Is the Christian god real or not? (vote now!)

[BigBallinStalin]

I'm sorry, I will try to write slowly...

The guy depicted in the pink dress is the Church's attempt to malign God.

On the contrary, that depiction is the pinnacle of the Church's homage to god. What you are calling a "dress" is patterned after a desert robe, which is what people assumed Jews of the Biblical period wore, and if you check Assyrian and Babylonian depictions of the Jews of the time, it's pretty much accurate.

The cherubim are naked because Europe during the Renaissance was rediscovering the freedoms of Classical times. After a millennium of being an armed camp under seige, finally the Vikings and Arabs and Mongols had all gone away, and Europe was finally going to enjoy some long-awaited peace and prosperity. Naturally, art of the time became very nostalgic about the other period of peace and prosperity, the Greco-Roman time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty#The_Greeks

Nostalgic indeed!

[BigBallinStalin]

I'm sorry, I will try to write slowly...

The guy depicted in the pink dress is the Church's attempt to malign God.

I apologize for assuming you wished to stay on-topic. We're talking about defining "Christian God" and not about what you think the Church has done to malign "God."

[_sabotage_]

The Church is not Christian if it does not uphold the teachings of Jesus.

Do they? Yes they uphold all the qualities attributed to the Pharisees, which Jesus calls hypocritical, selfish and done for the benefit of man, not God.

“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.

“Woe to you, experts in the law and you Pharisees, hypocrites! You cross land and sea to make one convert, and when you get one, you make him twice as much a child of hell as yourselves!

But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have one Teacher and you are all brothers. 9 And call no one your ‘father’ on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven.

“You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? 34Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town.

These are the words of Jesus, and therefore Christian that directly describe the teachers of the law as not following Christianity.

Why should we vote on a non-Christian God when asked to vote on a Christian one?

[Metsfanmax]

I'm not sure how to vote on this one.

I understand enough of what 'real' means, but can someone please define "Christian god" for me?

Does it matter? If the question is "Does X god exist," the answer is "no," independent of X.

Oh, that's an interesting argument. How did you arrive at that conclusion?

Probabilistically. Since there is no evidence available to point towards any of the infinite number of possible gods there could be, claiming that god has X set of features is essentially picking randomly from the possibilities, and one / infinity = zero.

[thegreekdog]

I'm sorry, I will try to write slowly...

The guy depicted in the pink dress is the Church's attempt to malign God.

On the contrary, that depiction is the pinnacle of the Church's homage to god. What you are calling a "dress" is patterned after a desert robe, which is what people assumed Jews of the Biblical period wore, and if you check Assyrian and Babylonian depictions of the Jews of the time, it's pretty much accurate.

The cherubim are naked because Europe during the Renaissance was rediscovering the freedoms of Classical times. After a millennium of being an armed camp under seige, finally the Vikings and Arabs and Mongols had all gone away, and Europe was finally going to enjoy some long-awaited peace and prosperity. Naturally, art of the time became very nostalgic about the other period of peace and prosperity, the Greco-Roman time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty#The_Greeks

Nostalgic indeed!

Reported for trolling TGD and greecpwns.

[mrswdk]

The cherubim are naked because Europe during the Renaissance was rediscovering the freedoms of Classical times. After a millennium of being an armed camp under seige, finally the Vikings and Arabs and Mongols had all gone away, and Europe was finally going to enjoy some long-awaited peace and prosperity. Naturally, art of the time became very nostalgic about the other period of peace and prosperity, the Greco-Roman time.

Such as the freedom to enjoy the company of naked children?

Also, you might wanna double-check but I'm pretty sure that at the time Michelangelo was painting the picture that we're talking about, various mini-states were busy warring over the land that would one day be Italy.

[betiko]

The cherubim are naked because Europe during the Renaissance was rediscovering the freedoms of Classical times. After a millennium of being an armed camp under seige, finally the Vikings and Arabs and Mongols had all gone away, and Europe was finally going to enjoy some long-awaited peace and prosperity. Naturally, art of the time became very nostalgic about the other period of peace and prosperity, the Greco-Roman time.

Such as the freedom to enjoy the company of naked children?

Also, you might wanna double-check but I'm pretty sure that at the time Michelangelo was painting the picture that we're talking about, various mini-states were busy warring over the land that would one day be Italy.

Unification of italy was way after that. The mini state in which you would find the sixtin chapel is still in place though