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Re: Have you ever bullied anyone? Have you been bullied?

Postby rockfist on Tue May 05, 2015 9:49 am

I'm an amateur bodybuilder. 80% of us have been bullied. 80% of us have bullied someone at some time or another because you become that what you hated.
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Re: Have you ever bullied anyone? Have you been bullied?

Postby khazalid on Tue May 05, 2015 9:58 am

rockfist wrote:I'm an amateur bodybuilder. 80% of us have been bullied. 80% of us have bullied someone at some time or another because you become that what you hated.


that's awfully candid for a whey chomper
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Re: Have you ever bullied anyone? Have you been bullied?

Postby riskllama on Tue May 05, 2015 11:12 am

never mind that. you're looking huge, man! blast thru the burn and ride the zone and so forth...
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Re: Have you ever bullied anyone? Have you been bullied?

Postby rockfist on Tue May 05, 2015 11:44 am

khazalid wrote:
rockfist wrote:I'm an amateur bodybuilder. 80% of us have been bullied. 80% of us have bullied someone at some time or another because you become that what you hated.


that's awfully candid for a whey chomper


Its the truth, ugly though it might be. I would never have admitted it 15 years ago before I escaped the worst parts of the life. But now I am just a guy who trains, has a family, and plays CC too much.

I've never heard the term "whey chomper" is that something used in Scotland, or in Europe?
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Re: Have you ever bullied anyone? Have you been bullied?

Postby nietzsche on Tue May 05, 2015 11:51 am

rockfist wrote:
khazalid wrote:
rockfist wrote:I'm an amateur bodybuilder. 80% of us have been bullied. 80% of us have bullied someone at some time or another because you become that what you hated.


that's awfully candid for a whey chomper


Its the truth, ugly though it might be. I would never have admitted it 15 years ago before I escaped the worst parts of the life. But now I am just a guy who trains, has a family, and plays CC too much.

I've never heard the term "whey chomper" is that something used in Scotland, or in Europe?


so you think being bullied has a lot to do with becoming a bodybuilder?
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Re: Have you ever bullied anyone? Have you been bullied?

Postby Metsfanmax on Tue May 05, 2015 12:15 pm

nietzsche bullies me every time he wins a fantasy baseball game
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Re: Have you ever bullied anyone? Have you been bullied?

Postby nietzsche on Tue May 05, 2015 12:22 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:nietzsche bullies me every time he wins a fantasy baseball game


it's tough love so you become a better player
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Re: Have you ever bullied anyone? Have you been bullied?

Postby rockfist on Tue May 05, 2015 12:44 pm

nietzsche wrote:
rockfist wrote:
khazalid wrote:
rockfist wrote:I'm an amateur bodybuilder. 80% of us have been bullied. 80% of us have bullied someone at some time or another because you become that what you hated.


that's awfully candid for a whey chomper


Its the truth, ugly though it might be. I would never have admitted it 15 years ago before I escaped the worst parts of the life. But now I am just a guy who trains, has a family, and plays CC too much.

I've never heard the term "whey chomper" is that something used in Scotland, or in Europe?


so you think being bullied has a lot to do with becoming a bodybuilder?


For me it did. For a lot of others I know (but not everyone) that became bodybuilders it did also.

The thing was I knew a lot of people who were naturally more talented (bigger or stronger) than I was initially (although I do respond very well to training), but those more talented individuals could not take the pain (and it hurts a lot) that came with training very hard. Natural talent gets you so far, but if you can't deal with pain, its a severe limiting factor on training.

For me it was deal with the pain of training or deal with the pain of being ridiculed and physically hurt - the choice was easy. Physical pain is easy. Mental pain is hard. I even got to a place where I truly enjoy a painful workout. There is a point of less than 1/10th of a second, when you are lifting heavy weight - where nothing else exists. Your wife left you for your best friend, took all your money, got custody of your kids, your dog died, you lost your home, you lost your job....for that brief moment none of that is real.
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Re: Have you ever bullied anyone? Have you been bullied?

Postby nietzsche on Tue May 05, 2015 12:51 pm

rockfist wrote:
nietzsche wrote:
rockfist wrote:
khazalid wrote:
rockfist wrote:I'm an amateur bodybuilder. 80% of us have been bullied. 80% of us have bullied someone at some time or another because you become that what you hated.


that's awfully candid for a whey chomper


Its the truth, ugly though it might be. I would never have admitted it 15 years ago before I escaped the worst parts of the life. But now I am just a guy who trains, has a family, and plays CC too much.

I've never heard the term "whey chomper" is that something used in Scotland, or in Europe?


so you think being bullied has a lot to do with becoming a bodybuilder?


For me it did. For a lot of others I know (but not everyone) that became bodybuilders it did also.

The thing was I knew a lot of people who were naturally more talented (bigger or stronger) than I was initially (although I do respond very well to training), but those more talented individuals could not take the pain (and it hurts a lot) that came with training very hard. Natural talent gets you so far, but if you can't deal with pain, its a severe limiting factor on training.

For me it was deal with the pain of training or deal with the pain of being ridiculed and physically hurt - the choice was easy. Physical pain is easy. Mental pain is hard. I even got to a place where I truly enjoy a painful workout. There is a point of less than 1/10th of a second, when you are lifting heavy weight - where nothing else exists. Your wife left you for your best friend, took all your money, got custody of your kids, your dog died, you lost your home, you lost your job....for that brief moment none of that is real.


What if the bully takes steroids? you're fucked again. Just kidding. Interesting that you mention pain, to few occasions someone tried to bully me I didn't think of the pain I would feel if they kicked my ass, I just defended myself, and as you say in that moment you take the decision to retaliate nothing exists, only anger. Interestingly enough you don't really get beaten, as they back off all the time when they see you're commited to it.

But I think it's a different kind of bullying in my country, I really never experienced the kind of vicious bullying it's reported to happen in the US.
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Re: Have you ever bullied anyone? Have you been bullied?

Postby rockfist on Tue May 05, 2015 12:59 pm

It isn't necessary to be able to beat up a bully. If you are capable of hurting them bad if it does come to blows its enough.

I stood down a 290 pound defensive tackle on a university football team when I was "only" 235 by saying -"I don't want to fight, you'd clearly win, but if I get in a shot its going to hurt." He didn't really want to fight either, I just had a douche bag friend being obnoxious (150 pounds of course) who he wanted me to get out of there so I did.

Steroids aren't magic. You still have to put in the work. You can take two lifters with the same genetics one who can deal with intense pain while working out who doesn't take steroids - and one who takes steroids but can't take the pain - they'll be about the same.
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Re: Have you ever bullied anyone? Have you been bullied?

Postby mrswdk on Tue May 05, 2015 9:08 pm

It's relatively common for bullying in Chinese schools to take the form of a gang of girls forcing another girl to strip off while they take photos.

This is just in weird rural and small town regions though (e.g. where khazalid lives). You don't get that sort of behavior in first tier cities.
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Re: Have you ever bullied anyone? Have you been bullied?

Postby muy_thaiguy on Tue May 05, 2015 9:13 pm

mrswdk wrote:It's relatively common for bullying in Chinese schools to take the form of a gang of girls forcing another girl to strip off while they take photos.

This is just in weird rural and small town regions though (e.g. where khazalid lives). You don't get that sort of behavior in first tier cities.

Yeah, I'm sure bullying NEVER happens in the main cities...
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Re: Have you ever bullied anyone? Have you been bullied?

Postby mrswdk on Tue May 05, 2015 9:56 pm

muy_thaiguy wrote:
mrswdk wrote:It's relatively common for bullying in Chinese schools to take the form of a gang of girls forcing another girl to strip off while they take photos.

This is just in weird rural and small town regions though (e.g. where khazalid lives). You don't get that sort of behavior in first tier cities.

Yeah, I'm sure bullying NEVER happens in the main cities...


It probably happens. I just mean that in those cities you don't get girls stripping each other off like that.
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Re: Have you ever bullied anyone? Have you been bullied?

Postby 2dimes on Tue May 05, 2015 11:55 pm

mrswdk wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
mrswdk wrote:It's relatively common for bullying in Chinese schools to take the form of a gang of girls forcing another girl to strip off while they take photos.

This is just in weird rural and small town regions though (e.g. where khazalid lives). You don't get that sort of behavior in first tier cities.

Yeah, I'm sure bullying NEVER happens in the main cities...


It probably happens. I just mean that in those cities you don't get girls stripping each other off like that.

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Re: Have you ever bullied anyone? Have you been bullied?

Postby Phatscotty on Tue May 05, 2015 11:59 pm

Benn bullied A TON! Out of probably 12 fights, only one of them was not against a bully. I had a starter jacket back in the day, the Charlotte Hornets before they had played a game. I was in 7th grade, and after school some 10th grader (the high school was right across the street from the middle school and we both walked to/from school) would do something behind my back, probably demonstrating to himself how easily he could take it. One day after just walking past him and his group, I heard a clap right behind my ear, and I turned around and caught him punching his fist into his hand, but it was so damn close it pissed me right off. So I stood up to him and said 'wtf is your problem? You think it's cool for a sophmorwe to pick on a 7th grader?' And without hesitation he punched me square in the face, except I did not budge ONE SINGLE INCH! It really was a Man of Steel moment. Everyone standing around us was like 'WHOA!' cuz apparently this bully was supposed to be this badass or something. I caught for a brief second he was shocked I didn't drop and that he did not have my jacket. well, that gained me a bit of confidence as well as a little time. I saw him around here n there many times, he would still talk shit like 'wtf you lookin at NERD!' but he never made physical actions at me like he used to all the time.... Until this one day, a couple years later....
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Re: Have you ever bullied anyone? Have you been bullied?

Postby Phatscotty on Wed May 06, 2015 12:44 am

nietzsche wrote:
rockfist wrote:
khazalid wrote:
rockfist wrote:I'm an amateur bodybuilder. 80% of us have been bullied. 80% of us have bullied someone at some time or another because you become that what you hated.


that's awfully candid for a whey chomper


Its the truth, ugly though it might be. I would never have admitted it 15 years ago before I escaped the worst parts of the life. But now I am just a guy who trains, has a family, and plays CC too much.

I've never heard the term "whey chomper" is that something used in Scotland, or in Europe?


so you think being bullied has a lot to do with becoming a bodybuilder?


Punctilious question! I'm overdosing protein shakes daily, and It's been about 2 weeks since I got my NEW main vein. But I only got 'Zack' on my right arm, so now I'm trying hard to make the other nut to drop.

I'm about right here, after 10 months. (and slightly better looking)

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Re: Have you ever bullied anyone? Have you been bullied?

Postby saxitoxin on Wed May 06, 2015 1:18 am

Phatscotty wrote: Until this one day, a couple years later....


If the second part of this story involves a fight in the showers after wrestling practice I'm unsubscribing from this thread right this F'ing minute.
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Re: Have you ever bullied anyone? Have you been bullied?

Postby Phatscotty on Wed May 06, 2015 2:09 am

saxitoxin wrote:
Phatscotty wrote: Until this one day, a couple years later....


If the second part of this story involves a fight in the showers after wrestling practice I'm unsubscribing from this thread right this F'ing minute.


Jumpin Jahusaphat! Joltin Jeremiah! You are like 66% right! The fight was about him making a federally chargable comment of viciously horrendous hate speech to my face, and it was about me being a wrestler, and the best part of the story is the ending the day after the fight when I showed up to wrestling practice. Showers? nah, only time I EVER saw something EVER happen in a shower was....... this one time......in jail. I promise not to tell the jail story Saxi. But I will say one thing, since you still haven't invited me to anything (BULLY!)

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Re: Have you ever bullied anyone? Have you been bullied?

Postby betiko on Wed May 06, 2015 6:38 am

Here in france I think bullying was much more psychological than physical. I think the worse bullying age is when you arrive in... would that be called middle school? basically here it's primary school from grade 1 to 5, middle school from grade 6 to 9 and then high school would be grade 10.
Well basically, when you join 6th grade there used to be a lot of bullying from the 7th graders.. and when you make it to 7th grade the next year you bully 6th graders. Basically you become pubert between grade 6 and grade 7, so I think there is all this thing going on where newley teenagers bully the guys that are a few month younger and still kids.

I've always been in the average in terms of height and body structure, so never been the type of guy that gets targeted a lot. And wasn't too bad in comebacks when I got insulted.

Oh and at some point I moved to spain when I was 14 in the middle of a school year. It was pretty tough for me as I was the new guy and a lot of picked on me, mostly the guys that were 1 or 2 years older and in the same class. The next year they mostly all got kicked out because they were awful students and didn't have to deal with them. suckers!

so yeah, the most difficult times were probably around 11 then 14.

regarding rockfist: I heard that a lot from guys lifting weights. The majority of them used to be skinny guys that would get picked on a lot and in response they got into body building.
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Re: Have you ever bullied anyone? Have you been bullied?

Postby waauw on Wed May 06, 2015 8:50 am

High school, especially the early years, was horrible. I used to get bullied a lot between the ages of 12-15. Mostly psychological of course, though there was the occasional 'push and trip him to the floor' or 'punch him hard on the shoulder' to say hello kind of thing. Many times I spent my lunch breaks in the toilets hiding or obeying other kids semi-slavelike. I was spindly, despite that I did practice sports(football/soccer doesn't exactly train upper body strength) and mostly I was too socially inept.

At the time I regrettably sympathized with the american high school shooting dramas and I used to carry around a knife all the time. Not that I ever used it, but the thought of some day taking revenge was reassuring. The only times I really resisted my bullies was when I lost control. I had an implosive personality, always not resisting all their crap, until it all converged out into a singular moment.

Fortunately nowadays, things have moved on and I am not as frustrated and angry as I used to be.
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Re: Have you ever bullied anyone? Have you been bullied?

Postby rockfist on Wed May 06, 2015 10:50 am

Phatscotty wrote:
nietzsche wrote:
rockfist wrote:
khazalid wrote:
rockfist wrote:I'm an amateur bodybuilder. 80% of us have been bullied. 80% of us have bullied someone at some time or another because you become that what you hated.


that's awfully candid for a whey chomper


Its the truth, ugly though it might be. I would never have admitted it 15 years ago before I escaped the worst parts of the life. But now I am just a guy who trains, has a family, and plays CC too much.

I've never heard the term "whey chomper" is that something used in Scotland, or in Europe?


so you think being bullied has a lot to do with becoming a bodybuilder?


Punctilious question! I'm overdosing protein shakes daily, and It's been about 2 weeks since I got my NEW main vein. But I only got 'Zack' on my right arm, so now I'm trying hard to make the other nut to drop.

I'm about right here, after 10 months. (and slightly better looking)

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Nice.

Bullying goes on all the time. I've got a juicer who is trying to bully me in the weight room now. I never did anything to him, except lift more than him (which apparently is a crime). He is a dumb one. He was giving me shit the other day and I told him he needed to up his estrogen blockers so he stopped PMS-ing so much. He looked at me with a blank stare. Anyone who lives the life will know why this is funny.

I've been 100% natty for over seven years, and basically natty for about 15. This douche bag doesn't get, that even if he did lift more than me I could gain 10-15% strength in 3 weeks if I needed to...but its not about what anyone else lifts - its about doing the best I can.
Its not about how big anyone else is - its about being as big as I can be - natty.
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Re: Have you ever bullied anyone? Have you been bullied?

Postby Serbia on Wed May 06, 2015 11:12 am

rockfist wrote:I've been 100% natty for over seven years


So you're natty dread?

Bollocks.
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Re: Have you ever bullied anyone? Have you been bullied?

Postby saxitoxin on Wed May 06, 2015 11:13 am

waauw wrote:At the time I regrettably sympathized with the american high school shooting dramas and I used to carry around a knife all the time. Not that I ever used it, but the thought of some day taking revenge was reassuring. The only times I really resisted my bullies was when I lost control. I had an implosive personality, always not resisting all their crap, until it all converged out into a singular moment.

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Re: Have you ever bullied anyone? Have you been bullied?

Postby rockfist on Wed May 06, 2015 11:42 am

Serbia wrote:
rockfist wrote:I've been 100% natty for over seven years


So you're natty dread?

Bollocks.


I'm not sure what you mean here. Ah, its a reference to another player's name, got it. No, I mean I have not used any PEDs in over 7 years, nor do I intend to at my stage in life.
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Re: Have you ever bullied anyone? Have you been bullied?

Postby Serbia on Wed May 06, 2015 11:50 am

rockfist wrote:
Serbia wrote:
rockfist wrote:I've been 100% natty for over seven years


So you're natty dread?

Bollocks.


I'm not sure what you mean here. Ah, its a reference to another player's name, got it. No, I mean I have not used any PEDs in over 7 years, nor do I intend to at my stage in life.


So is the assumption here that natty has never used PEDs? Or do you know it as fact? I never knew he lifted.

Bollocks.
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