Based on the layers in the crust, how old is the Earth?

[denominator]

I've heard that the continents float around on the ocean too. Maybe these two theories are related.

If by theories, you mean universalchiro's parents, then I agree with you.

[hotfire]

I've heard that the continents float around on the ocean too. Maybe these two theories are related.

If by theories, you mean universalchiro's parents, then I agree with you.

the beautiful thing about tectonics is that this is actually true as continental crust is lighter than basaltic ocean crust so it doesn't really get recycled into magma and is why the oldest rocks and fossils are on land

[universalchiro]

oh so typical for evolutionist to lose another debate, have no answer for the problem why soil of the crust is smoothly layered without commingling and resort to personal attacks. Oh the faithful zealot evolutionist.

[kuthoer]

oh so typical for evolutionist to lose another debate, have no answer for the problem why soil of the crust is smoothly layered without commingling and resort to personal attacks. Oh the faithful zealot evolutionist.

Hitting head against desk repeatedly

[universalchiro]

Just like a chimp, you have no answer so you either attack the creationist or self mutilate.

[hotfire]

Just like a chimp, you have no answer so you either attack the creationist or self mutilate.

proof of common ancestry?

[TA1LGUNN3R]

A common mistake is to look at the rate of soil accumulation today and extrapolate that it's always been this rate. If that were the case, then there would be commingling of the soil layers from erosion, but there is not.

Why?

How does, say, a top layer intermingle with a lower layer? What is the area of effect that "erosion" has? Where is the water (I think it disappeared a long time ago).

Are you familiar with heterogenous mixtures?

-TG

[Jmac1026]

oh so typical for evolutionist to lose another debate, have no answer for the problem why soil of the crust is smoothly layered without commingling and resort to personal attacks. Oh the faithful zealot evolutionist.

If it serves to confuse you any more, I'm Christian.

[universalchiro]

jmac, how do you know you are a Christian and why are you a Christian?

[AndyDufresne]

jmac, how do you know you are a Christian and why are you a Christian?

I think its probably the commingling of his spirit with the spirit of the lord. I'll look for more evidence with an electronic scanning microscope later, if Jmac would be so kind as to provide me with soulular samples.


--Andy

[universalchiro]

Just like a chimp, you have no answer so you either attack the creationist or self mutilate.

proof of common ancestry?

It is the best evidence evolutionist have unwittingly presented in any forum for evolution; The primal response of banging his head on table.

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How does a creationist explain the many layers? During the flood in Noah's day, the flood waters were filled with tons of soil. How did the soil get in the flood waters? Asteroid impacts, volcanic activity, fast moving tectonic plates and water burst out of the deep fountains within the deep (Genesis 7:11). The soil in the water settled according to density over the next year as the waters receded from the 40 days and 40 nights of rain.
The lack of commingling of the layers from erosion is evidence that the layers formed quickly. This is in accordance with the Biblical flood record.

oh so typical for evolutionist to lose another debate, have no answer for the problem why soil of the crust is smoothly layered without commingling and resort to personal attacks. Oh the faithful zealot evolutionist.

Don’t worry, I’m on board 150%! I mean you show the Grand Canyon right there, layered according to the weight of each mineral present with no commingling.

show

You would have to be crazy to question things further, but to all you sadly uneducated mainstream science believers that believe "wind" and "gravity" naturally spread eroded sediment into flat layers, I’ll spell it out for you.
Heavy things sink, light things float, so from lightest to heaviest we have the following.
Limestone > Mixture > Sandstone > Shale > Sandstone > Mixture > Mixture > Mixture > Limestone > Limestone > Limestone > Shale > Sandstone > Mixture > Mixture > Mixture > Mixture > Basalt > Sandstone > Quartzite > Shale > Limestone > Granite

[notyou2]

How does a creationist explain the many layers? During the flood in Noah's day, the flood waters were filled with tons of soil. How did the soil get in the flood waters? Asteroid impacts, volcanic activity, fast moving tectonic plates and water burst out of the deep fountains within the deep (Genesis 7:11). The soil in the water settled according to density over the next year as the waters receded from the 40 days and 40 nights of rain.
The lack of commingling of the layers from erosion is evidence that the layers formed quickly. This is in accordance with the Biblical flood record.

oh so typical for evolutionist to lose another debate, have no answer for the problem why soil of the crust is smoothly layered without commingling and resort to personal attacks. Oh the faithful zealot evolutionist.

Don’t worry, I’m on board 150%! I mean you show the Grand Canyon right there, layered according to the weight of each mineral present with no commingling.

show

You would have to be crazy to question things further, but to all you sadly uneducated mainstream science believers that believe "wind" and "gravity" naturally spread eroded sediment into flat layers, I’ll spell it out for you.
Heavy things sink, light things float, so from lightest to heaviest we have the following.
Limestone > Mixture > Sandstone > Shale > Sandstone > Mixture > Mixture > Mixture > Limestone > Limestone > Limestone > Shale > Sandstone > Mixture > Mixture > Mixture > Mixture > Basalt > Sandstone > Quartzite > Shale > Limestone > Granite

Thanks for that professor F Slash.

[Jmac1026]

jmac, how do you know you are a Christian and why are you a Christian?

I think its probably the commingling of his spirit with the spirit of the lord. I'll look for more evidence with an electronic scanning microscope later, if Jmac would be so kind as to provide me with soulular samples.


--Andy

Its in the mail. Let me know when your tests are done. I too am curious about the results.

[AndyDufresne]

jmac, how do you know you are a Christian and why are you a Christian?

I think its probably the commingling of his spirit with the spirit of the lord. I'll look for more evidence with an electronic scanning microscope later, if Jmac would be so kind as to provide me with soulular samples.


--Andy

Its in the mail. Let me know when your tests are done. I too am curious about the results.

Thanks for sending it Rush via courier, so we can get to the bottom of Jmac's spiritual connection with the spirit of the lord.

Based upon my investigation using an electronic scanning microscope of Jmac's soulular material, you can clearly see that the lord's spirit (identified in a blue box) is commingling with the spirit elements that make up Jmac's spirit (identified as green stars). The remaining elements of the image are harmless bacterium though, Jmac, you might want to get the item in the lower left (identified by a purple right triangle) looked at more closely by other medical professionals.



CONCLUSION: JMAC'S SPIRIT INDEED IS COMMINGLING WITH THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD. JMAC ALSO SEEMS INFESTED WITH HARMLESS BACTERIUM, SAVE ONE SPOT THAT WARRANTS CLOSER INSPECTION.


--Andy

[GoranZ]

oh so typical for evolutionist to lose another debate, have no answer for the problem why soil of the crust is smoothly layered without commingling and resort to personal attacks. Oh the faithful zealot evolutionist.

nope... evolutionist didn't lose anything , it is you and those like you on the losing path.
As it is Religion becomes bigger and bigger problem for our planet, and eventually there will come a generation of politicians that will solve it the only way you guys deserve... By brutal force, after all your hands are quite bloody from the centuries of ruling
If you find my previous statements too hard, its because its the only language you guys understand... And you have quite big debt to pay off

P.S. Communists almost finish you off in some countries, and it turn out that you weren't needed by the general population... So live and try to promote your "ideas" while you can, since it will come time when you wont be able to

[universalchiro]

Not one bit of evidence why the layers of the crust are smooth without commingling from the evolutionist? Look at their responses, filled with trolls, jokes, personal attacks and no answer. Creationist present a logical explanation.

[Metsfanmax]

Not one bit of evidence why the layers of the crust are smooth without commingling from the evolutionist? Look at their responses, filled with trolls, jokes, personal attacks and no answer. Creationist present a logical explanation.

Is the chance that you would change your mind greater than zero? If not, why would anyone bother responding? If you're just coming here to tell people that they are wrong and have no intention to actually have an open-minded conversation, go somewhere else, because we don't want you here.

[denominator]

Not one bit of evidence why the layers of the crust are smooth without commingling from the evolutionist? Look at their responses, filled with trolls, jokes, personal attacks and no answer. Creationist present a logical explanation.

Is the chance that you would change your mind greater than zero? If not, why would anyone bother responding? If you're just coming here to tell people that they are wrong and have no intention to actually have an open-minded conversation, go somewhere else, because we don't want you here.

This.

Anyone with half a brain, regardless of their religious beliefs or scientific knowledge, can use Google to figure out any of the "problems" UC is throwing out there. It's pretty clear to me that he's just trolling for the heck of it so I'm not going to bother wasting my energy putting together well formed arguments that are falling on deaf ears.

[universalchiro]

dominator you don't post evidence or bring logic, all you bring is faithful dogma of evolution. This is a repeated theme of yours: no evidence, no logic, just a "yes man" mentality for evolution. Unless you bring evidence or show quality, you're on ignore list of trolls.

Still no answer from evolutionist. They've all searched the Internet but can't find an answer.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Well, uc, I attempted to engage you, but you ignored me. Now you've foed me because you couldn't take the heat in the other thread, but I'll post it here regardless, in case you decide to grow up and peek out from your little sand hole.

Why is there no "commingling" between the layers? Oh, I don't know, maybe because there're thousands of years between them.

When you're standing on some regular old soil, do you sink in? No? I thought not. So why would some soil just spontaneously fight against the normal force and mix in with layers hundreds or thousands of feet below it?

Do you think that soil is pulled down with water? Not really. Water travels through. Sure, some minerals may be transported along with it, but how far? You realize that water doesn't travel all the way to the center of the earth, right? At some point it cannot go further.

Now take my example and apply it to sedimentation, or rocks, or shale, or whatever has greater density. Hopefully you aren't so dumb that you can't recognize why a top layer of fucking rock doesn't mix with one a hundred feet below it.

Don't worry, I don't expect you to respond. You may keep up the pretense of ignoring me.

-TG

[JBlombier]

I didn't read a post in this thread, just posting my opinion.

I think the world is 4.6 billion years old, because the evidence for that seems a lot more reasonable than the religious statements. That's pretty much what I have to say about it. I've never felt the need to debate this to a religious person, because they're entitled to their opinion. This is merely mine.

I'll just share my mother's opinion, just for this topic's sake. My mother is very religious and believes in God. It has helped her through rough times, so I'm glad she does. She also says, and I quote, "it's ignorant to say the world is 6000 years old, just because a 2000 year old book says so". The seven days in which God made the earth are nonsense, because they are described by men. There's no way of knowing whether the seven days in which God created earth are the same as humans interpret them, she even thinks that's highly unlikely. She thinks of the seven days of seven stages, with no absolute time attached to it. These last sentences are all my mother's, not mine.

My religious mother hasn't shed a tear about my scientific view of the world, because she's happy with her God and I'm happy without her God. We're both happy and that's what a mother wants. I wish the world would be more like this. There is no need to convince each other of your own belief.

- JBlombier

[universalchiro]

JBlombier, I respect your choice and how you worded why you believe the earth is billions of years is also acceptable. When I hear believers such as your mom with her view, I ask them is it impossible for an all powerful God to create a 1,000ft tall tree in a day, is it impossible to create a fully formed universe and everything in it in 6 days? No.
From a theological view I would turn your mom's attention to scripture: Exodus 20 God said 6 days you shall work and rest the 7th, For I made everything in 6 days and rested the 7th. And God wrote this in stone called the 10 commandments. And guess what? God repeated Himself in Exodus 31 saying 6 days you shall work and rest the 7th, for I created everything in 6 days and rested the 7th. It was/is so important to God that he verbally said and wrote in stone twice.
In the Bible whenever the word day has a number in front of it, the day means one rotation of earth.
Each day in Genesis creation has a number in front. In addition, "evening & morning" for each day.

[JBlombier]

Your interpreting it in a different way. My mom, who is a huge believer and cannot be turned away from her faith, says that the bible isn't written by God. I think this last statement will be looked at as common sense by 99% of the users here. I'm not saying that makes it true, because everyone is entitled to their opinion. But even my mom will never say God wrote Exodus 31 or Exodus 20, because she's quite certain those words were written by men, as am I.

It's even more interesting you bring the word theological into the conversation, because my mom (oh, she'll be delighted to have been discussed about on a risk-forum, lol) actually studied theology on the university of Amsterdam and delivered a masterpiece of a thesis for which she got a 9.8 from her professors. My mom is aware of the beautiful aspects all religions have, but also aware of the nasty side effects it can have on society, something she's still voluntary trying to put a stop on, using a motto like: "everyone can believe, everyone can live, everyone can enjoy, together."

Long story short, just because the Bible implicates that 1 day is 1 rotation around the earth, doesn't necesarrily mean that God sees it thatway.It means that humans put it in words like that, because it makes it simpler for us to understand.