Exterpated Tea Baggers

[oVo]

Nationally support for the Tea Bags is down about two thirds
and as they fade I hope Ted Cruz sinks with them.

[DaGip]

In the beginning, the Tea Party became the slogan of the Ron Paul Revolution libertarian movement. Then, the term was stolen by pissed off Republicans who really weren't all that libertarian to begin with. Then all the racist crazies started joining the faction. Almost all your fundamentalist Christians are Tea Baggers, in addition to believing that Obama is the Antichrist (also propagated by the History Channel television series The Bible)



The more you see the types of people that are joining the Tea Party, the more you really want to distance yourself from these blithering fools. When they claim that they stand for Liberty...whose liberty would that be? The white, Christian, patriarchal population?

Now, all of a sudden, the Tea Baggers are all worried about diseases coming over from Mexico. I LAUGH OUT LOUD! Really??? Diseases??? Criminals??? That's their pathetic excuse to stop innocent human beings from coming over to see family in the United States? Since when did Mexico become the sole bearer of diseases and criminals? Jesus Christ, their ilk makes me want to puke!

If the shit does hit the fan in this country, make sure you wipe your ass with this:

[oVo]

The paranoid rants of the shit hitting the fan is one of America's biggest problems and social media's abundance of fiction, half truths and total propaganda doesn't help. When people finally begin doing what is right for the all the right reasons life will improve for everyone.

When peace loving individuals get as organized as the war mongers this World will be a much better place to live.

[ChrisPond]

I actually agree with Da Gip on the beginning of the Tea Party Movement. As a libertarian and a guy that has caucused for Ron Paul, he is correct that it started as a Ron Paul movement...small government, stop the nation building and so on. It really started at the Republican National Convention when they shut Ron Paul out. I went to a "Tea Party Rally" on tax day the next spring to see what it was all about. After all, I was pretty interested in meeting like minded small government people. Instead I was disappointed that the rally was mostly about abortion and gay marriage, with a little small government throw in there.

I would say the Tea Party is not what it started as or I wish it would have remained, but at least it is still anti-Republican establishment.

I am a pretty independent voter, I voted for candidates in at least 3 (I think 4) different parties last election and an independent or 2. I vote for the person, not the party. I love how my republican friends tell me how it is my fault when a progressive like John McCain does not get elected. I also love to hear my Democrat friends tell me they vote straight D because "they will give me the most ....". And how both sides mock me for voting for who I think is best for the country in general.

[oVo]

I agree with attempting to know the merits of each candidate and essentially voting independently. Because of who is on the ballots I've been close to voting straight Democrat the past two elections. I'm in a "red state" so my impact is local, not national. Ballots in recent elections are confusing and I have little doubt that the majority of voters know little to nothing about the candidates who get their vote. Information can be hard to come by, name recognition and rumor win out much of the time as most ballots are difficult to make informed decisions on any issue or person you have not researched.

I find the thought of John McCain being "progressive" funny. He seemed a decent Republican candidate when he ran against Bush for the party's nomination, but proved himself to be a pussy vs the Karl Rove election machine. Now I think he'll say anything to promote his electability and is a two faced joke that should give up his Senate seat to a more worthy person, if such a thing exists in his district.

Against Obama and the financial problems back in 2008 he was clueless, and still seems to think our military is the solution to the world's problems.

[ChrisPond]

Not sure how you define being a progressive politician but my simple definition would be that they think bigger government can solve the problems.

John McCain voted for:
TARP bailout
mortgage bailout
Auto bailout
AIG bailout

In addition, he believes government can solve global warming ( he sponsored a bill for cap and trade). I know he sponsored at least one bill to increase fuel standards on auto makers.

He voted against the Bush tax cuts

Pretty sure he voted for the TSA and for Homeland a Security, i know he sponsored a bill to federalize airport security. Pretty sure he voted for the Patriot Act. He voted to expand AmeriCorps.

He is for a huge military and big military spending so we can police the world and intervene (I guess the libertarian in me sees this as progressive but I am sure the conservative war hawks love it. People like to say liberal democrats are against wars but look how many conflicts President Obama has put us in).

I also believe he is a big Teddy Rooselvelt fan and uses him as an example as who he wants to be like. Teddy was a progressive Republican.

What did I forget or get wrong? Going off of memory from when he ran against Obama. These are some reasons I would not vote for him.

I also think President Bush was a progressive Republican.

[Phatscotty]

I actually agree with Da Gip on the beginning of the Tea Party Movement. As a libertarian and a guy that has caucused for Ron Paul, he is correct that it started as a Ron Paul movement...small government, stop the nation building and so on. It really started at the Republican National Convention when they shut Ron Paul out. I went to a "Tea Party Rally" on tax day the next spring to see what it was all about. After all, I was pretty interested in meeting like minded small government people. Instead I was disappointed that the rally was mostly about abortion and gay marriage, with a little small government throw in there.

I hear that every once in a while, but I have never heard that at a Tea Party, EVER. Granted, things are different in different places. But I have already realized that any deusche can get up on a rostrum and say whatever they want, and then just claim they are Tea Party, and that is all the evidence people need to make the decision that is what the Tea Party is about, and then 'logically conclude' that the national debt and the size of government aren't a big deal after hearing about gay marriage and abortion. I have already realized that if you say anything about gay marriage or abortion, that automatically means the debt and printing money isn't a big deal anymore. Think about that for a sec.

Hey, I heard a Democrat say he was proud to be a Socialist. I guess that means all Democrats are socialist?

I know virtually every Tea Party event has been recorded and is on youtube. So to ChrisPond, would you mind attempting to show me some evidence from your Tea Party that it was all about political footballs, and nothing to do with their stated mission statement or the issue addressed in their name?

[Phatscotty]

Nationally support for the Tea Bags is down about two thirds
and as they fade I hope Ted Cruz sinks with them.

Same with the support for Obama.

I guess that means the Democrat party is finished for all time. Nice logic, nice bait. Your 'news' has already been shared here a long time ago when the support dropped by 2/3, based along some similar complete bullshit that Jared Loughner was a Tea Bagger, despite all evidence to the contrary he was anything but an Atheist obsessed with Zeitgesit youtube clips.

Anyone who stands against against and becomes a serious threat to the 1 party system or the US military ruling the world and interfering in over 100 countries, anyone who tries to preserve their rights, any one who challenges the merits of the printing press at the federal reserve and creating money out of thin air and gives an actual shit about spending twice as much as we take in on an annual basis will certainly be a racist who is crazy.

Tea stands for Taxed Enough Already, but I already know everything revolves around gay marriage and abortion, so FTW.

[ChrisPond]

PhatScotty.

Des Moines Iowa, April 15th, 2009. The rally was at the State Capital. And yes, there was a little of what I liked...government over spends, taxes are to high, bailouts.

Unfortunately, Iowa had just legalized gay marriage (a ruling was made by our Supreme Court) and that was touched on quite a bit. A minister was one of the speakers and that was all he talked about. There was also a woman speaker from a Pro-Life women's group that spoke about abortion.

Edit: looks like the woman spoke about gay marriage. The minister must have spoken about abortion. See the you tube clip in the next post.

The rally was on tax day and I expected to hear about overspending governments, the debt, and so on. I did not care to hear about the social issues, or have 2 of the presenters spend their time talking about social issues.

[ChrisPond]

had to do a youtube search for you phat scotty. i am having trouble finding the other speakers, especially the minister.

is this what you want to hear at a Tea Party rally on April 15th....also known as Tax Day?





found a summary about the event. http://caffeinatedthoughts.com/2009/04/ ... tea-party/

[DaGip]

I think I saw a UFO behind her!

[notyou2]

Hey, I heard a Democrat say he was proud to be a Socialist. I guess that means all Democrats are socialist?

Hey, I heard a lot of tea party supporters are racist. I guess that makes you a racist.

[oVo]

look how many conflicts President Obama has put us in.

I also think President Bush was a progressive Republican.

How many conflicts has President Obama put us in, and what did President Bush do to make you think of him as a progressive Republican?

[Dukasaur]

look how many conflicts President Obama has put us in.

I also think President Bush was a progressive Republican.

How many conflicts has President Obama put us in, and what did President Bush do to make you think of him as a progressive Republican?

http://www.cato.org/blog/obamas-budget-spending-too-high-bush-was-worse

However, total federal outlays increased substantially faster under President George W. Bush than they have under Obama so far. It is true that Obama’s spending ambitions have been restrained by House Republicans. But looking at the raw data, it appears that the last Republican president was more profligate than the current Democratic one.

[ChrisPond]

Bush:
Grew government and spending considerably
Prescription drugs
Auto bailouts
Nation building
No child left behind
TARP
Economic stimulus
Raised federal minimum wage
patriot act
Homeland security

Sure there is so much more but this is just off the top of my head.


Obamas military conflicts off the top of my head:
Expanded in Iraq and Afghanistan
Libya
Egypt
Increased drone strikes in places like Pakistan
Yemen, Somalia. drones and strikes I believe? Possibly some special forces?
Mali? Just drones there? Or did we do some strikes as well?

[danfrank666]

The more you see the types of people that are joining the Tea Party, the more you really want to distance yourself from these blithering fools. When they claim that they stand for Liberty...whose liberty would that be? The white, Christian, patriarchal population?

Now, all of a sudden, the Tea Baggers are all worried about diseases coming over from Mexico. I LAUGH OUT LOUD! Really??? Diseases??? Criminals??? That's their pathetic excuse to stop innocent human beings from coming over to see family in the United States? Since when did Mexico become the sole bearer of diseases and criminals? Jesus Christ, their ilk makes me want to puke!

The political hijacking of the education system produces this result.

[danfrank666]

look how many conflicts President Obama has put us in.

I also think President Bush was a progressive Republican.

How many conflicts has President Obama put us in, and what did President Bush do to make you think of him as a progressive Republican?

http://www.cato.org/blog/obamas-budget-spending-too-high-bush-was-worse

However, total federal outlays increased substantially faster under President George W. Bush than they have under Obama so far. It is true that Obama’s spending ambitions have been restrained by House Republicans. But looking at the raw data, it appears that the last Republican president was more profligate than the current Democratic one.

Fed policy is to print money , which is not in the budget.

[danfrank666]

I agree with attempting to know the merits of each candidate and essentially voting independently. Because of who is on the ballots I've been close to voting straight Democrat the past two elections. I'm in a "red state" so my impact is local, not national.

Understand it is national and realize the importance of the current administration to filter illegals into red districts.

Also in the last state of union , if i recall correctly, obama is the first president to outline a federal program based on race. I wish i new how to add a vid. It`s all about extra rights. That race also has leaders No other does. Exploited

[ChrisPond]

Just copy and paste the link and someone will fix it for u

[Phatscotty]

The idea of the Tea Party, according to this Tea Bagger, and I have always been consistent in this, is that anyone who is serious about getting our spending under control and check the annual debt levels, anyone who is serious about cutting taxes, anyone who is serious about slowing down the growth of government IE anyone who is a fiscal Conservative has a place in the Tea Party, regardless of social issues. The idea is that people can disagree on things, yet still come together on other things, meaning just because you disagree with someone on abortion doesn't mean they are your enemy so much so that you automatically have to attack everything they ever do or say again regardless if they have a legitimate point or not.

Example: in 2010-2011 the Tea Party in Congress teamed up with the honest Liberals in Congress on passing a bill that would sunset the Patriot Act/take away the automatic renewal of the Patriot Act every year, and they have worked together in other areas a few times to draft and pass legislation that would limit the powers of the NSA/safeguard American's 4th amendment rights. A balanced budget amendment passed as well, just sitting in the Senate. A lot has changed since then, and the Senate has never picked up those bills, as there are hundreds of bills that passed the house sitting in the Senate and the leaders of the Senate simply refuse to bring them to a vote, as well as the president simply ignoring legislation through signing statements and auto-pens and executive orders. Regardless of where one is on the issues, it is a fact that the right and left were working together, that Democrats and Republicans could work together, that we had the same general principles.

I would 100% support any Democrat who made promises and showed evidence in the past that they would/and have voted to handle our fiscal situation in the manner I indicated above which is more responsibly, and I would be okay with all the secondary issues (IMO) like not worrying about where they are on abortion or drug legalization. WHATEVER it takes to address our budget deficit and national debt, WHATEVER it takes to start moving in the direction of a stronger currency, WHATEVER it takes to encourage companies to stay in America and not move overseas because they can save billions doing so. That is just the reality that corporations are not slaves and if we care about our economy and jobs then we should do whatever we can to encourage them to stay, and having the second highest corporate tax rate in the world is a good place to start.

I just opine we are at the point where we have to focus on our priorities, and not let every little thing divide us as a people. United we stand, divided we fall, and right now we are divided as hell, even though a large majority of Americans agree on so many things like the government is not listening to them and does not represent them, that the government is too big, that we spend and waste too much money, corporate welfare should be reduced/stopped, that our system is rife with corruption made contagious by easy money, that we shouldn't have our military active in over 120 countries around the world, that we shouldn't be an empire.

[a6mzero]

I would 100% support any Democrat who made promises and showed evidence in the past that they would vote to handle our fiscal situation in the manner I indicated above, and I would be okay with all the secondary issues (IMO) like not worrying about where they are on abortion or drug legalization.

I just opine we are at the point where we have to focus on our priorities, and not let every little thing divide us as a people. United we stand, divided we fall, and right now we are divided as hell, even though a large majority of Americans agree on so many things like the government is not listening to them and does not represent them, that the government is too big, that we spend and waste too much money, corporate welfare should be reduced/stopped, that our system is rife with corruption, that we shouldn't have our military active in over 120 countries around the world, that we shouldn't be an empire, that our borders are broken.

Here here u finally said something I agree with.

[ChrisPond]

I agree with you Scotty. Unfortunately most of our politicians don't agree with us. I could really care less about social issues as they are nothing compared to the financial issues facing this nation.

[Phatscotty]

Bush:
Grew government and spending considerably
Prescription drugs
Auto bailouts
Nation building
No child left behind
TARP
Economic stimulus
Raised federal minimum wage
patriot act
Homeland security

Sure there is so much more but this is just off the top of my head.


Obamas military conflicts off the top of my head:
Expanded in Iraq and Afghanistan
Libya
Egypt
Increased drone strikes in places like Pakistan
Yemen, Somalia. drones and strikes I believe? Possibly some special forces?
Mali? Just drones there? Or did we do some strikes as well?

Something else to think about: Which of either of these were passed by Congress and which of them were done without even telling Congress?

BTW, according to most TP's I know, Bush was a major problem too. Just because TP criticize Obama doesn't automatically mean they were rah-rah behind Bush; I certainly was not. But the reality is we are farther down the road now than we were 10 years ago. We've already had our credit rating downgraded, we also passed the point where we can no longer make the interest payments on our debt, that's why we are printing money/devaluing our own currency, which is something we said we would never do btw because things could never get that bad.

People might ask when the system is going to crash, the answer may very well be it already did in 2008-2009, and we are living on borrowed time. Once the rest of the world starts officially rejecting the US dollar (as is beginning to happen right now) that's it, it's over. The chickens are coming home to roost. I already know that people who made it a point to NOT understand what is going on and why it happened are going to be the loudest in putting the blame and pointing the finger at this or that, but it's not going to matter. And that will be the time we have to worry about an extreme radical seeking absolute power, and the large majority of citizens are willing to give it to anyone who says they have the answer and can make the pain stop and restore purchasing power to the currency because people's new priority is going to be getting something to eat, and the executive branch has gained so much power and authorized itself to do so much and has gotten away with everything else in the past that Congress and even the Constitution will be completely irrelevant.

It's Weimar Republic time, and history is already repeating itself in so many ways.

[ChrisPond]

Might want to install a pond while u still can. I have 8000 gallons of water in my backyard...