Congratulations to the people of America

[mrswdk]

Anti-establishment riots all over America, the people standing up for their rights in the face of their repressive government, American Spring, time for sanctions and a no-fly zone??

[riskllama]

hahaha...
*british accent* spot on, spot on.

[BigBallinStalin]

Haha, I like how "standing up for their rights" = "burning and looting the property of innocent people."

[Gweeedo]

Let the games begin!

[Phatscotty]

Haha, I like how "standing up for their rights" = "burning and looting the property of innocent people."

He meant to say standing up against rights. Venting manipulated emotions based on false narrative is not a right.... yet, but boy oh boy it sure can be made to look like a human right! I don't blame you all the way Mrs, our race-baiting racist media still gets the blame.

Congrats!!! Those who harmed a violent criminal have been dealt justice!

[Phatscotty]

Anti-establishment riots all over America, the people standing up for their rights in the face of their repressive government, American Spring, time for sanctions and a no-fly zone??

[mrswdk]

Haha, I like how "standing up for their rights" = "burning and looting the property of innocent people."

Unfortunately for the shop owners, the protestors have very few avenues available to them:

1 - state-sanctioned means of redress (state refused to cooperate)
2 - pressure the state with peaceful campaigns (ignored by the state)
3 - pressure the state by targeting the police (tantamount to suicide when the police force are armed like Navy SEALS)
4 - pressure the state by targeting civilians and/or civilian property (only viable option remaining)

[saxitoxin]

Anti-establishment riots all over America, the people standing up for their rights in the face of their repressive government, American Spring, time for sanctions and a no-fly zone??

Que?

WASHINGTON (February 20) – Vice President Joe Biden and Attorney General Eric Holder today awarded the Public Safety Officer Medal of Valor to 18 public safety officers who exhibited exceptional courage in saving and protecting others and whose heroic actions were above and beyond the call of duty.

Including today’s awardees, a total of 78 medals have been presented since the first recipients were honored in 2003.
https://www.bja.gov/Events/MOV_PR_02-20-13.pdf

That's 25% of all of the medals given out in just 1 of the 12 years!

The Public Safety Officer Medal of Valor is the highest decoration for bravery exhibited by public safety officers in the United States, comparable to the military's Medal of Honor. The original Medal of Valor was established on June 29, 2000 by President Bill Clinton with his issuance of Executive Order 13161 and was originally called the Presidential Medal of Valor for Public Safety Officers. Before the establishment of the Medal of Valor, there were no Federal awards to specifically acknowledge the bravery performed by public safety officers throughout the United States; police and firefighting departments typically award their members medals at a state or local government level. The establishment of the Medal of Valor filled a void in the civilian decorations system of the United States.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:S ... alor&go=Go

Public Safety Medal of Valor



(next highest decoration) Law Enforcement Badge of Bravery

[betiko]

while there is a real problem with law enforcement forces in the US (trigger happy, abuse of authority, paranoia) it's not an excuse to go on joy rides and loot all you can in sign of protest. f*ck them all.

[mrswdk]

lol, 'Public Safety Officer'.

[Phatscotty]

the pic is about funerals and deaths. it's not sayin police haven't gotten awards. If i wanted to make the point in my own words, I would say it's sad that this year so far 76 police officers have been killed in the line of duty and nobody really knows their names or their stories, but people all around the world know the names Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin.

Dillon Taylor

Chief Burbank said the officer who killed Taylor was not white, but he didn’t elaborate further.

“Officers should be held to extremely high standards, but that cannot be an impossible standard,” he added.

Taylor’s supporters say his death hasn’t received enough media attention.

“We want answers — we need them,” Aaron Swanenberg, a longtime friend of Taylor, told The New York Times.

Taylor, who is white, was reportedly unarmed when he was shot two times near a 7-Eleven on Aug. 11 after a confrontation with police officers.

The Salt Lake City police chief addressed criticism and the militarization of police in the wake of Taylor’s death.

“The officer involved in this circumstance had a camera on his body, and the entire incident has been captured,” said Chief Chris Burbank, the Epoch Times reported.

Family and friends of Dillon Taylor say they will continue to hold protests outside state and federal government offices until the authorities answer questions about the shooting, The New York Times reported.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... z3N0HmzgHW
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

[Phatscotty]

This one also makes the point. Look at the attention media and academia pay to the violent criminal.

"St. Paul Superintendent Valeria Silva wrote this on Twitter after the grand jury decision in Ferguson: "No indictment for officer Wilson! Very sad day in America. How do I explain this to my black students?"

Dear Valeria Silva,

First, besides epically failing to teach 'your black students' the basics of the primary reason you have students and are a 'teacher' in the first place...explain to your students that for every 1 black person police shoot, 4 white people are shot by police. Second, explain to your students that cops are virtually never indicted when they shoot white people either. Third, apologize to your students for race-baiting them, stoking animosity, and manipulating their emotions based on false narratives that actually outs you as the ignorant racist. Last, immediately resign from 'teaching'!

[BigBallinStalin]

Haha, I like how "standing up for their rights" = "burning and looting the property of innocent people."

Unfortunately for the shop owners, the protestors have very few avenues available to them:

1 - state-sanctioned means of redress (state refused to cooperate)
2 - pressure the state with peaceful campaigns (ignored by the state)
3 - pressure the state by targeting the police (tantamount to suicide when the police force are armed like Navy SEALS)
4 - pressure the state by targeting civilians and/or civilian property (only viable option remaining)

1. Assume nothing else will work.
2. Therefore, make lame excuses.

Sure, the Ferguson police exacerbated the situation (overall), and the ongoing militarization of police and the default of using force aggressively needs to be ended. As more white people and politicians become increasingly directly affected by the shenanigans of the police, we'll get that necessary change (some time in the future, unfortunately).

Still doesn't excuse destroying people's property. It actually makes them ('the mob') look worse. inb4: they're terrorists.

[shickingbrits]

PS,

Aren't all the deaths tragic: cops, minor criminals, and people shopping at Walmart?

If they are all tragic, then why when it happens to one group does everyone expect retribution, but when that same group creates the tragedy, people have come to expect nothing?

The laws are lopsided and there is no recourse.

[Gweeedo]

(next highest decoration) Law Enforcement Badge of Bravery

[/quote]

The Iron Cross.

[shickingbrits]

Haha, I like how "standing up for their rights" = "burning and looting the property of innocent people."

Unfortunately for the shop owners, the protestors have very few avenues available to them:

1 - state-sanctioned means of redress (state refused to cooperate)
2 - pressure the state with peaceful campaigns (ignored by the state)
3 - pressure the state by targeting the police (tantamount to suicide when the police force are armed like Navy SEALS)
4 - pressure the state by targeting civilians and/or civilian property (only viable option remaining)

1. Assume nothing else will work.
2. Therefore, make lame excuses.

Sure, the Ferguson police exacerbated the situation (overall), and the ongoing militarization of police and the default of using force aggressively needs to be ended. As more white people and politicians become increasingly directly affected by the shenanigans of the police, we'll get that necessary change (some time in the future, unfortunately).

Still doesn't excuse destroying people's property. It actually makes them ('the mob') look worse. inb4: they're terrorists.

1. Assume we'll get that necessary change when everything points in the opposite direction
2. Ignore history

I'll reply for you.

BBS wrote:

The militarization of police was an unintended consequence. The deployment of military grade equipment by the police is an unintended consequence. The skewed laws are an unintended consequence. Being shot by the police is a voluntary choice. Voters matter because they have a social contract which they can enforce through openly democratic elections.

Those angered by the governments actions could have done blank or blank instead of displaying social unrest.

[betiko]

PS,

Aren't all the deaths tragic: cops, minor criminals, and people shopping at Walmart?

If they are all tragic, then why when it happens to one group does everyone expect retribution, but when that same group creates the tragedy, people have come to expect nothing?

The laws are lopsided and there is no recourse.

Exactly. The fact that the media emphocize the ethnic group of criminals/cops is just plain stupid and only causes tensions. I don't see why the ethnic groups should ever be mentioned; by continually repeating these stuff this is what causes ethnic groups to feel threatened by another and all the stupid shit that happens next. All these statistics are due to social class, not genetics or anything similar. The fact that cops die is not an excuse to retaliate on citizens, and the fact that citizens die is not an excuse to retaliate on cops.

It's pretty funny when you think of the OJ simpson trial, how this became something about black vs white people. The guy was guilt as shit and yet black people thought justice had been made through this farce. Justice is not about compensating ffs. If OJ simpson had been white and his wife black, then black people would've started riots if the same decision had been taken.
People should just stop being so plain stupid and think they are part of something just because they share the same skin colour; they are just participating in this whole dumb shit called racism that goes both ways.

[BigBallinStalin]

Haha, I like how "standing up for their rights" = "burning and looting the property of innocent people."

Unfortunately for the shop owners, the protestors have very few avenues available to them:

1 - state-sanctioned means of redress (state refused to cooperate)
2 - pressure the state with peaceful campaigns (ignored by the state)
3 - pressure the state by targeting the police (tantamount to suicide when the police force are armed like Navy SEALS)
4 - pressure the state by targeting civilians and/or civilian property (only viable option remaining)

1. Assume nothing else will work.
2. Therefore, make lame excuses.

Sure, the Ferguson police exacerbated the situation (overall), and the ongoing militarization of police and the default of using force aggressively needs to be ended. As more white people and politicians become increasingly directly affected by the shenanigans of the police, we'll get that necessary change (some time in the future, unfortunately).

Still doesn't excuse destroying people's property. It actually makes them ('the mob') look worse. inb4: they're terrorists.

1. Assume we'll get that necessary change when everything points in the opposite direction
2. Ignore history

I'll reply for you.

BBS wrote:

The militarization of police was an unintended consequence. The deployment of military grade equipment by the police is an unintended consequence. The skewed laws are an unintended consequence. Being shot by the police is a voluntary choice. Voters matter because they have a social contract which they can enforce through openly democratic elections.

Those angered by the governments actions could have done blank or blank instead of displaying social unrest.

Great example of a straw man fallacy, sabotage.

Ever since I asked you to demonstrate how your "natural earth cycle" will lower temperature by 9C, you increasingly relied on crap arguments. Keep that trend rolling'!

[shickingbrits]

It's not my fault if you can't read a graph.

But because you can't, I don't think I have the ability to walk you through it. If you could say something, like that graph seems to have temperatures that reach a peak and then plummet for extended periods getting 9 C colder, then I'd say, that's quite observant. I wouldn't mean that that is really quite observant, it's utterly obvious, but I would want you to feel some degree of praise for accomplishing what most elementary school children could do without guidance.

[BigBallinStalin]

It's not my fault if you can't read a graph.

But because you can't, I don't think I have the ability to walk you through it. If you could say something, like that graph seems to have temperatures that reach a peak and then plummet for extended periods getting 9 C colder, then I'd say, that's quite observant. I wouldn't mean that that is really quite observant, it's utterly obvious, but I would want you to feel some degree of praise for accomplishing what most elementary school children could do without guidance.

Which graphs showed that the "natural earth cycle" causes temperatures to fall by 9C within an unspecified amount of time?

Surely, it's easier to copy-paste one graph instead launching into logical fallacies and documentary-length monologues about your self-perceived awesomeness.

[shickingbrits]

Maybe the graph I posted when making the comment.

[GoranZ]

Riots are spreading around US... Protests in Oakland, situation is boiling up in San Francisco and LA.

Is this the beginning of the end of American "Democracy"?

[Phatscotty]

PS,

Aren't all the deaths tragic: cops, minor criminals, and people shopping at Walmart?

If they are all tragic, then why when it happens to one group does everyone expect retribution, but when that same group creates the tragedy, people have come to expect nothing?

The laws are lopsided and there is no recourse.

How can they all be tragic? Perhaps when you account for at least 1 individual to whom it may be 'tragic' but you have to grant at minimum that at least 1 death of them all was justified? I mean in reality there are a few people who were shot by police while in the process of committing a mass shooting, or just about to commit a mass shooting, or had just finished a mass shooting. Like that religious guy in Oklahoma I think, who beheaded his co-worker for speaking positively about women's rights/negatively about Islam....no I do not think his death was tragic.

But yes you are onto something as well, in that our media IE what everyone hears repeated over and over again, there is a certain tone when it happens to one group/race, and no tone at all when it happens to another group/race. Not that the law is perfect, it never has been and probably never will be, but for certain our media is lopsided in prefers touting their personal political narratives/race preferences over truth.

[Phatscotty]

PS,

Aren't all the deaths tragic: cops, minor criminals, and people shopping at Walmart?

If they are all tragic, then why when it happens to one group does everyone expect retribution, but when that same group creates the tragedy, people have come to expect nothing?

The laws are lopsided and there is no recourse.

Exactly. The fact that the media emphocize the ethnic group of criminals/cops is just plain stupid and only causes tensions. I don't see why the ethnic groups should ever be mentioned; by continually repeating these stuff this is what causes ethnic groups to feel threatened by another and all the stupid shit that happens next. All these statistics are due to social class, not genetics or anything similar. The fact that cops die is not an excuse to retaliate on citizens, and the fact that citizens die is not an excuse to retaliate on cops.

It's pretty funny when you think of the OJ simpson trial, how this became something about black vs white people. The guy was guilt as shit and yet black people thought justice had been made through this farce. Justice is not about compensating ffs. If OJ simpson had been white and his wife black, then black people would've started riots if the same decision had been taken.
People should just stop being so plain stupid and think they are part of something just because they share the same skin colour; they are just participating in this whole dumb shit called racism that goes both ways.

Crap, screwed up a response, but anyways, YEAH POST OF THE YEAR! You hit it square on the head.

Just one thing tho, you are mixing up justices. It's 'social' justice that made black people feel like they won something by OJ getting away scott-free with cold-blooded murder. That is supposedly 'progress'. I think people are starting to realize more and more how that has been perverted.

[shickingbrits]

That's why I said minor criminals.

For an ordered society, we need to treat people fairly, with respect and with clear consequences, the ramifications of which are built into the establishment of the consequence.

If we know that a legal system is going to lead to both more criminals and more dangerous criminals, then we should probably look at a way around that. Our legal system is expensive, skewed towards the wealthy and has terrible outcomes.

For mass murderers and serial killers, I think they should be executed soon after they are found guilty, and that their trial should not take years. On the other hand, if guys are being summarily executed for not submitting fast enough to state authority, then the whole point of a legal system is nullified.