Gays Persecuted Far More Than Christians

[Sapient]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/10/iran-arrests-network-homosexual-satanists

Iran has kidnapped 17 people, as well as killing young teenagers who happened to be gay in the past.

http://freethinker.co.uk/2013/05/12/its-not-christians-who-are-a-percuted-minority-its-the-gays-says-tory-peer-lord-fowler/

The effects of the new anti-gay legislation in Russia are coming out as gruesome and draconian, in the extreme:

Russian Vigilante's are stalking Russian teenagers using social media, attacking them, kidnapping them, and torturing them, just because they're gay. They video tape the whole ordeal, in broad daylight, and post it online, on Russian social media.



http://americablog.com/2013/07/russian-vigilantes-kidnapping-beating-young-gays.html (graphic imagery)

This link is of a 15 year old boy getting tortured, attacked, harassed, threatened to be killed, and harmed in multiple ways: http://americablog.com/2013/08/russian-gay-kidnap-boy-torture-video.html (obscene language)

Here's a picture of the 15 year old:







Here's a picture of a teenager who was kidnapped, put in a box, and had urine poured on his head.



In all situations, they post these videos on all their friend's walls and their own, and are basically excommunicated by everyone they know.

The kid above has been reported to have already committed suicide.

Here's another:



In the video from the above picture, sounds of a TASER were heard being used on the victim.

This is horrible and wrong.

The boy’s attackers have been kidnapping gay teens for a while now in Russia, videoing the crime, then posting them online – and have been doing so with impunity up until only a few days ago, when news of this ongoing atrocity hit papers in the West, and the Russians finally realized that the serial kidnapping and torturing of teenage boys might hurt their chances to avoid losing the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi, Russia.

...

Welcome to Vladimir Putin’s Russia.

Oh, and the Russians have announced that if they finally catch the guys who did this, now that the foreign pressure got to be too great, the maximum penalty they’re going for is 3 months’ jail time.

Just for comparison, if you shoot a cat in Russia, you get 5 years.

Yet they'll probably still have the Olympics, no matter what..

[2dimes]

Excellent job of finally exposing the truth.

[_sabotage_]

I didn't know it was still called kidnapping when the government does it.

I wonder how many gay people have been kidnapped and killed by the US government. Did we execute Dahmer?

[greenoaks]

that use to happen in Sydney when i was a teen. it was common for youths to throw them of the cliffs & the police would rule it as a suicide.

[oVo]

A sad human rights situation that should not be condoned or overlooked by any government authority anywhere in the world.

One can only hope that published images of criminal acts will lead to prosecution of the perpetrators of this senseless violence.

[Anarkistsdream]

I didn't know it was still called kidnapping when the government does it.

I wonder how many gay people have been kidnapped and killed by the US government. Did we execute Dahmer?

Dahmer wasn't gay.... Not in the true definition... And, no, he was murdered by fellow inmates.

[2dimes]

I didn't know it was still called kidnapping when the government does it.

I wonder how many gay people have been kidnapped and killed by the US government. Did we execute Dahmer?

Dahmer wasn't gay.... Not in the true definition... And, no, he was murdered by fellow inmates.

A racist guy who most likely had an issue with his crimes as well.

[Phatscotty]

boys will be boys

[Lootifer]

boys will be boys

What? You need to explain that comment a little more as it comes across as incredibly insensitive (to me at least)

[notyou2]

Scotty is a closet Putin lover.

[Sapient]

I didn't know it was still called kidnapping when the government does it.

Fine, if you want to use "arrested" instead, we can do that. But either way, it was done with inhumane intentions.

I wonder how many gay people have been kidnapped and killed by the US government.

It seems you're trying to equate a homosexual being arrested on a criminal charge with a person being arrested for being homosexual. The two are not similar in any regards.

Did we execute Dahmer?

As stated above, Dahmer was not targeted or criminalized because he was homosexual, but because he raped, killed, and ate his victims. Criminality presupposes identity, whether expressed as gender, race, sexuality, or what have you (except in some cases of cognitive and mental inhibitions).

I can saute you a red herring if you wish, and we can point and label a lot of bad people by their identities, but that doesn't stereotype the whole.

boys will be boys

I'm sure you say the same for the high sexual assault of women occurring in our deployed environments by those darn boys. Trololol?

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In the video from the above picture, sounds of a TASER were heard being used on the victim.

Um, no. The article linked clearly states the TASER was used in the below video, against a man who wanted to have sex with a 15 year old, watch the video, you can hear it for yourself.

[thegreekdog]

A sad human rights situation that should not be condoned or overlooked by any government authority anywhere in the world.

One can only hope that published images of criminal acts will lead to prosecution of the perpetrators of this senseless violence.

I agree, but it seems unlikely that will happen.

[Sapient]

In the video from the above picture, sounds of a TASER were heard being used on the victim.

Um, no. The article linked clearly states the TASER was used in the below video, against a man who wanted to have sex with a 15 year old, watch the video, you can hear it for yourself.

Right, sorry about the misread. Anyways, I can't find anything on that video or the man labeled "pedophile #4". I do know the group labels every homosexual as a pedophile.

They claim, in many of the videos, to be catching “pedophiles” by engaging in online chats on gay-oriented Web sites, and then posing as teenage kids looking for sex with someone over 18, or they pose as men looking for sex with someone under 18. They then kidnap the either boy or man when he arrives for the “date.”

They considered the 15 year old boy to be a pedophile and kidnapped him. I also can't find where they said the man in the video was trying to meet up with a 15 year old. The two are separate incidents.

[mrswdk]

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

[Sapient]

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

31 Do to others as you would have them do to you.

12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

See, what I don't understand from people such as yourself is: How can you create threads detailing the seeming genocide of Christians (100,000 annually), then turn around and attempt to justify the torture of others who have a different life than you?

Not to mention, there are multiple other OT verses that are just as applicable as Lev 20:13, such as a women who is found to have lost her virginity before her wedding night shall be put to death, children who curse their parents, adulterous spouses, etc.

Should those be justified as well?

[mrswdk]

Are you equating adultery and disrespecting your parents to being gay?

Are hundreds of thousands of gays being murdered every year? If no then it's not comparable. A couple of Russians is not an epidemic. To quote your contribution to my thread: "you can find outliers anywhere".

[Phatscotty]

show

what % of the world is Christian
what % of the world is gay

maybe we should start there?

[Sapient]

show

what % of the world is Christian
what % of the world is gay

maybe we should start there?

I'm sorry, I don't believe I specified numbers over percentages.

But if you believe the amount is more important than the percentage, then 25% of new HIV transmissions are contracted by heterosexuals. Since 95% of the population is heterosexual, the gross amount is far larger than that of gay transmissions...therefore, HIV is a straight disease, yes?

[mrswdk]

How is that relevant? Is HIV persecuting gay men?

[Phatscotty]

show

what % of the world is Christian
what % of the world is gay

maybe we should start there?

I'm sorry, I don't believe I specified numbers over percentages.

But if you believe the amount is more important than the percentage, then 25% of new HIV transmissions are contracted by heterosexuals. Since 95% of the population is heterosexual, the gross amount is far larger than that of gay transmissions...therefore, HIV is a straight disease, yes?

[Sapient]

How is that relevant? Is HIV persecuting gay men?

I'm just saying if we were looking at gross numbers, rather than percentages, a lot of things look warped.

As it is, gay bullying, gay suicide, is far higher in the United States than is Christians getting bullied or committing suicide.

[chang50]

boys will be boys

What? You need to explain that comment a little more as it comes across as incredibly insensitive (to me at least)

Me too,but I wasn't much surprised by it..

[Phatscotty]

always fighting. It's a mainstream saying in America. My mom and my grandma would say it every time I got into fights.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boys_Will_Be_Boys

Boys Will Be Boys may refer to:

In film and television

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In literature

Boys Will Be Boys, a short story by Ruskin Bond
Boys Will Be Boys, a book about boys' weeklies by E. S. Turner
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Boys Will Be Boys, a 1966 book of pictures of boys

In music

"Boys Will Be Boys" (Paulina Rubio song), 2012
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"Boys Will Be Boys", a collaboration of Tiësto, Angger Dimas and Showtek
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[mrswdk]

inb4 Phatscotty attempts to draw parallels between this and my use of the word 'niggardly' in another thread.

The liberals are out to get you, PS!