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[Anarkistsdream]

Alright, all of you... This goes out to all of you who spend FAR too much time arguing things on this forum that you will never convince any other posters about...

ARGUE THE OPPOSITE OF HOW YOU FEEL. You feel like PhatScotty, argue the opposite of him. Universalchiro, you are an atheist in this thread...

Can any of you actually look outside your own viewpoints long enough to truly argue the other side.

Debaters are forced to do this all the time in school, but adults just seem to refuse to view something in any other way.

So, let's hear from GreekDog, BBS, Symmetry, and everyone else. Can you do it?

[_sabotage_]

Chemtrails are not real. The supposed chemical is just water exhaust coming from the exhaust of the plane. They have been around forever and that is all that we are experiencing.

Aluminum oxide is present in the soil at much higher rates than in the air and the sample sites might have experienced contamination, for example one of the tests was marked "sludge" which we know contains soil and therefore a high amount of aluminum oxide.

Yes there are geo-engineering tools which use aluminum oxide to reflect greenhouse gases, and sure some folks burdened with the cure for climate change think they should be used, but there have been four congressional hearings into them and they haven't been given the go ahead, so no one would dare use them. I mean if the press got a hold of something that you are suggesting is being done behind the backs of the American people there would be a field day. Heads would roll. I mean, seriously?

[Phatscotty]

Beat ya to it.

Now if I had only created the McGill thread yesterday, I would be a true Chocobo Sage

[_sabotage_]

You can go to http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg2 ... ofTqjK9KSM right now and give your opinion: do you think we should provide a legislative mechanism to manage the unregulated geo-engineering so that we can monitor their success?

I think it's a good idea. Did you see how disruptive carbon taxes were in Australia? There is a bill to repeal them as we speak. So if we can't impose cash restrictions we need a cheap alternative and this is it.

I mean, so what if the Rothschilds has a 70% interest in Weather Central the worlds largest provider of weather data? So what if they control the main environmental banks and the one that managed the failed carbon scheme? What does that have to do with us accepting a cheap solution to a well documented problem?

[DoomYoshi]

this is the greatest thread of all time.

[Metsfanmax]

The future of this thread seems dim.

You're going to need to be more specific on the topic of debate if this is not going to turn into a giant mess.

[2dimes]

Don't you people have anything better to do than make threads like this? You better ask sky daddy to protect you because if I come to your house you'll be in big trouble.

[notyou2]

The second coming is imminent and you are all lost unless you repent NOW!!!

Please make note to God that I was the one that converted you to a man of faith so I can get the perk points from God. I believe I will be able to choose some nice perks in heaven from the perks catalog for good recruiters. I have my eye on a purple robe with an ermine collar and a 160 gig ipod.

[muy_thaiguy]

Don't you people have anything better to do than make threads like this? You better ask sky daddy to protect you because if I come to your house you'll be in big trouble.

You're a Canadian, you're supposed to think like someone in Texas.

[notyou2]

The future of this thread seems dim.

You're going to need to be more specific on the topic of debate if this is not going to turn into a giant mess.

Do you have documented proof of this to substantiate your baseless claims?

[notyou2]

Don't you people have anything better to do than make threads like this? You better ask sky daddy to protect you because if I come to your house you'll be in big trouble.

You're a Canadian, you're supposed to think like someone in Texas.

Texans are so polite and Canadians are assholes.

[2dimes]

Shut up muy_thai you little worm. I never liked you.

[notyou2]

this is the greatest thread of all time.

Your opinion does not count because you are below officer status.

[mrswdk]

Chemtrails? Man, step away from the light, sab..

[_sabotage_]

Chemtrails? what have you been smoking. See x > y > z does not mean anything. You are seeing vapor and calling it a fire. Stop reading conspiracy sites.

The Fifth Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and congress state very clearly:
“SRM methods are unimplemented and untested.”

SRM: solar radiation management.

Do you need me to define un implemented and untested?

And besides, they aren't harmful. According to the same report:

“New and improved observational aerosol datasets have emerged since AR4. A number of field experiments have taken place.”

Another “experiment,” the European Aerosol Cloud Climate and Air Quality Interactions project, started in January 2007 and ended in December 2010 – running for a full four years, and included Africa.

In addition to the joint regional projects, several nations also perform similar field trials within their own borders. India admits to running SRM programs for over ten years.

So you see it is safe. They aren't implementing it or testing it, they are just experimenting with it, don't you understand? Can you read plain English?

I mean aren't you worried about global warming? I mean, maybe a few years ago when all the evidence indicated that co2 followed temperature by at least a thousand years but this has been contested by the University of Copenhagen to show that it's under a thousand years. Don't you get it?

We have all the data from Weather Central to prove it and the scientists followed the exact methods they were taught to use this data to show a correlation which enabled them to keep their job. You aren't a climate skeptic are you?

So what do you suggest, a failed carbon tax scheme after the failure in Australia and the failure of Obamacare? Geoengineering offers a cheap effective way for countries to maintain our climate. It will only cost nations about $10 billion a year, depending on their size, this is cheap, don't you understand how prices influence the market? I mean the same report tells us:

“If SRM were terminated for any reason, there is high confidence that global surface temperatures would rise very rapidly to values consistent with the greenhouse gas forcing.” [emphasis in original]

How dare you try to terminate SRMs, which don't exist? When they are proposed as the best method, you better be on board, because dangerous deniers like you should be locked away. I mean you are trying to put us all at risk.

[mrswdk]

How much tinned food do you have in your house?

[_sabotage_]

None, I have a greenhouse, a solar preserver to dry food and am learning about pickling.

Come on guys stop being silly.

The Rothschilds have been so benevolent to the Jewish people, they gave the Palestinians a home, helped us with our financial institutions, helped set up the UN. How can anything bad be said about them.

They have been on the forefront of climate change and helped point us in the right direction, letting us know that climate change was happening because of co2, building banks to deal with it, and providing us with the data to substantiate it. Would they intentionally implement a carbon credit system in Australia just to see it fail so that they could implement geoengineering which doesn't exist?

Come on, guys, come on.

[crispybits]

I wish you'd stop taking things like tinned food on faith mrswdk. I just went to my kitchen and there was no tinned food at all. It's a nonsense concocted by scientists who want us to believe in evilutin because God's grace is perfectly revealed in our fresh and frozen food supplies. I mean it's ridiculous, I haven't seen a single scrap of evidence that tinned food exists in the wild. Lions just eat other animals, they don't put them into little metal tins first, and this proves that tins are not real.

[_sabotage_]

Come on, Crispy, come on.

Pastuerizing only kills most of the nutrients, but it makes us completely safe.

We have a social contract, don't you know about the social contract?

The government is there to help us from the evils of fresh food, like raw milk. Didn't you hear about all the people the government is protecting from the dangers of raw milk? If those people think just because raw milk was consumed for thousands of years it is safe, then why shouldn't we send armed peace officers to highlight the dangers?

Come on, Crispy, come on. Just because our hygiene products have a direct correlation with cancer and have been banned in Europe does not make them bad. They are cheap, cheap is good remember? Just because autism has a correlation with vaccines doesn't mean anything, vaccines save people. And don't start the argument that agarikon has been shown more effective and has less side effects than vaccines, doesn't mean we should use it. Just because geoengineering has a correlation between an increase in Alzheimer's and the destruction of our environment doesn't mean anything: global warming!

Social contract, Crispy, social contract. Sure the cancer might kill you or your loved one, sure vaccines might give your kid autism, sure Alzheimer's might suck, but think of the profit. I mean, if we create a society which provides the tools of independence to everyone; people will be lazy. Lazy people get fat and obesity is a major problem. We have a social contract, we need to prevent obesity at all costs.

[mrswdk]

This thread is fun.

[Agent 86]

On another note, thank god for the Japanese..amen. Where would we be without them killing all those whales and dolphins for scientific research. We know so much more now, I say lift the quota so we can learn even more

[2dimes]

Is this still going? How can you continue to argue about the age of the earth?

It's pretty obvious, so it should just be calibrated as a known fact. Yet there's got to be hundreds of pages every time it comes up. My source is correct and no one has ever been confused by it, nor have they used it to support their own flawed opinions.

http://www.knownfact.org/origin&ageofearth

[_sabotage_]

Isn't fractional reserve banking with fiat currency controlled by private bankers such a good financial system?

I think it's cool that the Fed can issue currency unrestricted, without audit to their own banks so that we can compete with our earned money against an artificial number created by typing it into a computer. Competition is good.

I'm so glad that my money can be devalued at the push of a button while they can use theirs to direct agendas on a global scale by taking our tax dollars in exchange for the privilege.

If we didn't have a checks and balances mechanism in place, I would be a bit concerned, but I trust my politicians. Have you seen Obama's smile? A man of peace, a man of uncompromising beliefs, a man of credibility.

[Army of GOD]

I have a very small penis