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Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

 
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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Fri Dec 26, 2014 2:31 pm

tzor wrote:North Korea was NOT behind the Sony hack according to multiple security experts who discredit FBI findings and reveal that a studio insider named 'Lena' may be responsible (Daily Mail)


Daily Mail online is unreliable.
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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby _sabotage_ on Fri Dec 26, 2014 2:35 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
tzor wrote:North Korea was NOT behind the Sony hack according to multiple security experts who discredit FBI findings and reveal that a studio insider named 'Lena' may be responsible (Daily Mail)


Daily Mail online is unreliable.


And the USG is?
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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Dec 26, 2014 2:44 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
sabotage wrote:When AOG takes a dick pic and an underage hacker accesses it, he'll be hauled off to jail in under 10 minutes.


I heard the reason AOG can never make it past the second date is because girls are afraid they'll get busted for child molestation after seeing his dick pic.

Tucked between bitchy emails about Angelina Jolie and snarky comments on Will Smith’s family are details of a chummy relationship between Sony executives and the CIA ...

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014 ... rown-away/


From the original article:
It did confirm the CIA official sat with Sony Senior Vice President for Corporate Security Stevan Bernard in the company’s floor-side seats in the Staples Center to watch the Lakers and Clippers play on October 31, 2014 — less than one month before the major security breach.


One Sony executive once sat down with a CIA agent to talk about [unknown] stuff.

Therefore, "This is just one indication of a close relationship between Sony execs and the U.S. government"? There is a "chummy relationship between Sony executives and the CIA"?


Who exactly are you quoting here? The voices in your head?
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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Fri Dec 26, 2014 5:17 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
sabotage wrote:When AOG takes a dick pic and an underage hacker accesses it, he'll be hauled off to jail in under 10 minutes.


I heard the reason AOG can never make it past the second date is because girls are afraid they'll get busted for child molestation after seeing his dick pic.

Tucked between bitchy emails about Angelina Jolie and snarky comments on Will Smith’s family are details of a chummy relationship between Sony executives and the CIA ...

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014 ... rown-away/


From the original article:
radaronline.com wrote:It did confirm the CIA official sat with Sony Senior Vice President for Corporate Security Stevan Bernard in the company’s floor-side seats in the Staples Center to watch the Lakers and Clippers play on October 31, 2014 — less than one month before the major security breach.


One Sony executive once sat down with a CIA agent to talk about [unknown] stuff.

Therefore, "This is just one indication of a close relationship between Sony execs and the U.S. government"? There is a "chummy relationship between Sony executives and the CIA"?


Who exactly are you quoting here? The voices in your head?


If you click on the link you provided (firstlook.org), you'll see that they provided a hyperlink (radaronline.com) to provide support for firstlook's "chummy" claim.

If you read that the radaronline.com link (you support verification, right?), then you'll see the difference in the conclusions made by firstlook.org (the "chummy" claimers) and radaronline.com (one Sony executive went to a game with a CIA agent).

You do realize the obvious discrepancy between the two completely different claims, right?
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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Fri Dec 26, 2014 5:18 pm

_sabotage_ wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
tzor wrote:North Korea was NOT behind the Sony hack according to multiple security experts who discredit FBI findings and reveal that a studio insider named 'Lena' may be responsible (Daily Mail)


Daily Mail online is unreliable.


And the USG is?


It depends, but surely you're no strong defender for the Daily Mail online, are you?
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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Dec 26, 2014 8:59 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
sabotage wrote:When AOG takes a dick pic and an underage hacker accesses it, he'll be hauled off to jail in under 10 minutes.


I heard the reason AOG can never make it past the second date is because girls are afraid they'll get busted for child molestation after seeing his dick pic.

Tucked between bitchy emails about Angelina Jolie and snarky comments on Will Smith’s family are details of a chummy relationship between Sony executives and the CIA ...

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014 ... rown-away/


From the original article:
radaronline.com wrote:It did confirm the CIA official sat with Sony Senior Vice President for Corporate Security Stevan Bernard in the company’s floor-side seats in the Staples Center to watch the Lakers and Clippers play on October 31, 2014 — less than one month before the major security breach.


One Sony executive once sat down with a CIA agent to talk about [unknown] stuff.

Therefore, "This is just one indication of a close relationship between Sony execs and the U.S. government"? There is a "chummy relationship between Sony executives and the CIA"?


Who exactly are you quoting here? The voices in your head?


If you click on the link you provided (firstlook.org), you'll see that they provided a hyperlink (radaronline.com) to provide support for firstlook's "chummy" claim.

If you read that the radaronline.com link (you support verification, right?), then you'll see the difference in the conclusions made by firstlook.org (the "chummy" claimers) and radaronline.com (one Sony executive went to a game with a CIA agent).

You do realize the obvious discrepancy between the two completely different claims, right?


huh?
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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby _sabotage_ on Fri Dec 26, 2014 9:30 pm

I trust them depending on the quality of their info.

That the CIA has close ties with the entertainment/media is nothing special. This whole story sounds strange from the pre-screening in the White House, to the hackers artwork. Would I be willing to hear a better story than has so far been presented? Not enough to click the link.
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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby DoomYoshi on Fri Dec 26, 2014 11:23 pm

There isn't a good poll option here. I request a further category:
"Hacking Sony is to 9/11 as the Apocalypse is to a scraped knee"
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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Fri Dec 26, 2014 11:58 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
sabotage wrote:When AOG takes a dick pic and an underage hacker accesses it, he'll be hauled off to jail in under 10 minutes.


I heard the reason AOG can never make it past the second date is because girls are afraid they'll get busted for child molestation after seeing his dick pic.

Tucked between bitchy emails about Angelina Jolie and snarky comments on Will Smith’s family are details of a chummy relationship between Sony executives and the CIA ...

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014 ... rown-away/


From the original article:
radaronline.com wrote:It did confirm the CIA official sat with Sony Senior Vice President for Corporate Security Stevan Bernard in the company’s floor-side seats in the Staples Center to watch the Lakers and Clippers play on October 31, 2014 — less than one month before the major security breach.


One Sony executive once sat down with a CIA agent to talk about [unknown] stuff.

Therefore, "This is just one indication of a close relationship between Sony execs and the U.S. government"? There is a "chummy relationship between Sony executives and the CIA"?


Who exactly are you quoting here? The voices in your head?


If you click on the link you provided (firstlook.org), you'll see that they provided a hyperlink (radaronline.com) to provide support for firstlook's "chummy" claim.

If you read that the radaronline.com link (you support verification, right?), then you'll see the difference in the conclusions made by firstlook.org (the "chummy" claimers) and radaronline.com (one Sony executive went to a game with a CIA agent).

You do realize the obvious discrepancy between the two completely different claims, right?


huh?

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/verification

I hope the links at mw won't confuse you.
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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sat Dec 27, 2014 12:30 am

_sabotage_ wrote:I trust them depending on the quality of their info.

That the CIA has close ties with the entertainment/media is nothing special. This whole story sounds strange from the pre-screening in the White House, to the hackers artwork. Would I be willing to hear a better story than has so far been presented? Not enough to click the link.


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... ce=twitter

That's an interesting read.

It doesn't deal with Sony's alleged "chummy relationship with the CIA," so it'll annoy saxi for failing to confirm his bias, but it's still a good read.
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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Dec 27, 2014 2:48 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:
_sabotage_ wrote:I trust them depending on the quality of their info.

That the CIA has close ties with the entertainment/media is nothing special. This whole story sounds strange from the pre-screening in the White House, to the hackers artwork. Would I be willing to hear a better story than has so far been presented? Not enough to click the link.


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... ce=twitter

That's an interesting read.

It doesn't deal with Sony's alleged "chummy relationship with the CIA," so it'll annoy saxi for failing to confirm his bias, but it's still a good read.


Um, again, all I posted was a one-line excerpt from The Intercept without comment. So, I'm still not sure what bias (or other voices) you were hearing as I didn't say anything. You often seem to be reading or hearing things that no one else can see (or hear). Did you skip your meds today?
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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby DoomYoshi on Sat Dec 27, 2014 7:31 am

Or maybe you could just have a poll option for "I am DoomYoshi"
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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Dec 27, 2014 10:58 am

DoomYoshi wrote:There isn't a good poll option here. I request a further category:
"Hacking Sony is to 9/11 as the Apocalypse is to a scraped knee"

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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby betiko on Sat Dec 27, 2014 1:13 pm

ok guys so where do we stand here?

is this another major US f*ck up with an incompetent FBI taking assumptions for proofs, another major smoke screen to reach NK all in a premedited way, or is it indeed a NK cyber attack? Is it an inside job (sony) for a little extra advertising for a complete shit film?
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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sat Dec 27, 2014 3:19 pm

betiko wrote:ok guys so where do we stand here?

is this another major US f*ck up with an incompetent FBI taking assumptions for proofs, another major smoke screen to reach NK all in a premedited way, or is it indeed a NK cyber attack? Is it an inside job (sony) for a little extra advertising for a complete shit film?


The "disgruntled Sony employee" case seems to be the most likely correct story.
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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sun Dec 28, 2014 12:16 pm



Lizard Squad did it, according to Sky News TV (with an interview from a hacker). Lizard Squad had 3-4 core members.


There's no "deep state" story of CIA agents cooperating with all the Sony execs in this story, so it won't convince some of the conspiracy theorists here.
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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby patches70 on Sun Dec 28, 2014 3:57 pm

Two days before Christmas, my brother and I were playing some COD. WE always mute everyone else so we don't have to listen to the blithering idiots bitching about this or that. Anyway, he and I get ourselves a bit of hate mail on occasion from try-hards and on this night my brother got a voice message that made us laugh and laugh. We love getting hate mail, it makes our game sessions worth it.

Anyway, this guy sent my brother a message and he was bitching about both of us and he said something to the effect- "We're taking down Xbox live on Christmas". That made us laugh. Apparently, Xbox and Playstation were both DDOS'd or something on Christmas. Maybe this guy knew something about it before hand.

It's still funny though. I think Xbox live was down for a few hours, I don't know because I was celebrating Christmas with the family and didn't play any or notice any interruptions of the service. I only heard about the hack attack on Xbox and Playstation afterward.
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Re: Is hacking the Sony Corporation the equivalent of 9/11?

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Dec 28, 2014 6:37 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
tzor wrote:North Korea was NOT behind the Sony hack according to multiple security experts who discredit FBI findings and reveal that a studio insider named 'Lena' may be responsible (Daily Mail)


Daily Mail online is unreliable.


BigBallinStalin wrote:
betiko wrote:ok guys so where do we stand here?

is this another major US f*ck up with an incompetent FBI taking assumptions for proofs, another major smoke screen to reach NK all in a premedited way, or is it indeed a NK cyber attack? Is it an inside job (sony) for a little extra advertising for a complete shit film?


The "disgruntled Sony employee" case seems to be the most likely correct story.


This either represented a masterful attempt at trolling or a final break with sanity.
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