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You're all fascists

Postby mrswdk on Fri Aug 07, 2015 5:52 pm

With all your lame busy body justifications for interfering in the way other people live their lives.
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Re: You're all fascists

Postby mrswdk on Fri Aug 07, 2015 5:52 pm

With the possible exceptions of PS and BBS, but Biebs doesn't come here any more so he doesn't count.
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Re: You're all fascists

Postby riskllama on Fri Aug 07, 2015 5:56 pm

ha! U have to change your avatar, dontcha?
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Re: You're all fascists

Postby KoolBak on Sat Aug 08, 2015 9:35 am

I, for one, don't facebook....so I am NOT a faceist...
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Re: You're all fascists

Postby DaGip on Sat Aug 08, 2015 3:54 pm

riskllama wrote:ha! U have to change your avatar, dontcha?


No. It's clearly a Buddha and mrswdk is clearly a worshiper of said deity. The fascist that I am says his freedom of religion out weighs the proposed significance of the stupid little symbol on Buddha's chest.

Look at Prophecy Rock located on the Hopi Resrvation:

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Clearly the picture carved into the rock isn't meant to be a fascist symbol. I was told it symbolizes the "Path of the Creator". It symbolizes rotation and cycles.

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Re: You're all fascists

Postby Metsfanmax on Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:22 pm

It sounds like you're just as unable to detect shades of grey as Phatscotty is.
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Re: You're all fascists

Postby Phatscotty on Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:37 pm

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Re: You're all fascists

Postby tzor on Sat Aug 08, 2015 9:36 pm

mrswdk wrote:With all your lame busy body justifications for interfering in the way other people live their lives.

  1. Please cite the way I interfere in other people's lives
  2. Please cite my "lame excuses"
  3. Please present an argument for how either implies I have a connection to national socialism
Failure to provide answers to the above will bring about a motion to dismiss your argument out of hand.
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Re: You're all fascists

Postby luns101 on Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:40 pm

mrswdk wrote:With all your lame busy body justifications for interfering in the way other people live their lives.


So what, I was busy being a fascist and interferring in the way other people lived their lives before it was cool. Most of the others here only joined in because of peer pressure.
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Re: You're all fascists

Postby mrswdk on Sun Aug 09, 2015 1:34 am

tzor wrote:
mrswdk wrote:With all your lame busy body justifications for interfering in the way other people live their lives.

  1. Please cite the way I interfere in other people's lives
  2. Please cite my "lame excuses"
  3. Please present an argument for how either implies I have a connection to national socialism
Failure to provide answers to the above will bring about a motion to dismiss your argument out of hand.


Godwin's Law, your post is invalid.
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Re: You're all fascists

Postby / on Sun Aug 09, 2015 5:25 am

I dislike the implications. I demand that this thread be locked, the content be censored, and the op, as well as everyone who posted here; including me, be banned, and/or flogged.
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Re: You're all fascists

Postby betiko on Sun Aug 09, 2015 5:41 am

DaGip wrote:
riskllama wrote:ha! U have to change your avatar, dontcha?


No. It's clearly a Buddha and mrswdk is clearly a worshiper of said deity. The fascist that I am says his freedom of religion out weighs the proposed significance of the stupid little symbol on Buddha's chest.


What s stupid about that symbol?
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Re: You're all fascists

Postby tzor on Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:20 am

mrswdk wrote:
tzor wrote:
mrswdk wrote:With all your lame busy body justifications for interfering in the way other people live their lives.

  1. Please cite the way I interfere in other people's lives
  2. Please cite my "lame excuses"
  3. Please present an argument for how either implies I have a connection to national socialism
Failure to provide answers to the above will bring about a motion to dismiss your argument out of hand.


Godwin's Law, your post is invalid.


Godwin's law? Why everyone knows it was the Italians under Mussolini who invented Fascism.

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Re: You're all fascists

Postby mrswdk on Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:25 am

tzor wrote:Godwin's law?


tzor wrote:national socialism


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Re: You're all fascists

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Aug 09, 2015 4:20 pm

While Godwin's Law can point out and disqualify preposterous nazis accusations
Godwin's Law does protect and defend nazis from ever having to identify or explain themselves
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Re: You're all fascists

Postby warmonger1981 on Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:31 pm

God-wins law. Case closed.
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Re: You're all fascists

Postby Dukasaur on Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:43 pm

Godwin's Law is not some immutable law of nature like the laws of Thermodynamics. It's just a description of a tendency, not much different than saying Italians tend to use too much basil in their recipes.

Furthermore, what most people call "Godwin's Law" isn't even Godwin's actual law.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
The actual wording of Godwin's Law:
wikipedia wrote:Godwin's Law (or Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies)[1][2] is an Internet adage asserting that "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1"[2][3]—​ that is, if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Hitler or Nazism.


The thing about losing is what is known as the First Corollary of Godwin's Law:
wikipedia wrote:There are many corollaries to Godwin's law, some considered more canonical (by being adopted by Godwin himself)[3] than others.[1] For example, there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress.[8] This principle is itself frequently referred to as Godwin's law.


The inappropriate usage of Godwin's Law to silence people has been well observed:
wikipedia wrote:Although falling foul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually appropriate.[9] Similar criticisms of the "law" (or "at least the distorted version which purports to prohibit all comparisons to German crimes") have been made by Glenn Greenwald.[10]


Following that last link from wikipedia, we come to this article:
http://www.salon.com/2010/07/01/godwin/
Greenwald wrote:Responding to the neocon objections to my post on the universality of war-justifying propaganda, Kevin Drum writes that it’s ā€œtime to repeal Godwin’s Lawā€ — at least the distorted version which purports to prohibit all comparisons to German crimes — labeling it an ā€œan endlessly tiresome way of feigning moral indignation.ā€ Kevin adds: ā€WWII analogies are extremely useful because they’re familiar to almost everyone.ā€ I agree: the very notion that a major 20th Century event like German aggression is off-limits in political discussions is both arbitrary and anti-intellectual in the extreme. There simply are instances where such comparisons uniquely illuminate important truths: recall, for example, Andrew Sullivan’s consequential discovery of the stark similarities between the Bush/Cheney and Gestapo ā€œenhanced interrogationā€ documents, both in terms of approved tactics and ā€œjustifications.ā€ To demand that German crimes be treated as sacred and unmentionable is to deprive our discourse of critical truths.
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Re: You're all fascists

Postby Metsfanmax on Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:53 pm

A terrible writer defends using a heavily overused analogy instead of coming up with unique and interesting phrases? What a shock.
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Re: You're all fascists

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Aug 09, 2015 11:50 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:It sounds like you're just as unable to detect shades of grey as Phatscotty is.


I assume this stems from your mistake in assuming that if a country's average temperature didn't drop that it must certainly have risen.... whence I reminded you in your fanatical fervor it was possible that an average temperature may also remain unchanged from last year
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Re: You're all fascists

Postby Metsfanmax on Sun Aug 09, 2015 11:55 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:It sounds like you're just as unable to detect shades of grey as Phatscotty is.


I assume this stems from your mistake in assuming that if a country's average temperature didn't drop that it must certainly have risen.... whence I reminded you in your fanatical fervor it was possible that an average temperature may also remain unchanged from last year


I didn't bother correcting you because I didn't see the point. But, since you insist, no. Temperature is a real quantity and so the temperature is not going to be exactly the same two years in a row. It is possible that the difference between the two temperatures could be within the measurement errors, in which case we could not say with certainty what the temperature change was, but that is not the same as saying the temperature didn't change.

Phatscotty, you're not a scientist. I don't really care whether you listen to us or not on the issue of global warming... but please don't for one second think that you understand something that we don't, because we're smarter than you and have spent a hell of a lot more time thinking about it. We quite literally don't care about your opinion on the issue.

Have a good one.
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Re: You're all fascists

Postby / on Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:19 am

Mets, I gotta say, that actually does sound pretty exclusionary and fascist. I suppose next you're going to say only doctors should practice medicine, and only rocket scientists should build and launch rockets. :roll:
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Re: You're all fascists

Postby Metsfanmax on Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:23 am

/ wrote:Mets, I gotta say, that actually does sound pretty exclusionary and fascist. I suppose next you're going to say only doctors should practice medicine, and only rocket scientists should build and launch rockets. :roll:
Live and let live, man.


I don't have an objection to letting Phatscotty try his hand on the free market for selling his scientific ideas. I'm pretty sure we'll be fine.
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Re: You're all fascists

Postby rishaed on Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:06 am

Metsfanmax wrote:
/ wrote:Mets, I gotta say, that actually does sound pretty exclusionary and fascist. I suppose next you're going to say only doctors should practice medicine, and only rocket scientists should build and launch rockets. :roll:
Live and let live, man.


I don't have an objection to letting Phatscotty try his hand on the free market for selling his scientific ideas. I'm pretty sure we'll be fine.

Fine buying his hand or his ideas? :lol:
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Re: You're all fascists

Postby notyou2 on Mon Aug 10, 2015 9:25 am

Metsfanmax wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:It sounds like you're just as unable to detect shades of grey as Phatscotty is.


I assume this stems from your mistake in assuming that if a country's average temperature didn't drop that it must certainly have risen.... whence I reminded you in your fanatical fervor it was possible that an average temperature may also remain unchanged from last year


I didn't bother correcting you because I didn't see the point. But, since you insist, no. Temperature is a real quantity and so the temperature is not going to be exactly the same two years in a row. It is possible that the difference between the two temperatures could be within the measurement errors, in which case we could not say with certainty what the temperature change was, but that is not the same as saying the temperature didn't change.

Phatscotty, you're not a scientist. I don't really care whether you listen to us or not on the issue of global warming... but please don't for one second think that you understand something that we don't, because we're smarter than you and have spent a hell of a lot more time thinking about it. We quite literally don't care about your opinion on the issue.

Have a good one.


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Re: You're all fascists

Postby mrswdk on Tue Aug 11, 2015 2:40 am

inb4 policy makers ignore Mets' opinions about government policy for the exact same reasons and he gets mad
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