Coming Messiah

[KoolBak]

Pix of caves please.

[DoomYoshi]

Stop derailing the thread guys. This thread is about how Emmdizzle is the messiah.

[degaston]

If there really was a tree, then you wouldn't need to interpret unrelated natural, political, social, and economic events to try to figure out when the fruit was coming.
A man of secular, rather carnal, leanings can see no tree.

Oh wait, I see it now! Aren't those the Emperor's new clothes hanging from one branch? My, aren't they lovely!
And what do you have to say to all those devout followers who saw the tree clearly, and could see the leaves budding, and knew that the fruit was coming soon, and then... nothing?

hasn't had any fruit for 2000 years
I beg to differ. Try tasting the fruit; It is taste that gets people's nerves tingling.

I thought this metaphorical fruit was Jesus' return? I'm sure that would have been covered by Fox News. And you may see an actual, honest-to-goodness fruit tree, and imagine how good that fruit is going to taste, but until that fruit comes, it's only your imagination that's tingling.

What are you going to question in 2022 when he still hasn't shown up
Might question how much more of this the world can endure before the second coming...as in the days of Sodam and Gomorrah.

People have been asking that question for a loooong time. But might it be better to question the practice of trying to predict when Jesus was coming back through the status of treaties, disease outbreaks, moon phases, and building code violations?

It matters not when Jesus is coming to those already in the body of Christ (he has already come).
He is here now!
If you happen to see Jesus headed down on a white cloud, It should come as no surprise (those in Christ).
If you are not in the body of Christ Jesus (surprised), you should head for the hills...I have some Caves for sale!

If Jesus is already here, then why the big announcement that he is coming soon?

[jonesthecurl]

Well, it's like an "Official Opening". The thing has actually been open for some time, then some twat comes along with some scissors and cuts a rbbon. Now it's "Officialy" open.

[degaston]

Well, it's like an "Official Opening". The thing has actually been open for some time, then some twat comes along with some scissors and cuts a rbbon. Now it's "Officialy" open.

I've never seen a twat that had the dexterity to operate scissors. But can it bench 250?

[degaston]

...It matters not when Jesus is coming to those already in the body of Christ (he has already come).

Hey universalchiro, I think Gweeedo just accused you of not being in the body of Christ! Are you going to let him talk to you that way?

[crispybits]

Oh and my rank is crap, but I did join MENSA. I let the membership lapse several decades ago due to being too busy to do stuff.
That's where I met Asimov, (the toilet-head) who was I believe international chairman or something at the time.

I'm not having a go because I also once joined MENSA for a while, until something a friend said rang true with my cynical side and I almost immediately cancelled my membership:

"So, you're paying an annual sub to this organisation to basically certify that you're smart. Is that the actual behaviour of a smart person?"

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Oh and my rank is crap, but I did join MENSA. I let the membership lapse several decades ago due to being too busy to do stuff.
That's where I met Asimov, (the toilet-head) who was I believe international chairman or something at the time.

I'm not having a go because I also once joined MENSA for a while, until something a friend said rang true with my cynical side and I almost immediately cancelled my membership:

"So, you're paying an annual sub to this organisation to basically certify that you're smart. Is that the actual behaviour of a smart person?"

It's pretty smart on the part of the organization.

-TG

[Dukasaur]

Oh and my rank is crap, but I did join MENSA. I let the membership lapse several decades ago due to being too busy to do stuff.
That's where I met Asimov, (the toilet-head) who was I believe international chairman or something at the time.

I'm not having a go because I also once joined MENSA for a while, until something a friend said rang true with my cynical side and I almost immediately cancelled my membership:

"So, you're paying an annual sub to this organisation to basically certify that you're smart. Is that the actual behaviour of a smart person?"

I joined Mensa, and I too didn't renew after the first year.

I would have, however, if the membership dues had been cheaper. They were quite expensive.

I suppose that if you're just using it to "certify that you're smart" then it's valid to be cynical, but like anything else, you get out of it what you put into it. If you avail yourself of all the opportunities the organization offers, go to all the social events, meet the other members, you can end up hooking up with a mind-expanding set of people and perhaps end up with some really intriguing opportunities.

[notyou2]

Oh and my rank is crap, but I did join MENSA. I let the membership lapse several decades ago due to being too busy to do stuff.
That's where I met Asimov, (the toilet-head) who was I believe international chairman or something at the time.

I'm not having a go because I also once joined MENSA for a while, until something a friend said rang true with my cynical side and I almost immediately cancelled my membership:

"So, you're paying an annual sub to this organisation to basically certify that you're smart. Is that the actual behaviour of a smart person?"

LOL

[betiko]

I d like to open something to compete against mensa.
The tests will give you much higher IQ results to look much more selective and the fees will be much higher to look much more selective. Winner winner chicken dinner.

[AndyDufresne]

I've never been in Mensa. But I've been through Mesa, AZ. I figure its about the same diff.


--Andy

[notyou2]

I d like to open something to compete against mensa.
The tests will give you much higher IQ results to look much more selective and the fees will be much higher to look much more selective. Winner winner chicken dinner.

Menstra, where all the bitches hang out.

[universalchiro]

Every generation has claimed the time is near, what makes this generation different that the coming Messiah is near. There are many signs and fulfilled prophecies indicating we are near, here is a brief list of some signs:

1. Israel becoming a nation. Israel hasn't been a nation for 2,500 years until 1948. But Israel didn't have Jerusalem.
2. Israel captures capital city Jerusalem in 1967.
3. Euphrates river will dry up to allow 200 million man army to march from far East. Turkey has built many damns and threatens a water tax to lower countries or they'll stop the flow.
4. China boasted 200+ million man army in late 1980's.
5. People will go to & fro quickly. For 5,900 years the fasted mankind traveled was the speed of one horse, now we cross the Atlantic in hours. This speed of travel exponentially increased in last 100 years.
6. Knowledge will increase. The last 100+/- years knowledge has exponentially increased compared to the previous 5,900 years.
7. One world religion. Pope recently announced that if an atheist or agnostic obey their moral conscience, they'll go to heaven. This has unified all religions under the umbrella of obey moral conscience & heaven awaits you. Bible says Nope, Jesus is the only way to Heaven.
8. Armeggedon will have such destruction that elements will melt, flesh melting, nuclear weapons explains this.
The list keeps going.
Bible says, "no one knows the day or hour... when the fig tree sprouts leaves you know the harvest is near". The signs have started, the time is near. Get ready. The creator of the Universe, Jesus, is coming soon!
9. Falling away from God and Bible. Hate increases towards believers/God/Bible.
10. Reversal of thinking, what is good is thought of as evil and what is wicked is thought of as natural.

@PhattScotty: No the coming Messiah would not likely hold a press conference. What leads me to think this? When He appeared 2,000 years ago he didn't go through the establishment to announce His presence. He used a subservient person that didn't have wealth, nor fame and the means of announcing the King of the Jews was here, the final High Priest, the Savior, God in the flesh was here, was John the Baptist went out to the wilderness. Totally unconventional if you ask me. Jesus also started in the wilderness and then moved through from City to City. But this time the Bible says the second Coming of Jesus, He will descend from Heaven to Israel, judging with a wrath of fire and then setting up reign in Jerusalem.
So by this point armeggedon is over, so if one was to look for signs of Jesus' Coming, better to look for fulfilled prophecies that indicate His return is near, at the very door.
@notyou2: Blood moons: sure there are many blood moons when the speed of light is slowed from the length of atmosphere or debris in the atmosphere, but these blood moons that occurred on 1492, 1948 and 1967-68 were special, they either had solar eclipses with the shadow on Israel or lunar eclipses, And the blood moon signifying the nearness of the coming Messiah will also be special to authenticate a unique fulfillment.
@degaston: I like the Matrix reference BTW I agree with you that it seems every generation has claimed the Messiah is near. That's why in my opening post I listed some fulfilled prophecies that prior generations couldn't claim. Yet still I admit, Christ could arrive from 7 years from now to many decades from now, but I'm convinced He is Near. But you'll never read me proclaim a date. And yes the fig tree is figurative language for Israel. <> regarding Jesus is already here: He dwells within all believers, but His physical return to judge and reign from Jerusalem is near. Gweeedo didn't accuse me of not being a believer, nice try. It's simply that every knee will bow before Jesus, some in adoration (believers), most in humiliation (non-believers). So believers are commanded to proclaim the good news of Jesus and teach of the signs of His coming.

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Another sign of the Coming Messiah is near, scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. They will say, "where is this 'coming' he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation." The Lord is not slow in keeping His promise, instead He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish in the coming judgment, but everyone to come to repentance. This day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar, the elements will be destroyed by fire and destruction comes. Since everything will be destroyed, we should respond to God's message of repent the kingdom of Heaven is near without delay.

[AndyDufresne]

I closed my eyes and the moon was gone last night. This is a sign.


--Andy

[betiko]

So why do you not recognize Mahomet as a more up to date messiah after jesus?
And why are you calling the next messiah jesus/christ?

[notyou2]

Every generation has claimed the time is near, what makes this generation different that the coming Messiah is near. There are many signs and fulfilled prophecies indicating we are near, here is a brief list of some signs:

1. Israel becoming a nation. Israel hasn't been a nation for 2,500 years until 1948. But Israel didn't have Jerusalem.
2. Israel captures capital city Jerusalem in 1967.
3. Euphrates river will dry up to allow 200 million man army to march from far East. Turkey has built many damns and threatens a water tax to lower countries or they'll stop the flow.
4. China boasted 200+ million man army in late 1980's.
5. People will go to & fro quickly. For 5,900 years the fasted mankind traveled was the speed of one horse, now we cross the Atlantic in hours. This speed of travel exponentially increased in last 100 years.
6. Knowledge will increase. The last 100+/- years knowledge has exponentially increased compared to the previous 5,900 years.
7. One world religion. Pope recently announced that if an atheist or agnostic obey their moral conscience, they'll go to heaven. This has unified all religions under the umbrella of obey moral conscience & heaven awaits you. Bible says Nope, Jesus is the only way to Heaven.
8. Armeggedon will have such destruction that elements will melt, flesh melting, nuclear weapons explains this.
The list keeps going.
Bible says, "no one knows the day or hour... when the fig tree sprouts leaves you know the harvest is near". The signs have started, the time is near. Get ready. The creator of the Universe, Jesus, is coming soon!
9. Falling away from God and Bible. Hate increases towards believers/God/Bible.
10. Reversal of thinking, what is good is thought of as evil and what is wicked is thought of as natural.

@PhattScotty: No the coming Messiah would not likely hold a press conference. What leads me to think this? When He appeared 2,000 years ago he didn't go through the establishment to announce His presence. He used a subservient person that didn't have wealth, nor fame and the means of announcing the King of the Jews was here, the final High Priest, the Savior, God in the flesh was here, was John the Baptist went out to the wilderness. Totally unconventional if you ask me. Jesus also started in the wilderness and then moved through from City to City. But this time the Bible says the second Coming of Jesus, He will descend from Heaven to Israel, judging with a wrath of fire and then setting up reign in Jerusalem.
So by this point armeggedon is over, so if one was to look for signs of Jesus' Coming, better to look for fulfilled prophecies that indicate His return is near, at the very door.
@notyou2: Blood moons: sure there are many blood moons when the speed of light is slowed from the length of atmosphere or debris in the atmosphere, but these blood moons that occurred on 1492, 1948 and 1967-68 were special, they either had solar eclipses with the shadow on Israel or lunar eclipses, And the blood moon signifying the nearness of the coming Messiah will also be special to authenticate a unique fulfillment.
@degaston: I like the Matrix reference BTW I agree with you that it seems every generation has claimed the Messiah is near. That's why in my opening post I listed some fulfilled prophecies that prior generations couldn't claim. Yet still I admit, Christ could arrive from 7 years from now to many decades from now, but I'm convinced He is Near. But you'll never read me proclaim a date. And yes the fig tree is figurative language for Israel. <> regarding Jesus is already here: He dwells within all believers, but His physical return to judge and reign from Jerusalem is near. Gweeedo didn't accuse me of not being a believer, nice try. It's simply that every knee will bow before Jesus, some in adoration (believers), most in humiliation (non-believers). So believers are commanded to proclaim the good news of Jesus and teach of the signs of His coming.

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Another sign of the Coming Messiah is near, scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. They will say, "where is this 'coming' he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation." The Lord is not slow in keeping His promise, instead He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish in the coming judgment, but everyone to come to repentance. This day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar, the elements will be destroyed by fire and destruction comes. Since everything will be destroyed, we should respond to God's message of repent the kingdom of Heaven is near without delay.

Hal Lindsey coined the term blood moon in one of his books. Traditionally it meant the first full moon after harvest.

Therefore, Hal Lindsey must be on of the disciples. I assume he is self appointed.

[BoganGod]

False advertising from the single issue drum beater. Came for a money shot of the messiah, betiko seems to think could feed 5000. True christians would not be on the internet. A rather pointless circular beat up over 10pages.

No the coming Messiah would not likely hold a press conference. What leads me to think this? When He appeared 2,000 years ago he didn't go through the establishment to announce His presence. He used a subservient person that didn't have wealth, nor fame and the means of announcing the King of the Jews was here

Clearly you have been drinking the kool aid. Hermit/wild preachers/revival show men were the rock stars of the day. Best possible platform for a confidence trickster to launch his career. Have an established con man shout about how special you are(a con man that happens to be your cousin). JC reached the maximum possible number of his desired followers, idle lay abouts, naive poor, gullible bumpkins.


Yet another example of lazy coward who won't confront the contradictions in the blood cult he espouses. If you had read the bible, and history from the time the bible(New Testament) was written, and the time the bible(New Testament) writes about(two distinctly different times btw). You would be well aware of the quote attributed to your once and future messiah "You know not the time, nor the place when the son of man will return in all his glory"

So this endless speculation, and "biblical" maths <coughs> by some deluded mouth breathers is just public wanking.

[AndyDufresne]

So why do you not recognize Mahomet as a more up to date messiah after jesus?
And why are you calling the next messiah jesus/christ?

Because he doesn't know the next messiah is actually Maitreya: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maitreya


--Andy

[universalchiro]

*double post*

[universalchiro]

So why do you not recognize Mahomet as a more up to date messiah after jesus?
And why are you calling the next messiah jesus/christ?

Muhammad recognized Jesus as a prophet, no more. This is contrary to the Bible, so one must chose which Holy book is correct. The reason calling Jesus merely a prophet is contrary to the Bible is because in the Bible Jesus is recognized as God in the flesh and Co-Creator of the universe and goes on to say that no one has ever seen God the Father at any time. So all the Old Testament appearing of God in the flesh was God the son, Jesus.

Why do I call the awaited Messiah Jesus? Well it was He Himself that said He was returning in judgment. The New Testament is filled with declarations of Jesus' return. He has many names:
Jesus, Christ, Prince of Peace, Alpha & Omega, beginning & End, Almighty father, Wonderful Counselor, Emmanuel, Lord, Lord of Lords, King of Kings, I AM, Yahweh, Captain of Host, Morning Star, God the Son, etc.
Should be noted that the Quran tells of a coming Mujaddid (Messiah) as well. So all of Judism, Muslim and Christians are awaiting the coming Messiah, and all three say the time is near.

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Another sign the coming Messiah is near, the Quran prophesies that there will be 42 generations after Muhammad and the Mujaddid will return riding on Arabian white horses. We are at the 42nd generation! The Prince of Jordan proclaims to be the 42nd heir to Muhammad! This is significant, numbers mean a lot. Jesus was 42 generations from Abraham (Matthew 1)

[betiko]

So suppose it s true and that this super recognizable messiah shows up next year. What next? Would you still play CC or would you drop everything and follow him everywhere in his world tours?
Or would you be confident to find wifi everywhere he goes to continue playing cc?

Other names I ve heard him called: captain mccormick; DJ McSwag; yoloman; MC Hammer; mister magoo; billy bob; doc vengence; the punisher; frankie goes to hollywood and Amenophis IV

[jonesthecurl]

Oh and my rank is crap, but I did join MENSA. I let the membership lapse several decades ago due to being too busy to do stuff.
That's where I met Asimov, (the toilet-head) who was I believe international chairman or something at the time.

I'm not having a go because I also once joined MENSA for a while, until something a friend said rang true with my cynical side and I almost immediately cancelled my membership:

"So, you're paying an annual sub to this organisation to basically certify that you're smart. Is that the actual behaviour of a smart person?"

I joined Mensa, and I too didn't renew after the first year.

I would have, however, if the membership dues had been cheaper. They were quite expensive.

I suppose that if you're just using it to "certify that you're smart" then it's valid to be cynical, but like anything else, you get out of it what you put into it. If you avail yourself of all the opportunities the organization offers, go to all the social events, meet the other members, you can end up hooking up with a mind-expanding set of people and perhaps end up with some really intriguing opportunities.

Spot on. If you're getting enough out of it it's worth it. I went to a ton of debates and lectures, met loads of interesting people, joined several hobby groups (including a board game one) Then I stopped working in the big city (which was where all this happened), and had other stuff to do, so I let my membership lapse.

[KoolBak]

I think we need a Sunday-Go-To-Meetin tourney with the OP dude......you up for it bible-boy? Buncha 1 on 1's that'll prove your superiority?

And did you all know that I personally am responsible for getting the 1 v 1 games going on CC?

Can I get a witness?!?!?!

I miss brian

[universalchiro]

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So suppose it s true and that this super recognizable messiah shows up next year. What next? Would you still play CC or would you drop everything and follow him everywhere in his world tours?
Or would you be confident to find wifi everywhere he goes to continue playing cc?

Other names I ve heard him called: captain mccormick; DJ McSwag; yoloman; MC Hammer; mister magoo; billy bob; doc vengence; the punisher; frankie goes to hollywood and Amenophis IV

A. The Messiah will show up after 7 years of tribulation.
B. When He shows up, He won't be the meek sacrificial lamb, quite the contrary. This coming will be infull glory, Majesty and He is coming with wrath of fire.

So when believers proclaim the Messiah is near, we are saying the start of the 7 year tribulation that includes:
7 seals of: Peace treaty, war, famine, death, martyrdom, asteroid impacts, sun light is blocked, volcanoes,
7 bowls of plagues: all hell breaks lose. Demons released from a prison to torment, a large asteroid hits the earth, kills 1/3 of all marine life, 1/3 of all vegetation, etc.
7 Trumpets: even deadlier destruction so that every island is moved, every mountain top is brought down & the earth is hit so hard that it wobbles like a drunkard and splits asunder.

Then the Messiah sets up his Kingdom in Jerusalem. His glory will cause no night time in the area. All sin will be eradicated. Only 144,000 Jews (12K from each tribe) & newly saved people that missed the rapture will be alive.

So if someone is looking for signs that the Messiah is near, look to see what signs have been fulfilled in the last 70 years.

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Another sign is: God created everything in 6 days & rested the 7th day.
Jesus spent 6 hours on the cross & rested the 7th hour.
Adam & Eve were created 6,000 years ago, after the Messiah comes, is 1,000 years of rest.

@koolbak: I don't need a bunch of 1v1 to prove my averageness. I've already proclaimed I'm no better than any of the top 250 players. I play the top players and they are very good players.