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The Wolf of Wall Street

Postby oVo on Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:09 pm

In spite of it's director, cast and millions spent on hype,
is an obnoxious piece of crap and waste total of time.

It didn't surprise me that people actually walked out.
I probably should have taken the hint and left too.
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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:59 pm

oVo wrote:In spite of it's director, cast and millions spent on hype,
is an obnoxious piece of crap and waste total of time.

It didn't surprise me that people actually walked out.
I probably should have taken the hint and left too.


Leo looks absolutely delish in the stills I've seen, even though when I've seen him in motion lately (i.e. Claptrap Island or whatever) he looks old and fat. What's he like? Can you just gobble him up? Or is it another J. Edgar Hoover?
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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street

Postby oVo on Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:32 pm

Leo's dominant and loud for pretty much the full three hours, which becomes a bore and no oscar for abs here or acting. Matthew McConauhey is the only scene stealer early on and he might have saved this dog, but he's one and done early.

Wallstreet + Goodfellas meets Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas,
but unfortunately this vulgar extravaganza can't lick the boots
of any of those films and they shouldn't even be mentioned in
the same sentence.
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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street

Postby Phatscotty on Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:41 pm

I liked it, but yeah I was expecting it to be better. Nobody walked out that I know of, but Facebook peeps keep talking about walk outs.

It seems like a hit piece on Wall Street to me. But did any of it, except for Black Monday his first day on the job actually take place anywhere near Wall Street? It was Wall Street the way Boiler Room was 'Wall Street'. And I'm surprised McCounaghy was only in the movie for 5 minutes. He shoulda got the part of the chubby Jewish kid that was Leo's partner.

no wonder the President had a special screening for it a few months back, that's probably what they think about all of us. But really Jordan wasn't a broker, he was a Wall Street reject who couldn't hack it in the real world and went on to cheating people out of their money.

If you can handle the first scene where Leo is shrimpboating a 2 hole hooker with coke, you'll be okay. Surprisingly, Scorcese had to cut out most of the hardcore stuff to keep the R rating. And why the gay orgy scene?? Did that have anything to do with anything?? Just another motion picture that throws in dudes banging dudes for no reason. You can tell it's the same person who does Boardwalk Empire... But the blonde chik he marries might be the hottest woman I've ever seen, and yes she gets buck nude and gets pounded a few times, even if it is only for 11 seconds begin to finish.

The best thing about this movie aside from a few laughs (the popeye scene HILARIOUS) was the Kanyeezus cut trailer w/black skinhead
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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street

Postby Lootifer on Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:24 pm

oVo wrote:In spite of it's director, cast and millions spent on hype,
is an obnoxious piece of crap and waste total of time.

It didn't surprise me that people actually walked out.
I probably should have taken the hint and left too.

Well durr.

The guy paid to have it made because he's a vain douchebag not because its a good story.

I wonder how much of Jordans royalties are going to go towards the $111m he still owes to the people he ripped off in the '90's (he evades paying it back even thou he banks 50 mill a year by ensuring his personal profits per year are $0).

Dude makes me sick and anyone who goes sees it knowing how much of a scumbag he is also makes me sick.
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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street

Postby Phatscotty on Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:54 pm

I think from another perspective it could be a great case study about the effects of drugs and drug abuse greed/glutton emptiness lack of values and morality honor virtue, but the film is too heavily culturallomusicalloglorifying of all those things. It's highly secular.

Political scientists found that Hollywood movies can change attitudes more than advertising and news reports
The researchers noted a leftward shift in attitudes after the participants saw a film with a liberal message

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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street

Postby Lootifer on Sun Dec 29, 2013 5:09 pm

He was a fraudster first, and whatever else (I dont know the story nor am I going to bother with it) second.

The film may and try and make it look like he was a douchebag because he was snorting coke off hookers tits and high as a kite. But the reality of the matter was he was a calculated fraudster and any drug shenanagins is likely just for entertainment purposes.

Asserting leftist ideals being responsible here is both ignorant and somewhat insulting. You dont defraud $200m because you're high, you defraud $200m 'cause you're a c**t [in a right wing section of society that incentivises this kind of behavior]. You then go and spend your $200m on coke.
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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Dec 29, 2013 5:41 pm

Lootifer wrote:He was a fraudster first, and whatever else (I dont know the story nor am I going to bother with it) second.

The film may and try and make it look like he was a douchebag because he was snorting coke off hookers tits and high as a kite. But the reality of the matter was he was a calculated fraudster and any drug shenanagins is likely just for entertainment purposes.

Asserting leftist ideals being responsible here is both ignorant and somewhat insulting. You dont defraud $200m because you're high, you defraud $200m 'cause you're a c**t [in a right wing section of society that incentivises this kind of behavior]. You then go and spend your $200m on coke.


so many things wrong with your post.....I'll try

#1 you think Wall Street is a right wing sector??? that's funny

#2 I was talking about Scorsese and Jordan Belforte, not Wall Street.

#3 this movie, as already stated, isn't even really about Wall Street. It's about an empty schmuck who has no values.

#4 you think snorting coke off hookers tits is what makes him look like a dousche??? That's even more funny
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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street

Postby strike wolf on Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:33 pm

The more I think about this movie the less I like it and I wasn't all that impressed from the get go. Anything we were supposed to learn from the story about not being an A**hole was drowned out by the "Look at me this is fun" feel of the movie and the feeling the ending gave you of "If I could do this again, I would. So go **** yourselves America cause you just watched this."

I wonder if Scorsese intentionally made it horrible. I mean I'm not a fan of all of his movies but I don't remember him ever making one this shitty.
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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street

Postby nagerous on Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:54 am

Phatscotty wrote:I liked it, but yeah I was expecting it to be better. Nobody walked out that I know of, but Facebook peeps keep talking about walk outs.

It seems like a hit piece on Wall Street to me. But did any of it, except for Black Monday his first day on the job actually take place anywhere near Wall Street? It was Wall Street the way Boiler Room was 'Wall Street'. And I'm surprised McCounaghy was only in the movie for 5 minutes. He shoulda got the part of the chubby Jewish kid that was Leo's partner.

no wonder the President had a special screening for it a few months back, that's probably what they think about all of us. But really Jordan wasn't a broker, he was a Wall Street reject who couldn't hack it in the real world and went on to cheating people out of their money.

If you can handle the first scene where Leo is shrimpboating a 2 hole hooker with coke, you'll be okay. Surprisingly, Scorcese had to cut out most of the hardcore stuff to keep the R rating. And why the gay orgy scene?? Did that have anything to do with anything?? Just another motion picture that throws in dudes banging dudes for no reason. You can tell it's the same person who does Boardwalk Empire... But the blonde chik he marries might be the hottest woman I've ever seen, and yes she gets buck nude and gets pounded a few times, even if it is only for 11 seconds begin to finish.

The best thing about this movie aside from a few laughs (the popeye scene HILARIOUS) was the Kanyeezus cut trailer w/black skinhead



I remember the blonde chick from neighbours. She used to be so innocent. Despite the negativity above, the film is sitting at 8.8 on IMDB right now though I can see that dropping fast. I do want to see this film and I am a fan of most of Scorcese's work so hopefully I will like it.
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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street

Postby oVo on Tue Dec 31, 2013 11:09 am

nagerous wrote:I remember the blonde chick from neighbours. She used to be so innocent. Despite the negativity above, the film is sitting at 8.8 on IMDB right now though I can see that dropping fast. I do want to see this film and I am a fan of most of Scorcese's work so hopefully I will like it.

8.8 on IMDB is bs, just like ads on TV claiming rave reviews for this film as "Best Movie of the Year." Since you are a motion picture kind of guy you're obligated to experience this film, just to know for yourself.

The best movie I've seen this year is La Grande Bellezza (The Great Beauty),
which easily trumps this loud Scorsese flatulence.
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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street

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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street

Postby oVo on Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:01 pm

Phatscotty wrote:I liked it, but yeah I was expecting it to be better.

I too was expecting better and was also bummed that I bought into the media hype that was "selling" this motion picture as something special. It isn't, though there are a few "moments" sprinkled into the hours of play time.

It also isn't Best Picture or legit Oscar material on any level
beyond how well the film has been promoted, but that isn't
an Academy Award category.

A recent tidbit about the movie.
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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street

Postby Quirk on Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:48 pm

I enjoyed the film.
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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street

Postby nietzsche on Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:18 pm

nagerous wrote:
I remember the blonde chick from neighbours. She used to be so innocent. Despite the negativity above, the film is sitting at 8.8 on IMDB right now though I can see that dropping fast. I do want to see this film and I am a fan of most of Scorcese's work so hopefully I will like it.



IMDB ratings are not what they used to be. Now I don't know if they are taking money to inflate the rating or people is dumb or the studios have people hired to inflate the votes one by one.

Now I check the rating, the metascore and rottentomatoes.com ratings as well to know if it's a good movie. And even after checking all those, many bad movies being made these days have too good ratins.

The Godfather 9 and The Wolf of Wall Street 8.8? Please.


The movie was dissapointing. I enjoyed 2 things in the movie though, the scene in the yacht when DiCaprio is trying to bribe the FBI agent and Jonah Hill's job, that's the best acting I've seen of him.

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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street

Postby strike wolf on Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:57 pm

oVo wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:I liked it, but yeah I was expecting it to be better.

I too was expecting better and was also bummed that I bought into the media hype that was "selling" this motion picture as something special. It isn't, though there are a few "moments" sprinkled into the hours of play time.

It also isn't Best Picture or legit Oscar material on any level
beyond how well the film has been promoted, but that isn't
an Academy Award category.

A recent tidbit about the movie.


Still didn't like it but that column at least lets me understand where Scorsese was coming from better.
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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street

Postby Army of GOD on Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:24 am

nietzsche wrote:
nagerous wrote:
I remember the blonde chick from neighbours. She used to be so innocent. Despite the negativity above, the film is sitting at 8.8 on IMDB right now though I can see that dropping fast. I do want to see this film and I am a fan of most of Scorcese's work so hopefully I will like it.



IMDB ratings are not what they used to be. Now I don't know if they are taking money to inflate the rating or people is dumb or the studios have people hired to inflate the votes one by one.


I never considered this before but it makes sense. If I remember correctly The Dark Knight RISES (the fucking shitty 3rd one) is like top 50.

I haven't seem The Wolf of Wall street but I just saw American Hustle and god damn is that overrated.
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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street

Postby oVo on Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:13 am

strike wolf wrote:Still didn't like it but that column at least lets me understand where Scorsese was coming from better.

You mean cashing in? The column didn't improve my opinion of the film.

AoG... IF you think American Hustle is overrated then
the hype of Wolf of Wall Street should kick yer butt.
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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Jan 19, 2014 12:26 am

Army of GOD wrote:
nietzsche wrote:
nagerous wrote:
I remember the blonde chick from neighbours. She used to be so innocent. Despite the negativity above, the film is sitting at 8.8 on IMDB right now though I can see that dropping fast. I do want to see this film and I am a fan of most of Scorcese's work so hopefully I will like it.



IMDB ratings are not what they used to be. Now I don't know if they are taking money to inflate the rating or people is dumb or the studios have people hired to inflate the votes one by one.


I never considered this before but it makes sense. If I remember correctly The Dark Knight RISES (the fucking shitty 3rd one) is like top 50.


Should be in the top 20. The soundtrack alone is epic money, and probably the greatest trilogy conclusion of all time, better than Return of the Jedi and Matrix Revolutions combined.
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Postby 2dimes on Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:48 am

Trilogy? Batman begins. The dark knight. And??
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Postby Phatscotty on Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:04 pm

2dimes wrote:Trilogy? Batman begins. The dark knight. And??


The Dark Knight Rises (best trailer ever too)



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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street

Postby nagerous on Tue Jan 21, 2014 12:29 pm

Army of GOD wrote:
nietzsche wrote:
nagerous wrote:
I remember the blonde chick from neighbours. She used to be so innocent. Despite the negativity above, the film is sitting at 8.8 on IMDB right now though I can see that dropping fast. I do want to see this film and I am a fan of most of Scorcese's work so hopefully I will like it.



IMDB ratings are not what they used to be. Now I don't know if they are taking money to inflate the rating or people is dumb or the studios have people hired to inflate the votes one by one.


I never considered this before but it makes sense. If I remember correctly The Dark Knight RISES (the fucking shitty 3rd one) is like top 50.

I haven't seem The Wolf of Wall street but I just saw American Hustle and god damn is that overrated.


Pretty sure most the IMDB fans are Nolan, Tarrantino and Scorcese fanboys so their films will always have inflated ratings.


They are kickass directors though.
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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street

Postby Fruitcake on Tue Jan 21, 2014 12:56 pm

If one insists upon watching a film about what was, in truth, an also ran from the investment division of a pretty second rate investment house (one of the first casualties after Black Monday) and who then proceeds to fleece the usual suspects of whatever he can due to their stupidity and greed (a dangerous mix for stupid people who actually believe they have any kind of talent in investment). Then one only has oneself to blame for the coarse emotions that occur.

Jordan Belfort was/is a wanker of the first degree. he was a self publicist who reckoned he had found a short cut, just like so many of his ilk. They all come to a sticky end and so do the idiot investors who believe the rubbish and tripe they, and their acolytes, spout.

This is a classic tale of nature in the raw.

However, it should be pointed out that Jackals like Jordan Belfort provide a worthy service in their own way. They ensure the stupid morons who get involved with them are taken to the cleaners thereby ensuring the real business of making the world go round (in financial terms) is left to those who know what they are doing, both the advisor and the investors.
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