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Re: U.S. Election (2014 version)

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:08 am

notyou2 wrote:Due to the strong influence in government, economy, and culture, should Canadians have a vote in US politics?


I don't think you can vote the tarsands or the Loonie back to life.

ChrisPond wrote:never voted for a dead person before


Which is ironic, as plenty of dead persons have voted.
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Re: U.S. Election (2014 version)

Postby Metsfanmax on Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:17 am

tzor wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:You live out in the fourth district right? I'm thoroughly amused that Newsday endorsed Rice in your district and Zeldin in mine.


No. I'm in your district actually. :(

I like the Newsday ( :sick: getting a little ill giving good thoughts to that rag :sick: ) endorsement, but really, if your endorsement is based on "vote for X because his party is in the majority" it's not exactly a ringing one. But then again, that's what I expect from Newsday.


I am having a hard time dealing with the election outcome. When Lee Zeldin came out to Stony Brook for his debate with Bishop, this was his campaign bus:

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"A fresh prospective." Seriously.
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Re: U.S. Election (2014 version)

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:22 am

X-it

http://graphics.wsj.com/exit-polls-2014/

Union Members
Republican: 38%
Democrat: 59%

Univ. Graduates
Republican: 50%
Democrat: 48%

Hispanic
Republican: 35%
Democrat: 63%

Income $100K+
Republican: 57%
Democrat: 42%

Income $50K-
Republican: 43%
Democrat: 55%
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Re: U.S. Election (2014 version)

Postby tzor on Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:38 pm

notyou2 wrote:We could send you Harper. He is not very well liked here, and he is a snake.


Wait a second. You may be on to something. Stephen Harper and Eleanor Holmes Norton (the only non voting member of congress).

It might make a good sitcom; or even reality TV. Here is one of her best quotes ...

ā€œYou don't have a right to know everything in a separation-of-powers government, my friend. That is the difference between a parliamentary government and a separation-of-powers government.ā€

Can Stephen compete with such brilliance?

Another example of American Exceptionalism... exceptionally stupid that is.
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Re: U.S. Election (2014 version)

Postby Dukasaur on Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:49 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:
tzor wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:You live out in the fourth district right? I'm thoroughly amused that Newsday endorsed Rice in your district and Zeldin in mine.


No. I'm in your district actually. :(

I like the Newsday ( :sick: getting a little ill giving good thoughts to that rag :sick: ) endorsement, but really, if your endorsement is based on "vote for X because his party is in the majority" it's not exactly a ringing one. But then again, that's what I expect from Newsday.


I am having a hard time dealing with the election outcome. When Lee Zeldin came out to Stony Brook for his debate with Bishop, this was his campaign bus:

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"A fresh prospective." Seriously.

I don't get it.

Is that camouflage, and you're saying he's an extreme pro-war right winger?

Or is it some kind of Paisley, and you're saying he's a left-wing hippie?

I suppose i could Google the guy and find out what he is, but it would be more interesting to hear your explanation.
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Re: U.S. Election (2014 version)

Postby notyou2 on Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:26 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
tzor wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:You live out in the fourth district right? I'm thoroughly amused that Newsday endorsed Rice in your district and Zeldin in mine.


No. I'm in your district actually. :(

I like the Newsday ( :sick: getting a little ill giving good thoughts to that rag :sick: ) endorsement, but really, if your endorsement is based on "vote for X because his party is in the majority" it's not exactly a ringing one. But then again, that's what I expect from Newsday.


I am having a hard time dealing with the election outcome. When Lee Zeldin came out to Stony Brook for his debate with Bishop, this was his campaign bus:

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"A fresh prospective." Seriously.

I don't get it.

Is that camouflage, and you're saying he's an extreme pro-war right winger?

Or is it some kind of Paisley, and you're saying he's a left-wing hippie?

I suppose i could Google the guy and find out what he is, but it would be more interesting to hear your explanation.


A fresh "prospective"???? I think he means perspective, unless he considers his constituents prospects, which in all likelihood he does.

Tzor, did you vote for this guy?
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Re: U.S. Election (2014 version)

Postby DoomYoshi on Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:52 pm

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Re: U.S. Election (2014 version)

Postby Metsfanmax on Thu Nov 06, 2014 12:13 am

Dukasaur wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
tzor wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:You live out in the fourth district right? I'm thoroughly amused that Newsday endorsed Rice in your district and Zeldin in mine.


No. I'm in your district actually. :(

I like the Newsday ( :sick: getting a little ill giving good thoughts to that rag :sick: ) endorsement, but really, if your endorsement is based on "vote for X because his party is in the majority" it's not exactly a ringing one. But then again, that's what I expect from Newsday.


I am having a hard time dealing with the election outcome. When Lee Zeldin came out to Stony Brook for his debate with Bishop, this was his campaign bus:

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"A fresh prospective." Seriously.

I don't get it.

Is that camouflage, and you're saying he's an extreme pro-war right winger?

Or is it some kind of Paisley, and you're saying he's a left-wing hippie?

I suppose i could Google the guy and find out what he is, but it would be more interesting to hear your explanation.


It is camouflage. The guy is a veteran and I think served in Afghanistan, but that doesn't explain why his campaign bus is camouflaged.

But yeah, notyou2 got what I was commenting on.
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Re: U.S. Election (2014 version)

Postby Dukasaur on Thu Nov 06, 2014 12:18 am

Ah, okay.

Well, maybe it's a deliberate pun. "Pro"spective, as in "pro" this and "pro" that.
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Re: U.S. Election (2014 version)

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:47 am

Metsfanmax wrote:
tzor wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:You live out in the fourth district right? I'm thoroughly amused that Newsday endorsed Rice in your district and Zeldin in mine.


No. I'm in your district actually. :(

I like the Newsday ( :sick: getting a little ill giving good thoughts to that rag :sick: ) endorsement, but really, if your endorsement is based on "vote for X because his party is in the majority" it's not exactly a ringing one. But then again, that's what I expect from Newsday.


I am having a hard time dealing with the election outcome.

"A fresh prospective." Seriously.


Yes, seriously. All we have had is gridlock and hate speech back n forth from one party to the other. Everything the House has passed is sitting on a desk in the Senate, Things the Senate has passed are rubber stamped by the White House and totally ignoring the House of Reps. Nothing has gotten done in the last 4 years, and in the last 6 years Democrats have had virtually all of the power. This new perspective means to me that dividing the power is checking the power and hopefully balancing the power, which is the way America is supposed to be. We are not supposed to be ruled by 51% majorities, passing gargantuan health care bills along party lines 51-49, 52-48, nor should we want to be having our party forcing what we want down everyone elses throats whether they like it or not.

Now, Republicans have Congress and may very well be able to force the President to compromise, and Congress will no doubt have to compromise, but at least we can finally move forward. I think you may just have a hard time dealing with the country you live in, and that there are hundreds of millions of people with an equal vote as you who have different priorities than you and disagree with you about things, and you disagree with them. It's the Democratic process, you can't just like it only when it goes your way.
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Re: U.S. Election (2014 version)

Postby notyou2 on Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:58 am

The US system takes compromise, of which the republicans were unwilling to do so, which made the democrats dig in.

Your system is constipated when divided. Get a giant Ex-lax and expunge them all.
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Re: U.S. Election (2014 version)

Postby Metsfanmax on Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:25 am

Phatscotty wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
tzor wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:You live out in the fourth district right? I'm thoroughly amused that Newsday endorsed Rice in your district and Zeldin in mine.


No. I'm in your district actually. :(

I like the Newsday ( :sick: getting a little ill giving good thoughts to that rag :sick: ) endorsement, but really, if your endorsement is based on "vote for X because his party is in the majority" it's not exactly a ringing one. But then again, that's what I expect from Newsday.


I am having a hard time dealing with the election outcome.

"A fresh prospective." Seriously.


Yes, seriously. All we have had is gridlock and hate speech back n forth from one party to the other. Everything the House has passed is sitting on a desk in the Senate, Things the Senate has passed are rubber stamped by the White House and totally ignoring the House of Reps. Nothing has gotten done in the last 4 years, and in the last 6 years Democrats have had virtually all of the power. This new perspective means to me that dividing the power is checking the power and hopefully balancing the power, which is the way America is supposed to be. We are not supposed to be ruled by 51% majorities, passing gargantuan health care bills along party lines 51-49, 52-48, nor should we want to be having our party forcing what we want down everyone elses throats whether they like it or not.

Now, Republicans have Congress and may very well be able to force the President to compromise, and Congress will no doubt have to compromise, but at least we can finally move forward. I think you may just have a hard time dealing with the country you live in, and that there are hundreds of millions of people with an equal vote as you who have different priorities than you and disagree with you about things, and you disagree with them. It's the Democratic process, you can't just like it only when it goes your way.


Hey Phatscotty, I know you like seeing yourself post, but shut up. I wasn't commenting on the content of the message, I was commenting on the fact that he clearly meant "perspective" and instead mis-used the word "prospective." There's a reason I'm done responding to things you post, and I hope you'll return the same courtesy.

I don't really have a problem with the nationwide election outcome. I'm going to work even harder than I was before on climate change now that my district is led by a Republican, but that's just what citizenship is about.
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Re: U.S. Election (2014 version)

Postby tzor on Thu Nov 06, 2014 11:02 am

Dukasaur wrote:I don't get it.

Is that camouflage, and you're saying he's an extreme pro-war right winger?

Or is it some kind of Paisley, and you're saying he's a left-wing hippie?

I suppose i could Google the guy and find out what he is, but it would be more interesting to hear your explanation.


He is an ex Iraqi War veteran and still active in the Reserves.
One of his major campaign signs said "Vote for a Vet."
He also argued that the veteran population of congress was at an all time low.

I wouldn't call him an "extreme pro-war" since most people who actually get involved in wars tend not to be "extreme" about it.
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Re: U.S. Election (2014 version)

Postby DoomYoshi on Thu Nov 06, 2014 5:39 pm

Do the tv stations play Mr. Smith Goes to Washington every election day?

They should.
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Re: U.S. Election (2014 version)

Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:16 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:Do the tv stations play Mr. Smith Goes to Washington every election day?

They should.

I don't think so. But I think about Jimmy Stewart films regularly.


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Re: U.S. Election (2014 version)

Postby BigBallinStalin on Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:40 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:Do the tv stations play Mr. Smith Goes to Washington every election day?

They should.


Bad idea. People will get so bored with the 1939 film that they'll go out and vote.
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Re: U.S. Election (2014 version)

Postby DoomYoshi on Fri Nov 07, 2014 8:51 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Do the tv stations play Mr. Smith Goes to Washington every election day?

They should.


Bad idea. People will get so bored with the 1939 film that they'll go out and vote.


That's the point. Citizens can take power, if the movie is to be believed.
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Re: U.S. Election (2014 version)

Postby BigBallinStalin on Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:37 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:
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DoomYoshi wrote:Do the tv stations play Mr. Smith Goes to Washington every election day?

They should.


Bad idea. People will get so bored with the 1939 film that they'll go out and vote.


That's the point. Citizens can take power, if the movie is to be believed.


A bunch of emotionally charged people paying practically zero price to pick some lying asshole over another lying asshole is not a sensible objective to pursue. Was the film about that?
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Re: U.S. Election (2014 version)

Postby Phatscotty on Sat Nov 08, 2014 4:37 am

We don't always have to choose only from 2 lying assholes. We can upset the established order in the primaries and elevate a poor person (relatively) who is not owned by corporations and special interests over the top and doesn't owe favors that end up selling out the very people who voted them into power. All we have to do is get each person get 3 people to register to vote, and then vote.

It has happened before, right here in my state, in my city. I was part of it, I lived it! And it's gonna happen again!

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Re: U.S. Election (2014 version)

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sat Nov 08, 2014 2:28 pm

Phatscotty wrote:We don't always have to choose only from 2 lying assholes. We can upset the established order in the primaries and elevate a poor person (relatively) who is not owned by corporations and special interests over the top and doesn't owe favors that end up selling out the very people who voted them into power. All we have to do is get each person get 3 people to register to vote, and then vote.

It has happened before, right here in my state, in my city. I was part of it, I lived it! And it's gonna happen again!



You're a moron.
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Re: U.S. Election (2014 version)

Postby oVo on Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:39 pm

A few billion dollars spent on TV attack ads
convince America that times are tough
and it's Obama's fault.

Ignore human rights, the economy, jobs & wall street.
Results: another bi-annual mid term election flip flop

If you don't contribute 100 million dollars to a campaign,
then you aren't actually participating in the process.
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Re: U.S. Election (2014 version)

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:50 pm

oVo wrote:A few billion dollars spent on TV attack ads
convince America that times are tough
and it's Obama's fault.

Ignore human rights


lol
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Re: U.S. Election (2014 version)

Postby tzor on Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:52 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:Bad idea. People will get so bored with the 1939 film that they'll go out and vote.


Good news: If the only reason you are voting is that you are bored with what is on TV, odds are you don't even know where your polling place is.
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Re: U.S. Election (2014 version)

Postby tzor on Tue Nov 11, 2014 1:01 pm

oVo wrote:A few billion dollars spent on TV attack ads
convince America that times are tough
and it's Obama's fault.


Strange most of the ads I saw was how the "other guy" was a sleazebag.

oVo wrote:Ignore human rights, the economy, jobs & wall street.
Results: another bi-annual mid term election flip flop


Human rights? Yes that's a laugh.

The economy: Lowest worker participation rate since ... forever.

(OK since the late 70's the Age of Disco, whatever. Don't make me start playing "A Fifth of Beethoven.")

You realize that the only reason Wall Street isn't in the tank is because the Fed keeps pumping money into the system.

oVo wrote:If you don't contribute 100 million dollars to a campaign,
then you aren't actually participating in the process.


All the door to door walking I did for primaries and the general election campaign helped get my candidate in Congress.

What's YOUR EXCUSE.
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Re: U.S. Election (2014 version)

Postby notyou2 on Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:28 am

Americans sure do know how to make each other look like sleaze bags. It's like an innate ability you have.

Is it a high school course?
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