Congratulations to the People of Catalonia

[DoomYoshi]

For a successful, although illegal, referendum for Independence.

I support Catalonia independence since they have kept their Occitan language alive (unlike the traitorous Provencals).

[betiko]

Shut up! My grandma still uses a lot of expressions in provençal! But catalan sounds like 80% spanish 20% french, provençal sounds like 80% french 20% italian. Catalan is an occitan language?
Around Nice older people speak a bit the regional language, which is like 80% italian 20% french.
In corsica they absolutely speak corsican! Which is like 90% italian 10% french. That dialect is absolutely not dead/dying unlike provençal and niçard.
We have the bretons that are starting to become pretty hard core about reintroducing the breton language, the young people speak it now. This is a celtic language, nothing to do with anything latin. In Spain, galicia is celtic but their language there is nothing celtic, it s like 60% portuguese 40% spanish, so probably nothing to do with their celtic roots.
The very odd thing about all this is basque country (both in france and spain). That language is absolutely unique. It is said that it probably has common roots with hungarian and finish (suomi)

[betiko]

Just wiki checked it; looks like there is a small valley in catalunia where they indeed speak an occitan language. But catalan isn t an occitan language.

[DoomYoshi]

Just wiki checked it; looks like there is a small valley in catalunia where they indeed speak an occitan language. But catalan isn t an occitan language.

They are close enough. Occitan specifically is an official language of Catalonia and Catalonian is the closest relative (within the Romance languages) to Occitan.

[BigBallinStalin]

Just wiki checked it; looks like there is a small valley in catalunia where they indeed speak an occitan language. But catalan isn t an occitan language.

They are close enough. Occitan specifically is an official language of Catalonia and Catalonian is the closest relative (within the Romance languages) to Occitan.

You know what? Y'all are both wrong, so shut up. The Catalonians will be victorious--if only it wasn't for those gay rights activists allying with Catholic majority--some of whom have sexually assaulted the major's son. The judge's decision has yet to be rendered.

[mrswdk]

United we stand, divided we fall. I forget who said this but separatists who try to hold a country to ransom would do well to remember this saying.

[BigBallinStalin]

United we stand, divided we fall. I forget who said this but separatists who try to hold a country to ransom would do well to remember this saying.

Or, "united, the separatists will further fall under stupid policies from the national government." I'm working on making it catchier, but at least it's true.

[AndyDufresne]

United we stand, divided we fall. I forget who said this but separatists who try to hold a country to ransom would do well to remember this saying.

Or, "united, the separatists will further fall under stupid policies from the national government." I'm working on making it catchier, but at least it's true.

Try this on for size:




--Andy

[DoomYoshi]

The government should be deleted.

[betiko]

Just wiki checked it; looks like there is a small valley in catalunia where they indeed speak an occitan language. But catalan isn t an occitan language.

They are close enough. Occitan specifically is an official language of Catalonia and Catalonian is the closest relative (within the Romance languages) to Occitan.

It s an official language in the valle d aosta too and other italian alps regions. Catalonian is not the closest relative to occitan since it s closer to spanish than french. Actual french is closer to occitan than catalonian. Anyway, Occitania has never been a political reality, just a cultural one, and the occitan spoken from the atlantic southern france to the mediterranean southern france and the italian alps was pretty different. It s a sum of dialects very close one from the other, but each one with its influences (northern france language, basque, spanish and derivatives, italian and derivatives). France erradicated the occitan in the middle ages to unify the country language, and occitan became prohibited. It has still lived orally ever since but never taught at school.

[BigBallinStalin]

The government should be deleted.

About time we've got some sense from you!

[Dukasaur]

The government should be deleted.