Coming Messiah

[Symmetry]

Another sign that the Messiah is near:
The Bible describes at the end times there will be incurable diseases/pestilences as a result of mankind's sin. For example HIV resulting in AIDS is just one of many indicators that the Messiah is near.

Early Treatment Is Found to Clear H.I.V. in a 2nd Baby

Oh dear, another rain-check on the apocalypse.

[degaston]

Another sign that the Messiah is near:
The Bible describes at the end times there will be incurable diseases/pestilences as a result of mankind's sin. For example HIV resulting in AIDS is just one of many indicators that the Messiah is near.

"He told them this parable: “Look at the fig tree and all the trees. 30 When they sprout leaves, you can see for yourselves and know that summer is near. Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that the kingdom of God is near." Get ready.

You never heard of the Black Death? I bet a lot of people who went through that thought that Jesus was going to be showing up soon. They were wrong, too.

[universalchiro]

<said with heavy French accent> "But of course!"


And if HIV was the only indicator then these "end time" believers would be premature just like every generation that has preceded. For I doubt one generation said,"nah, we aren't even close to the second coming of the Messiah". I'm sure they had convincing arguments, but they didn't have the overwhelming evidence that we have today. I know b/c I went back in time and asked them

For one Israel wasn't a nation until 1948 & didn't have Jerusalem until 1967, both requirements. No generation had a 200 million man army until General Mao boasted thus, another requirements. No generation had Euphrates dry up, but we have capabilities today with all of Turkey's damns, another requirement. The list keeps going.

Get Ready! How to be ready & know you are ready? Only by confessing Jesus the Christ as Lord and Savior of your life.

[AndyDufresne]

So the definition of nation is wholly dependent on definition of the word in your point in history. I like.


--Andy

[jonesthecurl]

Once you accept his point of view, the bible will prove it to you. Until you do, you can't understand the bible. Simple, really.

[BigBallinStalin]

None of you understand because y'all aren't Christian enough. You can't handle the truth.

[universalchiro]

Another fulfilled sign the Messiah is near:
The Bibles describes there will be signs in the heavens and sun and stars just before the tribulation. No generation prior to current has ever witnessed an asteroid collide into Jupiter, or seen the surface of the sun, or walked on the moon, or seen and tested the CO2 polar caps on Mars, nor seen the surface of a comet, nor seen ice volcanoes erupting from Saturn's moons, nor seen a coronal mass ejection, nor known the length of a day for Mercury, nor seen a spiral galaxy, nor seen trillions of galaxies, nor walked in space, etc. until this generation. And this was only possible with a fulfillment of another prophecy that said the Day of the Lord will be when knowledge is increased. We could not travel into space nor adequately see space until knowledge increased.

No generation prior to current has seen the signs/wonders of the heavens. A requirement fulfilled that no prior generation could understand. Get ready the Messiah is near.


Furthermore, upon the issuance of the "Code Red", the end is near. Lol. BigBallinStallin that was for you bubba.

[kuthoer]

Another fulfilled sign the Messiah is near:
The Bibles describes there will be signs in the heavens and sun and stars just before the tribulation. No generation prior to current has ever witnessed an asteroid collide into Jupiter, or seen the surface of the sun, or walked on the moon, or seen and tested the CO2 polar caps on Mars, nor seen the surface of a comet, nor seen ice volcanoes erupting from Saturn's moons, nor seen a coronal mass ejection, nor known the length of a day for Mercury, nor seen a spiral galaxy, nor seen trillions of galaxies, nor walked in space, etc. until this generation. And this was only possible with a fulfillment of another prophecy that said the Day of the Lord will be when knowledge is increased. We could not travel into space nor adequately see space until knowledge increased.

No generation prior to current has seen the signs/wonders of the heavens. A requirement fulfilled that no prior generation could understand. Get ready the Messiah is near.


Furthermore, upon the issuance of the "Code Red", the end is near. Lol. BigBallinStallin that was for you bubba.

This "The end is near" crap is a business model for churches to increase their profit margins.

[degaston]

Another fulfilled sign the Messiah is near:
The Bibles describes there will be signs in the heavens and sun and stars just before the tribulation. No generation prior to current has ever witnessed an asteroid collide into Jupiter, or seen the surface of the sun, or walked on the moon, or seen and tested the CO2 polar caps on Mars, nor seen the surface of a comet, nor seen ice volcanoes erupting from Saturn's moons, nor seen a coronal mass ejection, nor known the length of a day for Mercury, nor seen a spiral galaxy, nor seen trillions of galaxies, nor walked in space, etc. until this generation. And this was only possible with a fulfillment of another prophecy that said the Day of the Lord will be when knowledge is increased. We could not travel into space nor adequately see space until knowledge increased.

No generation prior to current has seen the signs/wonders of the heavens. A requirement fulfilled that no prior generation could understand.

One generation is about 25 years, depending on the era and culture. Many of your "signs" happened somewhere between 2 and 95 generations ago (The Chinese recorded sunspots in 364 BCE).

Yes, knowledge is increasing. Religion and God were invented by people who had little knowledge about how the world worked. They wanted an explanation for why things happened, and they wanted a way to live in an orderly society in a time when getting away with crime was probably fairly easy.

Why does it rain?
God's crying - probably because of something you did.
Why shouldn't I steal, or kill, or screw my neighbor's wife?
Because God is watching, and even if you don't get caught, he'll punish you later.

Science and law enforcement have eliminated the most of the need for God. But some people can't handle the idea that "Nobody knows" is sometimes the answer, or that some questions will never have an answer. So they latch on to religion because it claims to have all the answers, or if it doesn't, then it offers the soothing reassurance that God knows, and it's all part of his plan, and it's all for the best - "there, don't you feel better now?" Some of those answers may be helpful, or make you feel better, but the entire foundation is just a very old fairy tale. And a big business has built up around it that desperately wants to keep it going, and keep the money flowing. Religion fears knowledge - it has from the beginning, because knowledge helps us see through religion's lies, and exposes it for what it really is.

Get ready the Messiah is near.

Okay, I think I'm ready now!

[AndyDufresne]

--Andy

[universalchiro]

@Kuthoer: yep, corruption in the churches especially seeking money, there are good and bad in all.
And BTW this is another sign.

@degaston: yep you look ready. The length of life for a generation is 80-120 years. The earliest sign I have is 1948 when Israel became a nation again as prophesied 700BC. So well within time frame. My oldest sign is 76 years old. Look at how many signs have occurred in so recent a time. All according to how Bible foretold 1,000s of years ago.

BTW Princess Bride is one of my favorite comedies:) Did you know that Goliath's brother also a giant had 6 fingers.

[degaston]

The length of life for a generation is 80-120 years.

Are you trying to claim that people born 30 or more years ago are part of the "current generation"?' You're not allowed to make up your own meanings for words.

When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.'

Here's a book that has a lot of truth in it:

gen·er·a·tion
noun \ˌje-nə-ˈrā-shən\
: a group of people born and living during the same time
: the people in a family born and living during the same time
: the average length of time between the birth of parents and the birth of their children

The earliest sign I have is 1948 when Israel became a nation again as prophesied 700BC. So well within time frame. My oldest sign is 76 years old. Look at how many signs have occurred in so recent a time. All according to how Bible foretold 1,000s of years ago.

Spiral galaxy: Edwin Hubble, 1936
Coronal mass ejections: Richard Carrington, 1859
Not exactly breaking news. Neither is anything from 1948.

Did you know that Goliath's brother also a giant had 6 fingers.

And there was yet a visit to my grandmother's house, where was a cat of great stature, that had on one front foot seven toes, and on the other eight, and on every back foot five toes, five and twenty in number.
- Beats Goliath's brother by one!

[universalchiro]

@degaston: you know clearly from my post that I'm using:
gen·er·a·tion noun \ˌje-nə-ˈrā-shən\: a group of people born and living during the same time:.

And not using : the average length of time between the birth of parents and the birth of their children.
So no need to strain the line of communication and make things more difficult than they have to be.

You also know that no generation has seen the signs/wonders in the Heavens as current. So don't strain the micro-particles out of air to enjoy breathing.


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Another sign that the Messiah is near: the Bible foretold in the end times the weather would be more extreme. Colder winters, hotter summers, more severe hurricanes, more frequent tornadoes, more frequent hail storms, more drought, more floods, etc. We are seeing this today.

[AndyDufresne]

Another sign that the Messiah is near: the Bible foretold in the end times the weather would be more extreme. Colder winters, hotter summers, more severe hurricanes, more frequent tornadoes, more frequent hail storms, more drought, more floods, etc. We are seeing this today.

Makes sense. You can't argue with this.


--Andy

[jonesthecurl]

I think astronomers are doing astronomy, not looking for portents.

[universalchiro]

Another sign that the Messiah is near: the Bible foretold in the end times the weather would be more extreme. Colder winters, hotter summers, more severe hurricanes, more frequent tornadoes, more frequent hail storms, more drought, more floods, etc. We are seeing this today.

Makes sense. You can't argue with this.


--Andy

Andy, according to the bylaws of section code 101.275 of Volume 8, no abiding atheist is allowed to agree with any post of uni-Chiro. You are on probation and any further violation is punishable by the removal of your great-great-great(X10exp1trillion)grandpa Andrew Amoeba of his accolades of discovering cellular mitosis.

[BigBallinStalin]

Another sign that the Messiah is near: the Bible foretold in the end times the weather would be more extreme. Colder winters, hotter summers, more severe hurricanes, more frequent tornadoes, more frequent hail storms, more drought, more floods, etc. We are seeing this today.

Makes sense. You can't argue with this.


--Andy

There was "more extreme weather" during the recent "Global Cooling" phase, in the 1400s when it was extraordinarily cold, and when that giant asteroid knocked out the dinosaurs mostly by dramatically changing the global climate. Given how vague "more extreme" is, I can find any instance anywhere in the world which has an above average activity in weather compared to its past or compared to some other place.

UC's motto: "Confirmation bias FTW."

[universalchiro]

I think astronomers are doing astronomy, not looking for portents.

Not so fast, the forefathers of astronomy are the Magi. And every astronomer marvels at the heavens.

@BigBallinStallin: dude the ice age was mild even for the hominoids to shed their hair
Also I cite the documentary film "Ice Age" lol.
Granted the ice age was pretty intense, but so too was the global flood that caused the ice age which occurred about 4,500 years ago. But the Bible is referencing near the end of the age, when the second coming of the Messiah, then the weather will become progressively more and more extreme as nature groans in labor awaiting the arrival of the Creator. Its even scribed as a woman's labor gets more frequent and more intense, so too will the weather the closer we get to the Messiah. So seeing today's weather it is becoming more intense.

[degaston]

@degaston: you know clearly from my post that I'm using:
gen·er·a·tion noun \ˌje-nə-ˈrā-shən\: a group of people born and living during the same time:.

I'm not trying to strain the communication, but to help you see that words have specific meanings, and you weaken your argument when you misuse them. The word "born" is in there for a reason. My parents are living at the same time as my children, but they were not born during the same time, and are not part of the same generation. My children, and anyone up to about age 30 is, by definition, the "current generation".

I see you like to use the expression "no previous generation", to try to give some relevance to your message. But when you include things that happened long ago (i.e. a majority, if not all of the people who were alive at that time are now dead), or have happened many times before (pandemics, natural and economic disasters, etc.), it becomes obvious that you have no strong basis for your sense of urgency, and are just throwing everything you can think of on the wall to see what sticks. Your claims are vague, and without evidence, and you don't even cite the bible passages that you claim are the source of these predictions.

[AndyDufresne]

I think astronomers are doing astronomy, not looking for portents.

Not so fast, the forefathers of astronomy are the Magi. And every astronomer marvels at the heavens.

@BigBallinStallin: dude the ice age was mild even for the hominoids to shed their hair
Also I cite the documentary film "Ice Age" lol.
Granted the ice age was pretty intense, but so too was the global flood that caused the ice age which occurred about 4,500 years ago. But the Bible is referencing near the end of the age, when the second coming of the Messiah, then the weather will become progressively more and more extreme as nature groans in labor awaiting the arrival of the Creator. Its even scribed as a woman's labor gets more frequent and more intense, so too will the weather the closer we get to the Messiah. So seeing today's weather it is becoming more intense.

Makes sense, you can't argue with this.


--Andy

[universalchiro]

@degaston: whatever dude you win, you have it all figured out. You have out smarted even God.

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The Bible describes in the later days, when God restore Israel to be a nation, He will gather the Jews from around the world to Israel and from the north. Due north of Jerusalem is Moscow. Over 1million Jews have come from Russia to the promise land.

[mrswdk]

Just one tiny brain fart from chiro and OTers are raging for weeks. Symmetry must be so jealous.

[BigBallinStalin]

I think astronomers are doing astronomy, not looking for portents.

Not so fast, the forefathers of astronomy are the Magi. And every astronomer marvels at the heavens.

@BigBallinStallin: dude the ice age was mild even for the hominoids to shed their hair
Also I cite the documentary film "Ice Age" lol.
Granted the ice age was pretty intense, but so too was the global flood that caused the ice age which occurred about 4,500 years ago. But the Bible is referencing near the end of the age, when the second coming of the Messiah, then the weather will become progressively more and more extreme as nature groans in labor awaiting the arrival of the Creator. Its even scribed as a woman's labor gets more frequent and more intense, so too will the weather the closer we get to the Messiah. So seeing today's weather it is becoming more intense.

So, the global flood should've indicated the coming of the Messiah. And feel free to ignore the other indicators of the coming Messiah.

Again, your analysis doesn't control for confirmation bias. This is why no one takes you seriously. You don't care to address your logical fallacies. I hear a train a'coming....

[universalchiro]

@BigBallinStallin: you get a pass here, for you are unaware that the flood occurred around 4,500 years ago and the prophecies I'm referencing occurred between 2,000 to 3,000 years ago. So there is no contradiction. But I understand your strong belief that the Bible can't be true, so this prevents you from seeing all these signs being fulfilled before your eyes.

[BigBallinStalin]

It's already been shown that much of your reasoning relies on logical fallacies, which you'll refuse to address. We can safely conclude that we shouldn't take you seriously.