. She also had turned Jesse onto heroin. Good. She's dead.

In this way, the viewers are tricked into being co-conspirators with Walt. But, luckily, we are only observers. We can escape Walt's choices. He can't.

Soon, we begin to realize that Walt's first malevolent acts -- the ones we went along with! -- made it easier for him to rationalize the next one and the next, until there's no limit to what he won't do, including violently attacking his wife, kidnapping his infant daughter, ordering the murder of his virtual-son, Jesse, and, perhaps most sinisterly, coldly informing Jesse that he had stood and watched as Jane choked to death.

He hadn't made any of these increasingly depraved moral choices for "his family" -- as he finally admits in the last episode. It was for himself, to feed his pride.

Walt followed his "personal ethics" -- which Pope Francis has reportedly said is good enough for God. "Breaking Bad" demonstrates what the Proverbs teach: There is a way that appears to be right, but in the end it leads to death.
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Re: Breaking bad discussion thread

Postby betiko on Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:48 pm

denominator wrote:
nagerous wrote:Nice ending, concluded well. What Dexter should have done... :roll:


Agreed. Dexter was miserable. The cinematography of Breaking Bad was particularly exceptional.


ahhhh FU guys i still didn't watch dexter's last episode!!! if i want to get spoiled i go in the dexter thread, came in here cause I watched BB's last episode and couldn't be spoiled.

regarding BB, well what do you guys think will happen to jessie now? living the carpenter's dream?

oh and tried once walking dead, really hate that kind of theme.
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Re: Breaking bad discussion thread

Postby Timminz on Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:24 pm

betiko wrote:
denominator wrote:
nagerous wrote:Nice ending, concluded well. What Dexter should have done... :roll:


Agreed. Dexter was miserable. The cinematography of Breaking Bad was particularly exceptional.


ahhhh FU guys i still didn't watch dexter's last episode!!! if i want to get spoiled i go in the dexter thread, came in here cause I watched BB's last episode and couldn't be spoiled.

regarding BB, well what do you guys think will happen to jessie now? living the carpenter's dream?

oh and tried once walking dead, really hate that kind of theme.


All that was said was that it was bad. If you didn't expect that, after these past few years, you haven't been paying close enough attention.
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Re: Breaking bad discussion thread

Postby betiko on Sat Oct 05, 2013 9:01 am

Timminz wrote:
betiko wrote:
denominator wrote:
nagerous wrote:Nice ending, concluded well. What Dexter should have done... :roll:


Agreed. Dexter was miserable. The cinematography of Breaking Bad was particularly exceptional.


ahhhh FU guys i still didn't watch dexter's last episode!!! if i want to get spoiled i go in the dexter thread, came in here cause I watched BB's last episode and couldn't be spoiled.

regarding BB, well what do you guys think will happen to jessie now? living the carpenter's dream?

oh and tried once walking dead, really hate that kind of theme.


All that was said was that it was bad. If you didn't expect that, after these past few years, you haven't been paying close enough attention.


Well dexter not killing daniel after he offered a truce that he refused... And episode 11 ending so well i did think that shit will happen. Maybe i shall leave it like that and not watch the finale if it s disapointing? Sounds like daniel will kill everyone except for dex who will go to jail and will be despised by his former coworkers. Another american morale ending after so much politically incorrectness... :(
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Re: Breaking bad discussion thread

Postby denominator on Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:52 am

betiko wrote:
Timminz wrote:
betiko wrote:
denominator wrote:
nagerous wrote:Nice ending, concluded well. What Dexter should have done... :roll:


Agreed. Dexter was miserable. The cinematography of Breaking Bad was particularly exceptional.


ahhhh FU guys i still didn't watch dexter's last episode!!! if i want to get spoiled i go in the dexter thread, came in here cause I watched BB's last episode and couldn't be spoiled.

regarding BB, well what do you guys think will happen to jessie now? living the carpenter's dream?

oh and tried once walking dead, really hate that kind of theme.


All that was said was that it was bad. If you didn't expect that, after these past few years, you haven't been paying close enough attention.


Well dexter not killing daniel after he offered a truce that he refused... And episode 11 ending so well i did think that shit will happen. Maybe i shall leave it like that and not watch the finale if it s disapointing? Sounds like daniel will kill everyone except for dex who will go to jail and will be despised by his former coworkers. Another american morale ending after so much politically incorrectness... :(


I think only watching 11 episodes would be more disappointing than watching the full 12. Just don't expect them to improve on the writing or storyline that they built for 11 weeks this season.
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Re: Breaking bad discussion thread

Postby Timminz on Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:24 pm

denominator wrote:
betiko wrote:
Timminz wrote:
betiko wrote:
denominator wrote:
nagerous wrote:Nice ending, concluded well. What Dexter should have done... :roll:


Agreed. Dexter was miserable. The cinematography of Breaking Bad was particularly exceptional.


ahhhh FU guys i still didn't watch dexter's last episode!!! if i want to get spoiled i go in the dexter thread, came in here cause I watched BB's last episode and couldn't be spoiled.

regarding BB, well what do you guys think will happen to jessie now? living the carpenter's dream?

oh and tried once walking dead, really hate that kind of theme.


All that was said was that it was bad. If you didn't expect that, after these past few years, you haven't been paying close enough attention.


Well dexter not killing daniel after he offered a truce that he refused... And episode 11 ending so well i did think that shit will happen. Maybe i shall leave it like that and not watch the finale if it s disapointing? Sounds like daniel will kill everyone except for dex who will go to jail and will be despised by his former coworkers. Another american morale ending after so much politically incorrectness... :(


I think only watching 11 episodes would be more disappointing than watching the full 12. Just don't expect them to improve on the writing or storyline that they built for 11 weeks this season.


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Re: Breaking bad discussion thread

Postby Phatscotty on Sat Nov 23, 2013 2:33 pm

wow, check out Aaron Paul. what a surprise, what a great performance too

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