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Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:13 am

A popular cyber-insurgent group called Guardians of Peace, aligned with the people of Korea (DPRK), have released a variety of emails from Sony fat cats. In one exchange, the fat cats trade racist jokes about Barack Obama while en route to a $10,000/plate fundraiser for him.

“What should I ask the president at this stupid Jeffrey breakfast?" Pascal wrote, according to Buzzfeed.

“Would he like to finance some movies,” replied Rudin, the Oscar-winning producer of “No Country for Old Men.”

“I doubt it,” Pascal, the co-chair of Sony Pictures Entertainment, replied. “Should I ask him if he liked DJANGO?”

“12 YEARS,” Rudin fired back, referring to the slave movie that nabbed the Best Picture Oscar last year.

Rudin and Pascal continued exchanging emails in the same vein, trading titles of popular movies starring black actors like “The Butler.”

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainmen ... -1.2041618


The embarrassed fat cats are now calling for war to protect Sony Corp. Howard Stern has said “This attack is no different than a 9/11-type attack. They stole this material. It’s outrageous. The president should have announced immediately we’re under attack."
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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby thegreekdog on Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:45 am

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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby _sabotage_ on Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:45 am

You think Sony hacked itself?
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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby rishaed on Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:51 am

thegreekdog wrote:Uncle Saxi - Is it bad that I don't care about this?
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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:19 am

thegreekdog wrote:Uncle Saxi - Is it bad that I don't care about this?

But we now know that Sony wants to do a 21 jumpstreet an men in black crossover!?!


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Postby Dukasaur on Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:31 am

Why isn't "All of the Above" listed?
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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:35 am

And now this :lol: :lol: :lol: =D> =D> =D> -

Guardians of Peace announced that more leaks were on the way, but said it would not release additional emails between employees if they ask to be excluded.

"This is a taunt," Robert Neivert, COO of Private.me, told Benzinga. "I feel they're taunting them. This is a bunch of people literally laughing, saying, 'Oh my gosh, look at what we can make them do! We can make them dance in tutus in public.'"

Neivert compared Guardians of Peace's gesture to that of a mob boss that is forcing others to kiss his feet.

http://www.benzinga.com/top-stories/14/ ... icker_page


Shares of Sony have dropped nearly 10% in the last two weeks since the Guardians of Peace started releasing Sony shit. How long until James Franco ends up homeless and Dave has to do gay porn to pay his rent?

Are these right-wing fat cats ever going to learn? :roll:
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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:13 pm

Guardians of Peace - Stay Away from Theaters Screening The Interview

"Soon all the world will see what an awful movie Sony Pictures Entertainment has made. The world will be full of fear."

The message warned people to stay away from places where The Interview will be shown and to leave their homes if they live near theatres screening the film.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/sony-hacker ... 17?cmp=rss
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Postby Army of GOD on Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:47 pm

Do these leaks include Natasie Portman nudes?
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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby _sabotage_ on Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:27 am

It's amazing how good the NK hackers are. NK can't even make a decent website, and the football team only had a single uniform for the world cup, but they got grade A hackers that seemingly are untraceable.

I don't think Sony will lose any money from the hack. They may even make a little off the free advertising. Pirated movies are available soon after the release and sometimes before. I remember X-men Origins, Wolverine was released still with some green screen prior to the theatre release. It still opened #1 at the box office and made $400m in the theathers. Had double the DVD sales of X-men First Class. The emails and salaries? Nothing impressive.

But the language, ah that's great. "The world will be full of fear." Did the government use one of their pre-teen hackers to write this? Maybe it was getting near his bedtime so he said f*ck it and hit send.
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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby thegreekdog on Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:49 am

saxitoxin wrote:Guardians of Peace - Stay Away from Theaters Screening The Interview

"Soon all the world will see what an awful movie Sony Pictures Entertainment has made. The world will be full of fear."

The message warned people to stay away from places where The Interview will be shown and to leave their homes if they live near theatres screening the film.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/sony-hacker ... 17?cmp=rss


Would we be offended if someone made a comedy about trying to kill our president?

Oh wait...

Aliens - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116629/ and http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116996/
Vampires - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1611224/
Terrorists - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2302755/ and http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118571/ and http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2334879/

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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:32 pm

LOL $44 million down the drain :lol: :lol: :lol: ...

"In light of the decision by the majority of our exhibitors not to show the film "The Interview," we have decided not to move forward with the planned December 25 theatrical release," Sony said in its first statement on the matter.

http://money.cnn.com/2014/12/17/media/t ... ?hpt=hp_t2



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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:32 pm

ITT, saxi praises the threat of violence against cinema.

Bold stance, sax.
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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby thegreekdog on Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:46 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:ITT, saxi praises the threat of violence against cinema.

Bold stance, sax.


Shit, it appears that the threat of violence against cinema works. I'm not going to bust Saxi's chops because he's backing a winner.
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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:16 pm

thegreekdog wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:ITT, saxi praises the threat of violence against cinema.

Bold stance, sax.


Shit, it appears that the threat of violence against cinema works. I'm not going to bust Saxi's chops because he's backing a winner.


Yeah, cuz like, f*ck peaceful exchange. I hear ya, dawg.
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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby DaGip on Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:43 pm

saxitoxin wrote:LOL $44 million down the drain :lol: :lol: :lol: ...

"In light of the decision by the majority of our exhibitors not to show the film "The Interview," we have decided not to move forward with the planned December 25 theatrical release," Sony said in its first statement on the matter.

http://money.cnn.com/2014/12/17/media/t ... ?hpt=hp_t2



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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:32 am

Based on the trailers I saw of The Interview, it appears to be a film designed to perpetuate and enforce false negative stereotyping. In doing so it greases the wheels of the U.S.' rambling war machine for some potential future conflict on the Korean Peninsula. There is an acclimated cultural acceptability in the west of war against DPRK and movies like this one can only serve to increase this cultural acceptability.

The bold action of the Guardians of Peace activist group to provide an incentive to major theater chains to drop this film may have saved many lives. This type of strategy is explained in the lyrics to the DPRK march "Peace is on our Bayonet."



Once again we see progressive pro-peace forces have made fools out of the reactionary right-wing fat cats.
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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby Metsfanmax on Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:06 am

saxitoxin wrote:Based on the trailers I saw of The Interview, it appears to be a film designed to perpetuate and enforce false negative stereotyping.


It may be false, but is it really negative? I mean, whenever we do hear a headline regarding what North Korea's glorious leader has recently done, it is inevitably stranger than fiction. Think about it -- this movie will never damage Kim's reputation as much as meeting with Dennis Rodman did. I think Sony was actually doing the guy a favor.
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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby mrswdk on Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:24 am

saxitoxin wrote:Based on the trailers I saw of The Interview, it appears to be a film designed to perpetuate and enforce false negative stereotyping. In doing so it greases the wheels of the U.S.' rambling war machine for some potential future conflict on the Korean Peninsula.


Some PLA generals said exactly the same thing about how Pacific Rim was an attempt to reinforce the US-Japanese alliance, belittle China and justify American hegemony in East Asia.

Then again, they have also argued that air pollution in Beijing is a literal cloud with a silver lining because it would reduce the range of laser weapons in the event of the US army invading Beijing.
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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:10 am

Metsfanmax wrote:It may be false, but is it really negative? I mean, whenever we do hear a headline regarding what North Korea's glorious leader has recently done, it is inevitably stranger than fiction.


That's the fault of the New York Times tabloid-reporting on Pyongyang, not the DPRK. For instance, what you just said - "glorious leader" - is not a term used to refer to the Chairman of the National Defense Commission / General-Secretary of the Worker's Party of Korea outside of the bootlicking western press.

Consider this:

    1. Kim Jong Il Hit 18 holes-in-one, 38 under par or 34 under par
    This is the granddaddy of DPRK rumors. It’s been knocking around for years, but got a big boost after the Secretary’s death last December. Many took to twitter to discuss the issue after his death, joking about his legacy and the effect his death would have on the world’s golf-rankings. However, not a single source has ever been offered beyond “North Korean state media” by any of the articles making this claim: rather, they cite each other. Furthermore, informal surveys of North Koreans themselves revealed that no one in Pyongyang was aware of this legendary feat, unless told it by a tourist. It is the ultimate look-at-how-crazy-they-are rumor.

    http://www.nknews.org/2012/12/the-top-t ... rth-korea/

And here is the NYT reporting the golf score myth as fact (among 100 other august western publications):

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/21/sport ... html?_r=1&
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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:13 am

mrswdk wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:Based on the trailers I saw of The Interview, it appears to be a film designed to perpetuate and enforce false negative stereotyping. In doing so it greases the wheels of the U.S.' rambling war machine for some potential future conflict on the Korean Peninsula.


Some PLA generals said exactly the same thing about how Pacific Rim was an attempt to reinforce the US-Japanese alliance, belittle China and justify American hegemony in East Asia.


I didn't interpret it that way but I'm open to the idea. The Historic Bloc that we're fighting does not just operate in the political sphere. As Gramsci taught us, it is "[hegemonic] consent forged by a nexus of institutions, social relations, and ideas."

This, of course, doesn't suggest an intentional process or scheme like sabotage might proffer. Rather this is simply the naturally-occurring social flow of dependent power to dominant ideology that takes place in a highly structured social system like exists in the U.S. and western Europe. It happens without any kind of central direction, conscious thought, or coordinating apparatus.
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Postby _sabotage_ on Thu Dec 18, 2014 7:03 am

No, it doesn't in itself suggest the process is intentional. To prove it is intentional, we must assume that:

a. It is understood.
b. It is followed through by policy.
c. The policy crosses the political aisle.

If these there points are provable, then the suggestion of being intentional goes beyond reasonable doubt.

Bush introduces an axis of evil. He may have a varied definition of evil, but it doesn't vary from Obama's, since Obama pursued the same axis. Obama has promoted the same policies in just about everything and his challengers had the same policies.

Is this naturally occurring? Obama appoints a DEA head that thinks marijuana is as bad as heroin, yet himself admits to smoking lots of weed, has a population that is pro-weed (except those who are so deeply entrenched from the propaganda of the last 50 years), and when DC votes pro-weed, they are told, yeah, but no.

Obama is submitting to power. In your understanding, you say in his submission, he is assuming the power that the war on drugs provides. But this is not true. The power from the war on drugs isn't his and cannot be assumed. Real power would be in changing the laws. That would be his power and one that he can do many things to assume. Case in point with Cuba.

That he has the power to do so, has stated his intention to do so and yet has done the opposite and carried out the long maintained agenda suggests that he is enacting intentions that are not his, that the power is not his or that he is unable to challenge the power. None of these things are true. When you rule out the impossible, whatever's left no matter how improbable...

The axis of evil wasn't Bush's plan, it was written before he took office by conservative think tanks. As a conservative's plan, it should be the juxtaposition of Obama's plan and yet Obama has adhered to it.

Your assumption assumes that people are unable to learn from patterns, which is exactly how we learn. You assume that patterns can be dismissed as they reoccur because of beliefs. But just because a large portion of the population is willing to say that Obama believes in peace, doesn't make it so.

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When the lions a pussy, the scarecrow is brainless and the tin man is heartless, repeating lions and tigers shows conditioning not intelligence. The population has been conditioned, conditioned by the political system and media. The same system therefore can change the conditioning but chooses not to. Hence, it is intentional.

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Postby notyou2 on Thu Dec 18, 2014 7:43 am

Is my Sony DVD player hacked too?
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Postby GoranZ on Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:32 pm

Crazy :)

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