Baltimore

[khazalid]

well, that sounds totes plausible.

[Phatscotty]

After years of police oppression and harrassemt, poverty,no economic opportunity,42% unemployment rate,we are surprised there it a riot. I say "Let them eat cake"

I say 'Keep electing Democrats'

[tzor]

Fleeing from eye contact? Doesn't sound like grounds for arrest.

It does when you have a criminal record.

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Oh by the way, WTF is a "Grown-Ass Person?" Is that degraded Baltimore speak? After protests, Baltimore curfew meets resistance "No grown-ass man is gonna tell me to go home." I mean is it an insult or a compliment? From CNN "We don’t NEED NO CURFEW! We GROWN ASS people!"

Baltimore needs to be purged ... WITH FIRE.

[ConfederateSS]

------"Grown-Ass Person"...Ebonics..Baby!..Ebonics..My family owned a store in Corktown for 70 years. I've lived it my whole life with people speaking American. That's why I could careless how I type my posts. Like they say in old western t.v. shows and movies. I speak American... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion).

[muy_thaiguy]

Fleeing from eye contact? Doesn't sound like grounds for arrest.

It does when you have a criminal record.

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Oh by the way, WTF is a "Grown-Ass Person?" Is that degraded Baltimore speak? After protests, Baltimore curfew meets resistance "No grown-ass man is gonna tell me to go home." I mean is it an insult or a compliment? From CNN "We don’t NEED NO CURFEW! We GROWN ASS people!"

Baltimore needs to be purged ... WITH FIRE.

One would think "grown ass men" would know better than to riot and destroy other people's property that had done nothing to them, but going by what happened, obviously not.

[mrswdk]

How does it happen that America's rate of police per capita is twice that of Japan and South Korea, and more than three times that of China - with a police budget that undoubtedly dwarfs each of those three countries - and yet seems to have significantly more trouble preventing mass disturbances such as this Baltimore nonsense?

[ConfederateSS]

-----How you ask. I hate to write this,but it's the truth. Lincoln freed the slaves. They went from plantation to prison. Still in iron changes. They will use the "we were slave excuse(crutch)",till the Earth is swallowed by the Sun. Because Chinese and Japanese people know how to take care of their property. There was a study done,in an American city. Where African Americans and Japanese Americans were each given a condo complex(20 families in each complex). For one year.When the year was up. The Japanese American families planted flowers etc., kept up their complex. It looked better than when they got it. The African American families totally destroyed their complex. Spray painted walls,broken windows,trash laying everywhere. The smell of human pee. Because they would rather pee all over their property like an animal. Then go inside and use their bathrooms. I know,I know.."we were slaves"..BLAH,BLAH,BLAH. Please would the African Americans..Please come up with a new excuse..No,really..it's the 21st century..It's time to get up off your asses ,pick up a piece of paper,in front of your houses. Throw it in the trash can,with the"we were slaves excuse".. No one cares anymore.. ...ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion).

[a6mzero]

Jesus u would have been right at home in Selma Ala in 1965 beating those uppity u know what's with rubber batons wrapped in bar wire.

[a6mzero]

Electing republicans is the answer because they r known champions of representing the poor, the weak, the disinfranchised, and minorities.

[riskllama]

don't taze me, bro...

[Dukasaur]

-----How you ask. I hate to write this,but it's the truth. Lincoln freed the slaves. They went from plantation to prison. Still in iron changes. They will use the "we were slave excuse(crutch)",till the Earth is swallowed by the Sun. Because Chinese and Japanese people know how to take care of their property. There was a study done,in an American city. Where African Americans and Japanese Americans were each given a condo complex(20 families in each complex). For one year.When the year was up. The Japanese American families planted flowers etc., kept up their complex. It looked better than when they got it. The African American families totally destroyed their complex. Spray painted walls,broken windows,trash laying everywhere. The smell of human pee. Because they would rather pee all over their property like an animal. Then go inside and use their bathrooms. I know,I know.."we were slaves"..BLAH,BLAH,BLAH. Please would the African Americans..Please come up with a new excuse..No,really..it's the 21st century..It's time to get up off your asses ,pick up a piece of paper,in front of your houses. Throw it in the trash can,with the"we were slaves excuse".. No one cares anymore.. ...ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion).

As I read that, literally at the same moment, my one next door neighbour (who happens to be black as coal) is out there meticulously weeding his garden. His yard is actually quite a bit neater than mine.

It's not about race, my friend. It's about ownership. People in tenements don't give a f*ck because they are essentially just transients. Might be very long-term transients, but transients just the same. They might live there for 50 years, but at any given moment the owner (if it's privately owned) or some bureaucrat (if it's a public project) can just say, "Okay, I changed my mind. We're going to build a parking garage there, everybody get the f*ck out, 60 days notice and kiss my ass!"

The same people in places they own might become very responsible. Of course, not all would, but most. I don't know the Japanese study you cited, but I have seen studies from Brazil and from South Africa, where the local government decided to extend property rights to the squatters in the barrios, and sure enough, like you said, the flower boxes and the paint cans came out. It's all about feeling that you're in charge, that your efforts will actually matter.

[GabonX]

Ya know, I keep hearing about how these minorities are acting out against oppression, and honestly it confuses the f*ck out of me...

Baltimore has a black mayor, a black Police commissioner, answering to a black Attorney General under a black President of the United States. The city has been democrat and minority run for decades, so who exactly is it that people think is oppressing these people?

[a6mzero]

Try walking or driving as a black man in this country, without getting the heebie jeebies when a cop drives by. Cops have one set of rules for whites and another for everyone else.

[GabonX]

[ConfederateSS]

-----Duke..no other race cries as much. On and on and on. The Native Americans have every right to cry to the cows come home you never hear them. Asians are very respectable people. I've seen Japanese people bring their own trash bags to an event,and clean up after themselves ,and take their garbage home with them.That's how they were brought up. Chinese Americans were treated worse than slaves in the 19th century. Yet not a peep out of them. Like I said in posts,my family owned a store. There were many,many great people of all races that came through the store. Every race has good and bad. But African Americans just will never get it, I guess. Example., The apartments across the street from the store,are full of African Americans,as well as White,Latin, Asian. But most of the African Americans. Will come out of their apartments. Get into their cars. Drive across the street to our store. Buy lottery tickets,smokes,beer/wine etc. Get back into their cars. Drive back across the street. Go back inside their apartments. Do you not see the key element here. Not the purchases. THE LAZINESS. Come on,who else wouldn't just walk across the street to the store. I could see if you were going some where after the store, than yes. Then out cry,"I can't believe gas is $4.oo a gallon. I never have gas". I can't imagine why. The people are nice as hell though. Their apartments are very nice, safe and clean. The Apartments do have care takers that man the grounds(though). ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion).

[AndyDufresne]

-----Duke..no other race cries as much. On and on and on. The Native Americans have every right to cry to the cows come home you never hear them. Asians are very respectable people. I've seen Japanese people bring their own trash bags to an event,and clean up after themselves ,and take their garbage home with them.That's how they were brought up. Chinese Americans were treated worse than slaves in the 19th century. Yet not a peep out of them. Like I said in posts,my family owned a store. There were many,many great people of all races that came through the store. Every race has good and bad. But African Americans just will never get it, I guess. Example., The apartments across the street from the store,are full of African Americans,as well as White,Latin, Asian. But most of the African Americans. Will come out of their apartments. Get into their cars. Drive across the street to our store. Buy lottery tickets,smokes,beer/wine etc. Get back into their cars. Drive back across the street. Go back inside their apartments. Do you not see the key element here. Not the purchases. THE LAZINESS. Come on,who else wouldn't just walk across the street to the store. I could see if you were going some where after the store, than yes. Then out cry,"I can't believe gas is $4.oo a gallon. I never have gas". I can't imagine why. The people are nice as hell though. Their apartments are very nice, safe and clean. The Apartments do have care takers that man the grounds(though). ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion).

Part of me wants to "Bad Translate" this, but I think Confed. does a pretty good job of it on his own.


--Andy

[khazalid]

Is it a cop?

Is it a troll?

No, it's ConfederateSS!

[Serbia]

We had a Detroit person(Malace Green) beaten to Death,by two crooked cops(like 20 years ago)

Malice Green wasn't "beaten to death by two crooked cops". Both cops, Walter Budzyn and Larry Nevers, had their initial convictions overturned. They were later convicted of involuntary manslaughter, and Nevers died at home (where they allowed him to serve his sentence) while still fighting to clear his name. I came to know Larry Nevers through the trial; I knew people who helped to fund his defense.

Bollocks.

[ConfederateSS]

-----Sorry, Serbia. I have many friends on the force. Also the Officer who ran the Mini station in Corktown. Knew those jackasses. They were as crooked as crooked can be. Green was on drugs. But he died because of the beating they gave him. Green was not the only black person they beat down either. Blacks throughout their neighborhoods, knew all about those two cops. Not that I would defend Green. Not because he's black. I hate crack heads. Never had much use for them,or to look at them. Working in a store,I had to wait on crack heads.For 16 hours a day. Then go home,and listen to the drug house next door all night long.But I will take Green's side ,when it comes to two crooked cops getting off again. They got off..SURPRISE ,SURPRISE........ ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion).

[Phatscotty]

How does it happen that America's rate of police per capita is twice that of Japan and South Korea, and more than three times that of China - with a police budget that undoubtedly dwarfs each of those three countries - and yet seems to have significantly more trouble preventing mass disturbances such as this Baltimore nonsense?

America is non-homogenius, and political correctness has finally seeped into our police departments.

[got tonkaed]

I feel like re: budgets and not stopping mass disturbance question, we also have a set up at this point that puts officers in a difficult situation in some of these communities where these hotbeds of discontent are popping up.

A fair number of municipalities gain a notable portion of their revenue from citations. So in essence in some areas, officers end up getting too much information on how their actions are impacting the budget, and then probably feel some internal pressure to act accordingly.

If you feel like the police are doing a good job day and in and day out, and something horrible happens, you don't go riot. If you feel like the police are purposely adversarial toward your community, and something terrible happens, you get stuff like this.

[mrswdk]

How does it happen that America's rate of police per capita is twice that of Japan and South Korea, and more than three times that of China - with a police budget that undoubtedly dwarfs each of those three countries - and yet seems to have significantly more trouble preventing mass disturbances such as this Baltimore nonsense?

America is non-homogenius, and political correctness has finally seeped into our police departments.

Derp.

Well then, same question but comparing the US to the Philippines* and Malaysia**.

*less then half the number of police per capita and far more ethnically diverse than the US
**just as diverse as the US, slightly fewer police officers per capita

[a6mzero]

Not only are blacks lazy, they can all sing, they can all run fast, they are all athletic, They are all on welfare, they are all from the hood, they all love watermelon,and to cap it off their brains are smaller.

[tzor]

How does it happen that America's rate of police per capita is twice that of Japan and South Korea, and more than three times that of China - with a police budget that undoubtedly dwarfs each of those three countries - and yet seems to have significantly more trouble preventing mass disturbances such as this Baltimore nonsense?

It should be pointed out that the Mayor of Baltimore deliberately allowed the trouble to get out of hand.

On the other hand.

It should also be pointed out that a significant amount of policing budget for the high tech toys goes to SWAT teams designed more for impressive raids into someone's house than for actual crowd disbursement and control. Political correctness tends to go to excess in terms of crowd control and tends to be completely forgotten in SWAT team raids.

[Serbia]

-----Sorry, Serbia. I have many friends on the force. Also the Officer who ran the Mini station in Corktown. Knew those jackasses. They were as crooked as crooked can be. Green was on drugs. But he died because of the beating they gave him. Green was not the only black person they beat down either. Blacks throughout their neighborhoods, knew all about those two cops. Not that I would defend Green. Not because he's black. I hate crack heads. Never had much use for them,or to look at them. Working in a store,I had to wait on crack heads.For 16 hours a day. Then go home,and listen to the drug house next door all night long.But I will take Green's side ,when it comes to two crooked cops getting off again. They got off..SURPRISE ,SURPRISE........ ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion).

You say they were crooked, so explain that. You admit Green was on drugs. He died not because he was rapped on the hand by a flashlight, but because the drugs cooked his heart. And they did not "get off" - both had their convictions reduced to involuntary manslaughter. Budzyn stopped fighting it, Nevers died while still fighting to completely clear himself. The only parallel between Baltimore and the Green case is that someone died, but the details are completely different. For what it's worth, both Nevers and Budzyn were highly decorated officers.

Bollocks.