But she said she was 21

[thegreekdog]

It takes a special kind of douchebag to distribute naked pictures without permission; and it takes an even specialier kind of douchebag to distribute naked pictures of an underage person without permission.

[AndyDufresne]

inb4

--Andy

[mrswdk]

--Andy

Hot.

[Army of GOD]

1) What about if we have an agreement that you wont share them?

What does it matter? Either we don't have an agreement and I share them and I'm a dick, or I do have an agreement and I share them and I'm a dick. Either way the person who is sharing them is a dick, but that just comes down to a difference in moral values. But you're the person that gave me the gun and bullets, so I place more blame on you than me (not saying either are totally blameless).

2) What if im stupid and dont realise its in my best interest to have an agreement so we dont have one, but we should?

Intelligence should have nothing to do with it. A person who gets drunk and angry and kills someone just out of drunken rage still goes to jail for killing someone. If they were smart, they wouldn't have killed someone and if you were smart, you wouldn't have given me the photos. (inb4 "that's a bad comparison")

3) What if im stupid and dont realise its in my best interest to have an agreement so we dont have one? note: you knew this before the exchange and it was the fundamental reason you asked for pics in the first place.

I'm a dick but it's either mostly your parents' fault or your fault.

4) What if the stupid person in situation 3 is also a 16 year old girl?

I've found the "at 18 you're an adult" thing to be terribly arbitrary and too general. And like, I'm not saying this because I totes want to bang a 15 year old. 15 year olds can be more mature than 30 year olds. So that doesn't really change anything.

It takes a special kind of douchebag to distribute naked pictures without permission; and it takes an even specialier kind of douchebag to distribute naked pictures of an underage person without permission.

Obviously. I am in the possession of one of my exes' nudes and there's no way in Hell I'd ever give them to anyone. But:
1. It also takes a special kind of douchebag to kill anyone or fucking commit any crime
and 2. Like I already said, when you give someone nudes, you're giving them a gun and hoping they don't shoot you. Either don't give them the gun or don't give them a reason to shoot you.

[Army of GOD]

Also, let me state that this is all just one giant fucking gray area like everything that has to do with morals/ethics, and, similarly, there's a good chance I can contradict myself mid-sentence because I never like having a defined opinion about anything.

[nietzsche]

If I may, I think what AoG is trying to say is that if you are stuid enough to give someone a naked picture of you, you should bear the consecuences. He's upset with the stupidity of people, but he's a midget and can't really word what's in his head.

[Army of GOD]

If I may, I think what AoG is trying to say is that if you are stuid enough to give someone a naked picture of you, you should bear the consecuences. He's upset with the stupidity of people, but he's a midget and can't really word what's in his head.

Thank you for the "short-person-to-unintelligible-Mexican-English" translation.

[nietzsche]

If I may, I think what AoG is trying to say is that if you are stuid enough to give someone a naked picture of you, you should bear the consecuences. He's upset with the stupidity of people, but he's a midget and can't really word what's in his head.

Thank you for the "short-person-to-unintelligible-Mexican-English" translation.

De nada.

[notyou2]

Also, let me state that this is all just one giant fucking gray area like everything that has to do with morals/ethics, and, similarly, there's a good chance I can contradict myself mid-sentence because I never like having a defined opinion about anything.

If you are that slippery, you are in the wrong profession.

Sorry TGD, but you're a tax lawyer and it's OK to be slippery with taxes.

[Army of GOD]

Also, let me state that this is all just one giant fucking gray area like everything that has to do with morals/ethics, and, similarly, there's a good chance I can contradict myself mid-sentence because I never like having a defined opinion about anything.

If you are that slippery, you are in the wrong profession.

But I'm in the lube-producing profession...

[thegreekdog]

It takes a special kind of douchebag to distribute naked pictures without permission; and it takes an even specialier kind of douchebag to distribute naked pictures of an underage person without permission.

Obviously. I am in the possession of one of my exes' nudes and there's no way in Hell I'd ever give them to anyone. But:
1. It also takes a special kind of douchebag to kill anyone or fucking commit any crime
and 2. Like I already said, when you give someone nudes, you're giving them a gun and hoping they don't shoot you. Either don't give them the gun or don't give them a reason to shoot you.

I agree with you to a certain extent. I agree that no one should send nude pictures to their significant other and that there is some responsibility on their part. But I don't think that person is being an asshole or doucebaggy. I think that person is stupid (and too trusting). But I don't think that person gets what he/she deserves if the ex-boy/girlfriend ends up sending those things around.

Your gun analogy works too, I guess, except that, again, the bigger douchebag is the one doing the shooting, not the one handing over the gun.

Also, let me state that this is all just one giant fucking gray area like everything that has to do with morals/ethics, and, similarly, there's a good chance I can contradict myself mid-sentence because I never like having a defined opinion about anything.

If you are that slippery, you are in the wrong profession.

Sorry TGD, but you're a tax lawyer and it's OK to be slippery with taxes.

Not to derail, but lawyers aren't as slippery as one may think. That's a misnomer perpetuated by society and novelists, TV show and movie writers. Lawyers work within ridiculous ethical boundaries with major punishments for things dealing with the law and things not dealing with the law. It's pretty absurd the ethical hoops one has to jump through.

[AndyDufresne]

Not to derail, but lawyers aren't as slippery as one may think. That's a misnomer perpetuated by society and novelists, TV show and movie writers. Lawyers work within ridiculous ethical boundaries with major punishments for things dealing with the law and things not dealing with the law. It's pretty absurd the ethical hoops one has to jump through.

TGD, all I know about lawyers, are the ones I see on Star Trek. Most have been fair, but misguided.


--Andy

[thegreekdog]

Not to derail, but lawyers aren't as slippery as one may think. That's a misnomer perpetuated by society and novelists, TV show and movie writers. Lawyers work within ridiculous ethical boundaries with major punishments for things dealing with the law and things not dealing with the law. It's pretty absurd the ethical hoops one has to jump through.

TGD, all I know about lawyers, are the ones I see on Star Trek. Most have been fair, but misguided.


--Andy

I thought they killed all the lawyers before the Star Trek timeline. Where's Woodruff for confirmation?

[Symmetry]

Not to derail, but lawyers aren't as slippery as one may think. That's a misnomer perpetuated by society and novelists, TV show and movie writers. Lawyers work within ridiculous ethical boundaries with major punishments for things dealing with the law and things not dealing with the law. It's pretty absurd the ethical hoops one has to jump through.

TGD, all I know about lawyers, are the ones I see on Star Trek. Most have been fair, but misguided.


--Andy

I thought they killed all the lawyers before the Star Trek timeline. Where's Woodruff for confirmation?

In a rebooted timeline?

[thegreekdog]

Not to derail, but lawyers aren't as slippery as one may think. That's a misnomer perpetuated by society and novelists, TV show and movie writers. Lawyers work within ridiculous ethical boundaries with major punishments for things dealing with the law and things not dealing with the law. It's pretty absurd the ethical hoops one has to jump through.

TGD, all I know about lawyers, are the ones I see on Star Trek. Most have been fair, but misguided.


--Andy

I thought they killed all the lawyers before the Star Trek timeline. Where's Woodruff for confirmation?

In a rebooted timeline?

I believe it was mentioned in the first episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation. Not sure about the reboot.

[Symmetry]

Not to derail, but lawyers aren't as slippery as one may think. That's a misnomer perpetuated by society and novelists, TV show and movie writers. Lawyers work within ridiculous ethical boundaries with major punishments for things dealing with the law and things not dealing with the law. It's pretty absurd the ethical hoops one has to jump through.

TGD, all I know about lawyers, are the ones I see on Star Trek. Most have been fair, but misguided.


--Andy

I thought they killed all the lawyers before the Star Trek timeline. Where's Woodruff for confirmation?

In a rebooted timeline?

I believe it was mentioned in the first episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation. Not sure about the reboot.

He was there last time I checked.

[Lootifer]

1) What about if we have an agreement that you wont share them?

What does it matter? Either we don't have an agreement and I share them and I'm a dick, or I do have an agreement and I share them and I'm a dick. Either way the person who is sharing them is a dick, but that just comes down to a difference in moral values. But you're the person that gave me the gun and bullets, so I place more blame on you than me (not saying either are totally blameless).

I should have clarified. I meant an agreement that was legally binding or some such. I.e. You distribute them I sue the f*ck out of you.

[AndyDufresne]

Not to derail, but lawyers aren't as slippery as one may think. That's a misnomer perpetuated by society and novelists, TV show and movie writers. Lawyers work within ridiculous ethical boundaries with major punishments for things dealing with the law and things not dealing with the law. It's pretty absurd the ethical hoops one has to jump through.

TGD, all I know about lawyers, are the ones I see on Star Trek. Most have been fair, but misguided.


--Andy

I thought they killed all the lawyers before the Star Trek timeline. Where's Woodruff for confirmation?

In a rebooted timeline?

I believe it was mentioned in the first episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation. Not sure about the reboot.

From Memory Alpha, the go to knowledge of Star Trek:

On Earth after a nuclear war circa 2079, lawyers were, for a time, abolished by execution. (TNG: "Encounter at Farpoint") However, in the Federation, lawyers existed in the 23rd and 24th centuries.

TGD, will you live to 2079?

Also, I forgot I actually have two sources about lawyers. Star Trek -- AND -- Futurama.



This man is also a lawyer, but I couldn't find a clip on youtube:




--Andy

[betiko]

I think the right comparison i making yourself a tatt with your significant other s name or giving a naked picture. And yes both are stupid.

[Army of GOD]

Star Trek is for nerds.

1) What about if we have an agreement that you wont share them?

What does it matter? Either we don't have an agreement and I share them and I'm a dick, or I do have an agreement and I share them and I'm a dick. Either way the person who is sharing them is a dick, but that just comes down to a difference in moral values. But you're the person that gave me the gun and bullets, so I place more blame on you than me (not saying either are totally blameless).

I should have clarified. I meant an agreement that was legally binding or some such. I.e. You distribute them I sue the f*ck out of you.

If it was legally binding (and completely legal...I don't really know anything about the laws of contracts and such) then you should be able to sue the f*ck out of what is legally allowed by the contract.

[AndyDufresne]

Star Trek is for nerds.

And Sherry Jackson:




--Andy

[notyou2]

Did Kirk get to kiss Sherry? She's hot.