Coming Messiah

by **universalchiro** on Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:41 pm

degaston wrote:
universalchiro wrote:No one ever has lived perfectly according to their words/beliefs/etc.

Aren't you forgetting someone?

Jesus. Sure.

But quirk quoted a partial statement. I was called a hypocrite. To which I agreed & followed who isn't a hypocrite. No one (besides Jesus( thank you degaston)) has perfectly done according to all theirs words and beliefs.

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Another sign we are close to the Messiah:
The Bible says in the end times God will restore Israel and gather my people from around the world who were scattered and Israel will blossom as a rose in the desert.

Having just traveled to Israel, the surrounding areas are desolate and barren, yet Israel is blossoming in agriculture and commerce. All within the last 60 years.

by **AndyDufresne** on Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:45 pm

universalchiro wrote:Having just traveled to Israel, the surrounding areas are desolate and barren, yet Israel is blossoming in agriculture and commerce. All within the last 60 years.

Very true: "Israel experiencing unprecedented drought conditions"

http://www.jpost.com/Enviro-Tech/Israel ... ons-341003

--Andy

by **macbone** on Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:59 pm

With all due respect, Quirk, it's often the best kinds of people who admit that they don't live up to their ideals. I think all of us do the best we can in life and try to live according to our beliefs.

Even folks who go out of their way to live as good a life as possible ultimately don't live up to their ideals. Say what you will about Benjamin Franklin (prostitute chaser, slave owner, sweet bifocals), but he did at least set out some ideals to follow, and he found that the more he tightened his grip on one, the more other virtues would slip through his fingers.

Peter Kreeft puts it another way: "The best people are the ones who are most reluctant to call themselves good people. Sinners think they are saints, but saints know they are sinners. The best man who ever lived once said, 'No one is good but God alone.'"

by **mrswdk** on Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:03 pm

How could anyone possibly act in a way that is not congruent with their beliefs?

by **Symmetry** on Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:05 pm

mrswdk wrote:How could anyone possibly act in a way that is not congruent with their beliefs?

You'll understand when you're older. Trust me, it'll be ok.

by **Metsfanmax** on Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:00 pm

mrswdk wrote:How could anyone possibly act in a way that is not congruent with their beliefs?

Multiple personality disorder?

by **degaston** on Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:17 pm

mrswdk wrote:How could anyone possibly act in a way that is not congruent with their beliefs?

I believe that getting more exercise would be good for me. My actions are not congruent with that belief.

by **Quirk** on Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:49 pm

universalchiro wrote:
Quirk wrote:
universalchiro wrote: No one ever has lived perfectly according to their words/beliefs/etc.

What a ridiculous statement.

People can be so cold and brash through the keyboard 1,000s of miles away. Quirk it will serve you better if you are more tactful and kind. Also state why you view the statement is in error, rather than just making a blanket statement with no premise.
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Get ready the time is near!

I have heard "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" my entire life. It should not be difficult to understand how a non-Christian might find it offensive to be told that we are all sinners. I realize the world is filled with people who strive for the unattainable and I pity them. I strongly believe it is possible to live a fulfilling life without compromising your beliefs. I accept when someone tells me "we are all sinners" that just disagreeing with that makes me a sinner. However, saying no one ever has lived perfectly according to their own words/beliefs/etc. is saying something more.

by **universalchiro** on Mon Mar 24, 2014 11:38 pm

Okay, well thought out and written, thank you. I understand your view.

by **mrswdk** on Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:20 am

degaston wrote:
mrswdk wrote:How could anyone possibly act in a way that is not congruent with their beliefs?

I believe that getting more exercise would be good for me. My actions are not congruent with that belief.

Wrong.

by **oVo** on Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:22 am

I doubt anyone falls short of the glory of god,
our mere existence is proof of that.

We're all human and make mistakes, but that
is what the human experience is all about...
and all sins are forgiven.

by **kuthoer** on Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:20 am

oVo wrote:I doubt anyone falls short of the glory of god,
our mere existence is proof of that.

We're all human and make mistakes, but that
is what the human experience is all about...
and all sins are forgiven.

All sins are forgiven? Even mass killers and pedophiles?

by **Symmetry** on Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:23 am

kuthoer wrote:
oVo wrote:I doubt anyone falls short of the glory of god,
our mere existence is proof of that.

We're all human and make mistakes, but that
is what the human experience is all about...
and all sins are forgiven.

All sins are forgiven? Even mass killers and pedophiles?

Well the Bible is pretty clear about mass murder being ok in some circumstances, and paedophelia isn't a crime, so...

by **notyou2** on Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:31 am

Symmetry wrote:
kuthoer wrote:
oVo wrote:I doubt anyone falls short of the glory of god,
our mere existence is proof of that.

We're all human and make mistakes, but that
is what the human experience is all about...
and all sins are forgiven.

All sins are forgiven? Even mass killers and pedophiles?

Well the Bible is pretty clear about mass murder being ok in some circumstances, and paedophelia isn't a crime, so...

Quick, marry yer underage cousins before god rewrites his books.

by **kuthoer** on Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:03 am

notyou2 wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
kuthoer wrote:
oVo wrote:I doubt anyone falls short of the glory of god,
our mere existence is proof of that.

We're all human and make mistakes, but that
is what the human experience is all about...
and all sins are forgiven.

All sins are forgiven? Even mass killers and pedophiles?

Well the Bible is pretty clear about mass murder being ok in some circumstances, and paedophelia isn't a crime, so...

Quick, marry yer underage cousins before god rewrites his books.

God is telling me to sacrifice my eldest son.....should I obey? Remember, God before family, right?

by **Symmetry** on Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:21 am

The burning bush in that story was clearly an allegory for STD's. Which are transmitted by the gays. Just like 9/11 and Hurricane Katrina.

by **kuthoer** on Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:15 am

Symmetry wrote:The burning bush in that story was clearly an allegory for STD's. Which are transmitted by the gays. Just like 9/11 and Hurricane Katrina.

Yes and God is punishing us in Chicago with a terrible winter for legalizing Gay marriage and being pro-choice. At least God helped us with global warming.

by **AndyDufresne** on Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:41 pm

A news item from gaming news behemoth Polygon.

Did Satan interfere with a biblical Kickstarter?

Damn you Satan, DAMN YOU.

--Andy

by **nietzsche** on Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:17 pm

This thread is now a troll training facility for CC Troilling Academy.

by **degaston** on Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:32 pm

nietzsche wrote:This thread is now a troll training facility for CC Troilling Academy.

You're just mad because you were defeated by him!

by **BigBallinStalin** on Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:57 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:A news item from gaming news behemoth Polygon.

Did Satan interfere with a biblical Kickstarter?

Damn you Satan, DAMN YOU.

--Andy

They only got $19,000 of $100,000, and suddenly the Devil gets blamed. Good publicity. Maybe the susceptible will start donating.

by **universalchiro** on Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:47 pm

Another sign that the Messiah is near:
The Bible describes at the end times there will be incurable diseases/pestilences as a result of mankind's sin. For example HIV resulting in AIDS is just one of many indicators that the Messiah is near.

"He told them this parable: “Look at the fig tree and all the trees. 30 When they sprout leaves, you can see for yourselves and know that summer is near. Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that the kingdom of God is near." Get ready.

by **Army of GOD** on Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:51 pm

universalchiro wrote:Another sign that the Messiah is near:
The Bible describes at the end times there will be incurable diseases/pestilences as a result of mankind's sin. For example HIV resulting in AIDS is just one of many indicators that the Messiah is near.

"He told them this parable: “Look at the fig tree and all the trees. 30 When they sprout leaves, you can see for yourselves and know that summer is near. Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that the kingdom of God is near." Get ready.

Polio isn't curable eith....oh wait a minute..