Smart: Finnish, Swedes | Dumb: Italians, Spanish

[Lord Arioch]

As aswede i dont have much to say to this... i agree:)
But maybee this can shed some lights on why americans think its wrong?

http://www.google.se/imgres?imgurl=http ... CCsQ9QEwAA



Its possible the link will not work or take u to google i swedish, which by the way is a complicated language for most people to understand...

If it doesnt work feel free to google up your own: The world according to americans. Ought to do it for U

[thegreekdog]

so why don't we try to emulate the education systems of the most educated countries?

I suspect it would require levels of taxation,central planning and changes in attitudes that most Americans would not accept,(and a very long time to see any results)..

I was under the impression that the U.S. public education system was heavily centralized and reliant upon taxation, so I'm not sure I agree with your suspicion.

[chang50]

so why don't we try to emulate the education systems of the most educated countries?

I suspect it would require levels of taxation,central planning and changes in attitudes that most Americans would not accept,(and a very long time to see any results)..

I was under the impression that the U.S. public education system was heavily centralized and reliant upon taxation, so I'm not sure I agree with your suspicion.

By taxation levels,I meant increases in federal income taxes comensurate with income tax levels in Europe in order to allow more spending on state schools,whether this would require more centralisation is a moot point.

[thegreekdog]

so why don't we try to emulate the education systems of the most educated countries?

I suspect it would require levels of taxation,central planning and changes in attitudes that most Americans would not accept,(and a very long time to see any results)..

I was under the impression that the U.S. public education system was heavily centralized and reliant upon taxation, so I'm not sure I agree with your suspicion.

By taxation levels,I meant increases in federal income taxes comensurate with income tax levels in Europe in order to allow more spending on state schools,whether this would require more centralisation is a moot point.

I remain confused.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/2 ... 96875.html

The United States spends more money per student than any other country. From wiki (2005):

"According to a 2005 report from the OECD, the United States is tied for first place with Switzerland when it comes to annual spending per student on its public schools, with each of those two countries spending more than $11,000."

[DoomYoshi]

Are my nipples accurate?
Do you believe them to be?

[BigBallinStalin]

In short, if you have a larger pool idiots to select from, then expect worst results. If you can centrally plan over a much smaller population, then expect better results ('course, separating the results from the privates schools v. the public schools should be undertaken---not sure if this study does that. If not, any ideas on public policy should be scaled back accordingly).

For some reason I doubt there's a correlation there. Do China have the least intelligent population in Asia? I haven't checked and but according to your theory they should have because it's the most populace country.

Is that what my implication is? or is that what you say my implication is???

[john9blue]

This report in the OP compares people in 22 first world countries,no mention of third world nations in Africa ,the ridiculous proposition that US adults are dumber than the average human appears in a later post and has no relevance to the OP.The proposition that they are dumber than the average in this elite group is plausible,but impossibly difficult to evaluate accurately.

i understand. i wasn't replying to the OP, i was replying to the guy that i quoted in my post.

[nagerous]

It's a celebration bitches!

[chang50]

so why don't we try to emulate the education systems of the most educated countries?

I suspect it would require levels of taxation,central planning and changes in attitudes that most Americans would not accept,(and a very long time to see any results)..

I was under the impression that the U.S. public education system was heavily centralized and reliant upon taxation, so I'm not sure I agree with your suspicion.

By taxation levels,I meant increases in federal income taxes comensurate with income tax levels in Europe in order to allow more spending on state schools,whether this would require more centralisation is a moot point.

I remain confused.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/2 ... 96875.html

The United States spends more money per student than any other country. From wiki (2005):

"According to a 2005 report from the OECD, the United States is tied for first place with Switzerland when it comes to annual spending per student on its public schools, with each of those two countries spending more than $11,000."

In that case I'm baffled as well.You must be wasting a large slice of that money somehow.Are the problems organisational,or maybe cultural?

[chang50]

As aswede i dont have much to say to this... i agree:)
But maybee this can shed some lights on why americans think its wrong?

http://www.google.se/imgres?imgurl=http ... CCsQ9QEwAA



Its possible the link will not work or take u to google i swedish, which by the way is a complicated language for most people to understand...

If it doesnt work feel free to google up your own: The world according to americans. Ought to do it for U

Lol...funny 'cos there's more than a grain of truth in it.

[john9blue]

As aswede i dont have much to say to this... i agree:)
But maybee this can shed some lights on why americans think its wrong?

http://www.google.se/imgres?imgurl=http ... CCsQ9QEwAA



Its possible the link will not work or take u to google i swedish, which by the way is a complicated language for most people to understand...

If it doesnt work feel free to google up your own: The world according to americans. Ought to do it for U

Lol...funny 'cos there's more than a grain of truth in it.

the map's 100% accurate aside from santa and the badly drawn borders.

i suspect lord arioch is too over-educated to understand simple truths when he sees them.

[thegreekdog]

In that case I'm baffled as well.You must be wasting a large slice of that money somehow.Are the problems organisational,or maybe cultural?

In my opinion, both, but more cultural.

[Gillipig]

In short, if you have a larger pool idiots to select from, then expect worst results. If you can centrally plan over a much smaller population, then expect better results ('course, separating the results from the privates schools v. the public schools should be undertaken---not sure if this study does that. If not, any ideas on public policy should be scaled back accordingly).

For some reason I doubt there's a correlation there. Do China have the least intelligent population in Asia? I haven't checked and but according to your theory they should have because it's the most populace country.

Is that what my implication is? or is that what you say my implication is???

They're not mutually exclusive BBS. Although I know you'd like to think that's the case. lol

[fadedpsychosis]

In that case I'm baffled as well.You must be wasting a large slice of that money somehow.Are the problems organisational,or maybe cultural?

In my opinion, both, but more cultural.

+1

[BigBallinStalin]

In short, if you have a larger pool idiots to select from, then expect worst results. If you can centrally plan over a much smaller population, then expect better results ('course, separating the results from the privates schools v. the public schools should be undertaken---not sure if this study does that. If not, any ideas on public policy should be scaled back accordingly).

For some reason I doubt there's a correlation there. Do China have the least intelligent population in Asia? I haven't checked and but according to your theory they should have because it's the most populace country.

Is that what my implication is? or is that what you say my implication is???

They're not mutually exclusive BBS. Although I know you'd like to think that's the case. lol

You seem to be disagreeing with yourself then. How does that make you feel??

[Gillipig]

In short, if you have a larger pool idiots to select from, then expect worst results. If you can centrally plan over a much smaller population, then expect better results ('course, separating the results from the privates schools v. the public schools should be undertaken---not sure if this study does that. If not, any ideas on public policy should be scaled back accordingly).

For some reason I doubt there's a correlation there. Do China have the least intelligent population in Asia? I haven't checked and but according to your theory they should have because it's the most populace country.

Is that what my implication is? or is that what you say my implication is???

They're not mutually exclusive BBS. Although I know you'd like to think that's the case. lol

You seem to be disagreeing with yourself then. How does that make you feel??

Nope. Out of curiosity, what is it you don't understand about mutually exclusive events? Maybe I can help you with that.

[betiko]

it's pretty stupid cause in the first place the school programs are completely differentfrom one country to the next.
I have studied at some point in the french, the american and the spanish system. In some countries you would be much more advanced in certain math aspects, and much less in other math aspects, and you can really feel dumb when you see the things you have to catch up. In Spain I was surprised by the fact that it's all learning by heart and repeating exactly what you've learned by heart like a robot during your tests. No wonder there is so much cheating. I felt like in the fench and american system you had to analyse a given situation and use what you had learned to solve/demonstrate something. In the American system, you need to arrive prepared in class regarding the upcoming lecture. In France, you have no fucking clue about the upcoming class, you learn there more or less, then you try to figure what just happened when you're home. (instead of figuring what will happen like americans do)

[BigBallinStalin]

In short, if you have a larger pool idiots to select from, then expect worst results. If you can centrally plan over a much smaller population, then expect better results ('course, separating the results from the privates schools v. the public schools should be undertaken---not sure if this study does that. If not, any ideas on public policy should be scaled back accordingly).

For some reason I doubt there's a correlation there. Do China have the least intelligent population in Asia? I haven't checked and but according to your theory they should have because it's the most populace country.

Is that what my implication is? or is that what you say my implication is???

They're not mutually exclusive BBS. Although I know you'd like to think that's the case. lol

You seem to be disagreeing with yourself then. How does that make you feel??

Nope. Out of curiosity, what is it you don't understand about mutually exclusive events? Maybe I can help you with that.

I take it you're one of the few Swedes who's pulling down the national averages in literacy, problem solving, and maths?

[AslanTheKing]

I dont trust statistics,
i know plenty of people from univertitys,
i will not say they are the smartest,
and i wouldnt say people from vietnam, or portugal or.... are more intelligent
the education system is also very different in many countrys
u can find intelligent people in any society
as u can find a bunch of idiots also everywhere

[saxitoxin]

it's pretty stupid cause in the first place the school programs are completely differentfrom one country to the next.
I have studied at some point in the french, the american and the spanish system. In some countries you would be much more advanced in certain math aspects, and much less in other math aspects, and you can really feel dumb when you see the things you have to catch up. In Spain I was surprised by the fact that it's all learning by heart and repeating exactly what you've learned by heart like a robot during your tests. No wonder there is so much cheating. I felt like in the fench and american system you had to analyse a given situation and use what you had learned to solve/demonstrate something. In the American system, you need to arrive prepared in class regarding the upcoming lecture. In France, you have no fucking clue about the upcoming class, you learn there more or less, then you try to figure what just happened when you're home. (instead of figuring what will happen like americans do)

This is the most informative post of the thread!

Now in which school system the girls were the easiest? I'm betting Spain? (nietzsche wants to know)

Also, do countries other than Germany/Austria/Switzerland and USA have kindergarten?

[saxitoxin]

I dont trust statistics,
i know plenty of people from univertitys,
i will not say they are the smartest,
and i wouldnt say people from vietnam, or portugal or.... are more intelligent
the education system is also very different in many countrys
u can find intelligent people in any society
as u can find a bunch of idiots also everywhere

I read all of Aslan's posts like non rhyming poems.

[2dimes]

I dont trust statistics,
i know plenty of people from univertitys,
i will not say they are the smartest,
and i wouldnt say people from vietnam, or portugal or.... are more intelligent
the education system is also very different in many countrys
u can find intelligent people in any society
as u can find a bunch of idiots also everywhere

I read all of Aslan's posts like non rhyming poems.

Huh? Sorry I was distracted.

[mrswdk]

The UK and Sweden have an equivalent of kindergarten.

[fadedpsychosis]

This is the most informative post of the thread!

Now in which school system the girls were the easiest? I'm betting Spain? (nietzsche wants to know)

Also, do countries other than Germany/Austria/Switzerland and USA have kindergarten?

you disturb me with the implication that lines 2 and 3 are related...