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Re: Coming Messiah

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:10 pm

Gweeedo wrote:Funny thing about that is, it was all written (''what Jesus said")thousands of years before, he said what he said to them that say he said what he said to say to us (the living dead).


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Re: Coming Messiah

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:19 pm

universalchiro wrote:@ those that say Im in error: Its logical with the lower the rank, the more mental errors in Conquer Club games. Hence there is an increase probability that you're in error again with your mental deductions regarding this thread. I find it curious with so low of discerning skill in CC, yet absolute certain you're right and I'm wrong. You should rethink your strategy before jumping to the conclusion you are always right when more often than not,you prove yourself wrong in CC.


This is a pretty interesting point; I wonder how CC scores can be used to define aptitude or used as a measure of intelligence? Many seemingly bright posters - like BBS and nietzsche - have high ranks. On the other hand, IIRC, TGD went to an Ivy League school but has a shit rank. Symmetry also seems fairly intelligent but has a crap rank. Would MENSA accept CC rank as a qualifying test score for membership?

DoomYoshi - please investigate these questions and produce a one-page set of recommendations as to next steps. Thanking you!
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Re: Coming Messiah

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Re: Coming Messiah

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:03 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
universalchiro wrote:@ those that say Im in error: Its logical with the lower the rank, the more mental errors in Conquer Club games. Hence there is an increase probability that you're in error again with your mental deductions regarding this thread. I find it curious with so low of discerning skill in CC, yet absolute certain you're right and I'm wrong. You should rethink your strategy before jumping to the conclusion you are always right when more often than not,you prove yourself wrong in CC.


This is a pretty interesting point; I wonder how CC scores can be used to define aptitude or used as a measure of intelligence? Many seemingly bright posters - like BBS and nietzsche - have high ranks. On the other hand, IIRC, TGD went to an Ivy League school but has a shit rank. Symmetry also seems fairly intelligent but has a crap rank. Would MENSA accept CC rank as a qualifying test score for membership?

DoomYoshi - please investigate these questions and produce a one-page set of recommendations as to next steps. Thanking you!


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Re: Coming Messiah

Postby nietzsche on Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:16 pm

universalchiro wrote:@ those that say Im in error: Its logical with the lower the rank, the more mental errors in Conquer Club games. Hence there is an increase probability that you're in error again with your mental deductions regarding this thread. I find it curious with so low of discerning skill in CC, yet absolute certain you're right and I'm wrong. You should rethink your strategy before jumping to the conclusion you are always right when more often than not,you prove yourself wrong in CC.


Let me introduce myself. Or, better stated, let me introduce Friedrich Nietzsche. He would remind you that, and I get a little migraine to have to say this again in this forum, that you first have a conclusion, a will let's say, and then you work out the logical arguments to prove it. It's the way our mind works. You didn't arrive to your goal (in this case prove that the Missiah is coming) by logic, you wanted to arrive there, therefore you constructed the argument.

So, in this case, the rank has nothing to do with mental errors, the way you are stating it. The use of logic is not unlike any other activity, you can train to be the best logician. You are biased, we all are.
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Re: Coming Messiah

Postby EBConquer on Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:25 pm

Univ? Why do continue to stir the pot, you incessant and insensitive D-Bag!?! Pretty well played btw. :lol:

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Messiah Spoils> use this spoils to advance across impassible barriers on CC maps(rivers mostly).
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Funny stuff, Qwert! Rivers only though. lol
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Re: Coming Messiah

Postby DoomYoshi on Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:28 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
universalchiro wrote:@ those that say Im in error: Its logical with the lower the rank, the more mental errors in Conquer Club games. Hence there is an increase probability that you're in error again with your mental deductions regarding this thread. I find it curious with so low of discerning skill in CC, yet absolute certain you're right and I'm wrong. You should rethink your strategy before jumping to the conclusion you are always right when more often than not,you prove yourself wrong in CC.


This is a pretty interesting point; I wonder how CC scores can be used to define aptitude or used as a measure of intelligence? Many seemingly bright posters - like BBS and nietzsche - have high ranks. On the other hand, IIRC, TGD went to an Ivy League school but has a shit rank. Symmetry also seems fairly intelligent but has a crap rank. Would MENSA accept CC rank as a qualifying test score for membership?

DoomYoshi - please investigate these questions and produce a one-page set of recommendations as to next steps. Thanking you!


It's a ludicrous assertion. To say that success in CC equates intelligence is partially true, but there are issues. For one, I am a stats guy; I have written an open book stats exam with no notes, no studying, no sleep and no calculator and still got 100%. In third year, my one professor was so impressed with my work, she offered to take me in and allow me to skip a master's to do a doctorate with her. I could think statistically about my moves in CC, but I would rather just click randomly. If my goals in life included high rank in CC, and I failed, that would mean that I am probably not very smart. However, my goals in life are networth > $10 million CAD, being chairman of Red Cross International and fathering obscene amounts of children.
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Re: Coming Messiah

Postby Dukasaur on Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:25 am

universalchiro wrote:@ those that say Im in error: Its logical with the lower the rank, the more mental errors in Conquer Club games. Hence there is an increase probability that you're in error again with your mental deductions regarding this thread. I find it curious with so low of discerning skill in CC, yet absolute certain you're right and I'm wrong. You should rethink your strategy before jumping to the conclusion you are always right when more often than not,you prove yourself wrong in CC.

It's easy enough to maintain high rank if 90% of your games are on the same two maps, and you always hide behind team games.

Grow some balls, come play 7-player Terminator on Random map like a real man, and we'll see how long your rank lasts.
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Re: Coming Messiah

Postby chang50 on Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:31 am

DoomYoshi wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
universalchiro wrote:@ those that say Im in error: Its logical with the lower the rank, the more mental errors in Conquer Club games. Hence there is an increase probability that you're in error again with your mental deductions regarding this thread. I find it curious with so low of discerning skill in CC, yet absolute certain you're right and I'm wrong. You should rethink your strategy before jumping to the conclusion you are always right when more often than not,you prove yourself wrong in CC.


This is a pretty interesting point; I wonder how CC scores can be used to define aptitude or used as a measure of intelligence? Many seemingly bright posters - like BBS and nietzsche - have high ranks. On the other hand, IIRC, TGD went to an Ivy League school but has a shit rank. Symmetry also seems fairly intelligent but has a crap rank. Would MENSA accept CC rank as a qualifying test score for membership?

DoomYoshi - please investigate these questions and produce a one-page set of recommendations as to next steps. Thanking you!


It's a ludicrous assertion. To say that success in CC equates intelligence is partially true, but there are issues. For one, I am a stats guy; I have written an open book stats exam with no notes, no studying, no sleep and no calculator and still got 100%. In third year, my one professor was so impressed with my work, she offered to take me in and allow me to skip a master's to do a doctorate with her. I could think statistically about my moves in CC, but I would rather just click randomly. If my goals in life included high rank in CC, and I failed, that would mean that I am probably not very smart. However, my goals in life are networth > $10 million CAD, being chairman of Red Cross International and fathering obscene amounts of children.



Ludicrous is being kind..UC has the type of focussed tunnel vision that is perfect for success at cc.,obviously not everyone shares this or even remotely cares about the game.Close to being the daftest thing he has said among a very strong field.
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Re: Coming Messiah

Postby betiko on Thu Mar 20, 2014 4:00 am

I still haven t seen any magician that wasn t using deceptive tricks. It s nice to see that at your age you still hope, like a little teenage bieber fan.

By the way, one wins arguments with amounts of medals, not with score, duh!!
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Re: Coming Messiah

Postby macbone on Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:16 am

400 years? Not exactly. Estimates say that the gospel of Mark was written sometime around 55 - 70 CE, although of course all of this is in dispute, as is who actually wrote the gospels. It's believed that John was the last gospel to be written, somewhere between 80-95 CE. There's actually a papyrus fragment of John that dates back to between 117 and 138 CE.
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Re: Coming Messiah

Postby thegreekdog on Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:58 am

EBConquer wrote:Univ? Why do continue to stir the pot, you incessant and insensitive D-Bag!?! Pretty well played btw. :lol:


No, this is a serious thread. Only serious threads belong in OT.
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Re: Coming Messiah

Postby KoolBak on Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:00 am

universalchiro wrote:@ those that say Im in error: Its logical with the lower the rank, the more mental errors in Conquer Club games. Hence there is an increase probability that you're in error again with your mental deductions regarding this thread. I find it curious with so low of discerning skill in CC, yet absolute certain you're right and I'm wrong. You should rethink your strategy before jumping to the conclusion you are always right when more often than not,you prove yourself wrong in CC.


You are SUCH a typical hypocrite. Supposedly christian yet taking nasty shots at people and engaging in vanity / pride.....according to the private catholic college I attended, those are SINS. And quackopractors aren't doctors :lol: as to your miraculous win percentage of 70, you've only ever played teams or 1 vs 1 so your statistical start point is 50%. As the majority of your team games are farming, frankly I am disappointed that your rate isn't higher. Perhaps that dwarf in your avatar is draining your abilities to function.....

My starting average should be 22% and I am above that considerably and I only play real people....thus, I am smarter than you.....and not being religious, I can be a prideful as I wish and still be a good person.....nya nya nya nya nya. *adds Mr. Poopypants to the LIST*
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Re: Coming Messiah

Postby notyou2 on Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:18 am

KoolBak wrote:
universalchiro wrote:@ those that say Im in error: Its logical with the lower the rank, the more mental errors in Conquer Club games. Hence there is an increase probability that you're in error again with your mental deductions regarding this thread. I find it curious with so low of discerning skill in CC, yet absolute certain you're right and I'm wrong. You should rethink your strategy before jumping to the conclusion you are always right when more often than not,you prove yourself wrong in CC.


You are SUCH a typical hypocrite. Supposedly christian yet taking nasty shots at people and engaging in vanity / pride.....according to the private catholic college I attended, those are SINS. And quackopractors aren't doctors :lol: as to your miraculous win percentage of 70, you've only ever played teams or 1 vs 1 so your statistical start point is 50%. As the majority of your team games are farming, frankly I am disappointed that your rate isn't higher. Perhaps that dwarf in your avatar is draining your abilities to function.....

My starting average should be 22% and I am above that considerably and I only play real people....thus, I am smarter than you.....and not being religious, I can be a prideful as I wish and still be a good person.....nya nya nya nya nya. *adds Mr. Poopypants to the LIST*


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Re: Coming Messiah

Postby betiko on Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:51 am

KoolBak wrote:
universalchiro wrote:@ those that say Im in error: Its logical with the lower the rank, the more mental errors in Conquer Club games. Hence there is an increase probability that you're in error again with your mental deductions regarding this thread. I find it curious with so low of discerning skill in CC, yet absolute certain you're right and I'm wrong. You should rethink your strategy before jumping to the conclusion you are always right when more often than not,you prove yourself wrong in CC.


You are SUCH a typical hypocrite. Supposedly christian yet taking nasty shots at people and engaging in vanity / pride.....according to the private catholic college I attended, those are SINS. And quackopractors aren't doctors :lol: as to your miraculous win percentage of 70, you've only ever played teams or 1 vs 1 so your statistical start point is 50%. As the majority of your team games are farming, frankly I am disappointed that your rate isn't higher. Perhaps that dwarf in your avatar is draining your abilities to function.....

My starting average should be 22% and I am above that considerably and I only play real people....thus, I am smarter than you.....and not being religious, I can be a prideful as I wish and still be a good person.....nya nya nya nya nya. *adds Mr. Poopypants to the LIST*


I think we can safely say that chiro is uncomparatively better than you will ever be playing risk though. Your score is embarrassingly bad for someone with 4000+ games under his belt and he is the conqueror.. So I would stick to criticizing his ridiculous theories rather than going down that road if you are as smart as you pretend, just a friendly advise ;)
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Re: Coming Messiah

Postby degaston on Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:15 am

universalchiro wrote:Every generation has claimed the time is near, what makes this generation different that the coming Messiah is near. There are many signs and fulfilled prophecies indicating we are near, here is a brief list of some signs:

...yada, yada... The list keeps going.

Bible says, "no one knows the day or hour... when the fig tree sprouts leaves you know the harvest is near". The signs have started, the time is near. Get ready. The creator of the Universe, Jesus, is coming soon!

So the Bible says that no one knows... but you do. Therefore, either the Bible is wrong, or you are. But if the Bible is wrong, then there is no God, therefore you are wrong either way. Q.E.D.
(...or you are God, but I think I'd need a little more proof than a high CC score.)
Don't feel bad, though - you're not the first to make this mistake, and you won't be the last. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_da ... tic_events
But I do like to see some conviction in an end-times prediction. Have you started giving away all your worldly possessions yet?
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Re: Coming Messiah

Postby betiko on Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:57 am

degaston wrote:
universalchiro wrote:Every generation has claimed the time is near, what makes this generation different that the coming Messiah is near. There are many signs and fulfilled prophecies indicating we are near, here is a brief list of some signs:

...yada, yada... The list keeps going.

Bible says, "no one knows the day or hour... when the fig tree sprouts leaves you know the harvest is near". The signs have started, the time is near. Get ready. The creator of the Universe, Jesus, is coming soon!

So the Bible says that no one knows... but you do. Therefore, either the Bible is wrong, or you are. But if the Bible is wrong, then there is no God, therefore you are wrong either way. Q.E.D.
(...or you are God, but I think I'd need a little more proof than a high CC score.)
Don't feel bad, though - you're not the first to make this mistake, and you won't be the last. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_da ... tic_events
But I do like to see some conviction in an end-times prediction. Have you started giving away all your worldly possessions yet?


could you explain how this assumption can lead you to this result? Basically you're saying that it's either christian fanatism, either atheism?
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Re: Coming Messiah

Postby degaston on Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:25 am

betiko wrote:could you explain how this assumption can lead you to this result? Basically you're saying that it's either christian fanatism, either atheism?

Yes. :twisted:

(and lighten up, Francis. If he's going to use prophecy and coincidence to conclude that the end-times are near, then I feel justified in countering with Biblical inerrancy.)
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Re: Coming Messiah

Postby universalchiro on Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:06 am

universalchiro wrote:@ those that say Im in error: Its logical with the lower the rank, the more mental errors in Conquer Club games. Hence there is an increase probability that you're in error again with your mental deductions regarding this thread. I find it curious with so low of discerning skill in CC, yet absolute certain you're right and I'm wrong. You should rethink your strategy before jumping to the conclusion you are always right when more often than not,you prove yourself wrong in CC.

The top 250 players are interchangeable, any one of them can beat the other and is worthy of Conqueror. So I don't view myself as mentally superior to any of them. However, it is a patently obvious that the top 250 players have more reasoning skills, more deductive and discerning skills than the bottom 250 players on average. With a sliding scale in between. The top 250 players on the leader board will on average out wit the bottom 250 players in the real world when it comes to discerning, reasoning and deductive abilities. This is unassailable and should be an axiom.
Application to this thread: With such a low rank, don't be so quick to say you are always correct and I'm always wrong, especially when it comes to the Bible. For I know more about the Bible than I know about CC and you probably know less about the Bible than you know about CC.

universalchiro wrote:Every generation has claimed the time is near, what makes this generation different that the coming Messiah is near. There are many signs and fulfilled prophecies indicating we are near, here is a brief list of some signs:

1. Israel becoming a nation. Israel hasn't been a nation for 2,500 years until 1948. But Israel didn't have Jerusalem.
2. Israel captures capital city Jerusalem in 1967.
3. Euphrates river will dry up to allow 200 million man army to march from far East. Turkey has built many damns and threatens a water tax to lower countries or they'll stop the flow.
4. China boasted 200+ million man army in late 1980's.
5. People will go to & fro quickly. For 5,900 years the fasted mankind traveled was the speed of one horse, now we cross the Atlantic in hours. This speed of travel exponentially increased in last 100 years.
6. Knowledge will increase. The last 100+/- years knowledge has exponentially increased compared to the previous 5,900 years.
7. One world religion. Pope recently announced that if an atheist or agnostic obey their moral conscience, they'll go to heaven. This has unified all religions under the umbrella of obey moral conscience & heaven awaits you. Bible says Nope, Jesus is the only way to Heaven.
8. Armeggedon will have such destruction that elements will melt, flesh melting, nuclear weapons explains this.
The list keeps going.
Bible says, "no one knows the day or hour... when the fig tree sprouts leaves you know the harvest is near". The signs have started, the time is near. Get ready. The creator of the Universe, Jesus, is coming soon!

9. Falling away from God and Bible. Hate increases towards believers/God/Bible.
10. Reversal of thinking, what is good is thought of as evil and what is wicked is thought of as natural.
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Re: Coming Messiah

Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:14 am

universalchiro wrote:
universalchiro wrote:@ those that say Im in error: Its logical with the lower the rank, the more mental errors in Conquer Club games. Hence there is an increase probability that you're in error again with your mental deductions regarding this thread. I find it curious with so low of discerning skill in CC, yet absolute certain you're right and I'm wrong. You should rethink your strategy before jumping to the conclusion you are always right when more often than not,you prove yourself wrong in CC.

The top 250 players are interchangeable, any one of them can beat the other and is worthy of Conqueror. So I don't view myself as mentally superior to any of them. However, it is a patently obvious that the top 250 players have more reasoning skills, more deductive and discerning skills than the bottom 250 players on average. With a sliding scale in between. The top 250 players on the leader board will on average out wit the bottom 250 players in the real world when it comes to discerning, reasoning and deductive abilities. This is unassailable and is should be an axiom.
Application to this thread: With such a low rank, don't be so quick to say you are always correct and I'm always wrong, especially when it comes to the Bible. For I know more about the Bible than I know about CC and you probably know less about the Bible than you know about CC.


I like that this is really your serious argument and that you are sticking to it.

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Re: Cuming Messiah

Postby The Voice on Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:16 am

universalchiro wrote:The top 250 players are interchangeable, any one of them can beat the other and is worthy of Conqueror. So I don't view myself as mentally superior to any of them. However, it is a patently obvious that the top 250 players have more reasoning skills, more deductive and discerning skills than the bottom 250 players on average. With a sliding scale in between. The top 250 players on the leader board will on average out wit the bottom 250 players in the real world when it comes to discerning, reasoning and deductive abilities. This is unassailable and should be an axiom.



This can be found verbatim in Proverbs 3:12
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Re: Coming Messiah

Postby betiko on Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:03 pm

universalchiro wrote:Every generation has claimed the time is near, what makes this generation different that the coming Messiah is near. There are many signs and fulfilled prophecies indicating we are near, here is a brief list of some signs:

1. Israel becoming a nation. Israel hasn't been a nation for 2,500 years until 1948. But Israel didn't have Jerusalem.
2. Israel captures capital city Jerusalem in 1967.
3. Euphrates river will dry up to allow 200 million man army to march from far East. Turkey has built many damns and threatens a water tax to lower countries or they'll stop the flow.
4. China boasted 200+ million man army in late 1980's.
5. People will go to & fro quickly. For 5,900 years the fasted mankind traveled was the speed of one horse, now we cross the Atlantic in hours. This speed of travel exponentially increased in last 100 years.
6. Knowledge will increase. The last 100+/- years knowledge has exponentially increased compared to the previous 5,900 years.
7. One world religion. Pope recently announced that if an atheist or agnostic obey their moral conscience, they'll go to heaven. This has unified all religions under the umbrella of obey moral conscience & heaven awaits you. Bible says Nope, Jesus is the only way to Heaven.
8. Armeggedon will have such destruction that elements will melt, flesh melting, nuclear weapons explains this.
The list keeps going.
Bible says, "no one knows the day or hour... when the fig tree sprouts leaves you know the harvest is near". The signs have started, the time is near. Get ready. The creator of the Universe, Jesus, is coming soon!
9. Falling away from God and Bible. Hate increases towards believers/God/Bible.
10. Reversal of thinking, what is good is thought of as evil and what is wicked is thought of as natural.


If you were born muslim for example; don't you think you would believe you hold the truth as well? what makes you think that your beliefs are superior to other people's beliefs?
what makes you think your idea of good and evil is the truth, and anyone thinking differently is wrong?
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Re: Coming Messiah

Postby BigBallinStalin on Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:24 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:
universalchiro wrote:
universalchiro wrote:@ those that say Im in error: Its logical with the lower the rank, the more mental errors in Conquer Club games. Hence there is an increase probability that you're in error again with your mental deductions regarding this thread. I find it curious with so low of discerning skill in CC, yet absolute certain you're right and I'm wrong. You should rethink your strategy before jumping to the conclusion you are always right when more often than not,you prove yourself wrong in CC.

The top 250 players are interchangeable, any one of them can beat the other and is worthy of Conqueror. So I don't view myself as mentally superior to any of them. However, it is a patently obvious that the top 250 players have more reasoning skills, more deductive and discerning skills than the bottom 250 players on average. With a sliding scale in between. The top 250 players on the leader board will on average out wit the bottom 250 players in the real world when it comes to discerning, reasoning and deductive abilities. This is unassailable and is should be an axiom.
Application to this thread: With such a low rank, don't be so quick to say you are always correct and I'm always wrong, especially when it comes to the Bible. For I know more about the Bible than I know about CC and you probably know less about the Bible than you know about CC.


I like that this is really your serious argument and that you are sticking to it.

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I like how he's being true to himself by not addressing any criticism about it. Same old UC. He's then going to moan about people driving this further off-topic. Again, if he acts like this, he won't be respected. He disagrees with this fact because he's an uber-intelligent top 250 CC player.

Maybe he'll start arguing with himself.
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Re: Coming Messiah

Postby thegreekdog on Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:34 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:because he's an uber-intelligent top 250 CC player.


He's number one. Moron.
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Re: Coming Messiah

Postby nietzsche on Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:10 pm

There's something wrong with this thread, universalchiro cannot have expected to start it and not being trolled.

Tunnel vision, biased or whatever, he knew what it was coming.

I think we've been baited.

Even when Scotty makes threads like this, he's actually laughing.
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