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America also hates freedom

Postby mrswdk on Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:21 am

Sexy woman handed Draconian prison sentence for engaging in consensual sex with eager young men.

She’s One Of The ā€œHottest Teachers Of ALL TIMEā€.. But She Just Got THIRTY YEARS In Jail For This…

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Brianne Altice, a 36-year-old English high-school teacher, has been sentenced to up to 30 years in jail. Why? For sleeping with minors. Three of her underage students to be exact. Her young suitors were just 17, and one of them 16, which makes them minors in the eyes of the law. Brianne initially pleaded not guilty, saying that she was just friendly with these boys. However, as the case progressed, and the victims came to light and admitted to having had a sexual relationship with her, she pleaded guilty.

The judge sentenced her to 2 consecutive terms of imprisonment from 1 to 15 years. This means that Brianne is facing a minimum of 2 and a maximum of 30 years in jail.


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Re: America also hates freedom

Postby tkr4lf on Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:52 am

I'd hit it.
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Re: America also hates freedom

Postby waauw on Sat Sep 19, 2015 9:30 am

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Re: America also hates freedom

Postby KoolBak on Sat Sep 19, 2015 10:19 am

Need to change the thread title zeke....something like "American teachers are sluts" or somesuch.....this one is way off.
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Re: America also hates freedom

Postby betiko on Sat Sep 19, 2015 10:36 am

I m pretty sure that if I have a 16yo kid that loses his virginity to such a hottie i d give him a high five. If it s a daughter though, I wouldn t react the same way
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Re: America also hates freedom

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Sep 19, 2015 10:44 am

Or maybe "American Judges are Jealous Killjoys."

30 years for banging some students who probably loved every minute of it. Truly disgraceful.
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Re: America also hates freedom

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Sat Sep 19, 2015 11:15 am

Dukasaur wrote:Or maybe "American Judges are Jealous Killjoys."

30 years for banging some students who probably loved every minute of it. Truly disgraceful.


Uh huh. Switch the genders and the teacher would be a predator. We give women the pussy pass because they can't be predatory, right?

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Re: America also hates freedom

Postby betiko on Sat Sep 19, 2015 11:47 am

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:Or maybe "American Judges are Jealous Killjoys."

30 years for banging some students who probably loved every minute of it. Truly disgraceful.


Uh huh. Switch the genders and the teacher would be a predator. We give women the pussy pass because they can't be predatory, right?

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A woman can be raped by a man, but I hardly see how it can work the other way around though. Maybe she started it, but if it was some kind of mutual consent romance it s not the same thing that if she blackmailed the boys to do so...
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Re: America also hates freedom

Postby waauw on Sat Sep 19, 2015 11:51 am

betiko wrote:
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:Or maybe "American Judges are Jealous Killjoys."

30 years for banging some students who probably loved every minute of it. Truly disgraceful.


Uh huh. Switch the genders and the teacher would be a predator. We give women the pussy pass because they can't be predatory, right?

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A woman can be raped by a man, but I hardly see how it can work the other way around though. Maybe she started it, but if it was some kind of mutual consent romance it s not the same thing that if she blackmailed the boys to do so...


The fact is, she deserved a punishment because as a teacher she holds a position of authority over the student. That being said, the punishment is way too harsh. I mean, it's not like the kids were 12 years old.
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Re: America also hates freedom

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Sep 19, 2015 1:41 pm

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:Or maybe "American Judges are Jealous Killjoys."

30 years for banging some students who probably loved every minute of it. Truly disgraceful.


Uh huh. Switch the genders and the teacher would be a predator. We give women the pussy pass because they can't be predatory, right?

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I could answer this three different ways but I'll settle on one.

Consent matters. Male or female, I reject the very concept of "statutory rape". It's either rape or not. Rape is the use of force or threats of force to exploit someone sexually. Everything else is not rape. Period.

In this case there was clear evidence that the boys were willing and enthusiastic participants in their relationships with her. The judge ruled that the consensual nature of the relationships was irrelevant, and he's correct insofar as the law is written. It's the law that's wrong, plain and simple. Consent is what it's all about; the rest is bullshit.

As for any suggestion that statutory rape laws are there to "protect" those who are too young to provide implied consent, the hypocrisy of those excuses is easily exposed. In America, 12-year olds who rob grocery stores are routinely transferred from juvenile court to adult court and tried as adults. If the law was worried about protecting the young and assuming they can't make rational decisions, it would first be protecting 12-year olds from a lifetime of jail before protecting 17-year olds from getting laid. Regardless of hypocritical statements about "protecting" the young, statutory rape laws exist to enforce archaic religious ideas that sex for pleasure is sinful. (And I won't deny that below a certain age, informed consent is impossible, but that age sure as hell isn't anything in the teens. At 16, James Wolfe was commanding an infantry regiment and winning the Battle of Dettingen!)

Now, I think a teacher who is screwing students should be fired for misusing her position, and possibly sued for discrimination by the boys in her class who didn't get any tail. As for criminal conviction -- NO.
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Re: America also hates freedom

Postby mrswdk on Sat Sep 19, 2015 2:13 pm

Dukasaur wrote:misusing her position


How is she misusing her position? They approached her because they thought she was hot. The fact she was their teacher didn't enter into it.
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Re: America also hates freedom

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Sep 19, 2015 2:32 pm

mrswdk wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:misusing her position


How is she misusing her position? They approached her because they thought she was hot. The fact she was their teacher didn't enter into it.

Entering into a personal relationship, sexual or otherwise, with someone whom you also have a professional relationship with, is a violation of professional ethics and can cloud your judgement and interfere with the job. Teachers shouldn't screw their students for the same reasons that doctors shouldn't screw their patients and accountants shouldn't screw their clients. It breaks the carefully constructed wall of objectivity that a professional is supposed to stand behind.

To that extent I agree with her critics, nothing more.
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Re: America also hates freedom

Postby mrswdk on Sat Sep 19, 2015 2:49 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:misusing her position


How is she misusing her position? They approached her because they thought she was hot. The fact she was their teacher didn't enter into it.

Entering into a personal relationship, sexual or otherwise, with someone whom you also have a professional relationship with, is a violation of professional ethics and can cloud your judgement and interfere with the job. Teachers shouldn't screw their students for the same reasons that doctors shouldn't screw their patients and accountants shouldn't screw their clients. It breaks the carefully constructed wall of objectivity that a professional is supposed to stand behind.

To that extent I agree with her critics, nothing more.


Professional ethics? lol. So you would also call it a misuse of position if someone screws their colleague?
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Re: America also hates freedom

Postby / on Sat Sep 19, 2015 4:54 pm

So long as minors are considered the property/burden/responsibility of their guardians, shouldn't parents have the right to ensure their wards are :
1. Uncontaminated by sleazy teacher VD. After all it could negatively impact their health, reputation, or viability as a producer of future family members.
2. Measured to the same academic standards as their peers. Whoring for promotions can only get someone so far, and only the most skilled ever make it big as golddiggers, thus it's not really a viable alternative skill set to an education.

These people are being paid with our tax dollars, if they negatively impact the next generation, who will take care of the elderly?
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Re: America also hates freedom

Postby mrswdk on Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:28 pm

The article makes no suggestion that these pupils boning their teacher had any impact on their grades or the way in which they were examined*.

*apart from the way she examined the veins on their shafts
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Re: America also hates freedom

Postby 2dimes on Sat Sep 19, 2015 9:57 pm

I blame the "victims".

The obvious answer in court is, "I don't recall any sex. She was just being friendly with me. My spelling is pretty bad and I needed extra tutoring.. Lot's of extra tutoring."
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Re: America also hates freedom

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:02 am

Hottest teacher of all time? Really?
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Re: America also hates freedom

Postby subtleknifewield on Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:17 am

betiko wrote:I m pretty sure that if I have a 16yo kid that loses his virginity to such a hottie i d give him a high five. If it s a daughter though, I wouldn t react the same way

Great, two thumbs up for double-standards :V
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Re: America also hates freedom

Postby subtleknifewield on Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:22 am

mrswdk wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:misusing her position


How is she misusing her position? They approached her because they thought she was hot. The fact she was their teacher didn't enter into it.

Entering into a personal relationship, sexual or otherwise, with someone whom you also have a professional relationship with, is a violation of professional ethics and can cloud your judgement and interfere with the job. Teachers shouldn't screw their students for the same reasons that doctors shouldn't screw their patients and accountants shouldn't screw their clients. It breaks the carefully constructed wall of objectivity that a professional is supposed to stand behind.

To that extent I agree with her critics, nothing more.


Professional ethics? lol. So you would also call it a misuse of position if someone screws their colleague?

So you would say it was alright for someone in a position of authority to sleep with someone they have the authority over?

You do realize how that interferes with the chain of command in such situations, right? There is a reason military officers are not allowed to have romantic relationships with those under their direct command.

Or since you seem to support the teacher (or are at least pretending to to troll), I guess you do not realize this.
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Re: America also hates freedom

Postby mrswdk on Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:34 am

subtleknifewield wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:misusing her position


How is she misusing her position? They approached her because they thought she was hot. The fact she was their teacher didn't enter into it.

Entering into a personal relationship, sexual or otherwise, with someone whom you also have a professional relationship with, is a violation of professional ethics and can cloud your judgement and interfere with the job. Teachers shouldn't screw their students for the same reasons that doctors shouldn't screw their patients and accountants shouldn't screw their clients. It breaks the carefully constructed wall of objectivity that a professional is supposed to stand behind.

To that extent I agree with her critics, nothing more.


Professional ethics? lol. So you would also call it a misuse of position if someone screws their colleague?

So you would say it was alright for someone in a position of authority to sleep with someone they have the authority over?

You do realize how that interferes with the chain of command in such situations, right? There is a reason military officers are not allowed to have romantic relationships with those under their direct command.

Or since you seem to support the teacher (or are at least pretending to to troll), I guess you do not realize this.


I am arguing that she is not misusing her position, which is correct given that her position didn't play a part in her having sexual contact with those pupils.
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Re: America also hates freedom

Postby subtleknifewield on Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:49 am

It is highly improbable they would have met her if she was NOT their teacher. Perhaps she did not seek them out, after all the article does not say who propositioned whom. However, she still should have known better.
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Re: America also hates freedom

Postby mrswdk on Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:52 am

subtleknifewield wrote:It is highly improbable they would have met her if she was NOT their teacher


Clutching at straws.

subtleknifewield wrote:the article does not say who propositioned whom


There are 4 pages. The article says they made flirtatious advances towards her.
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Re: America also hates freedom

Postby subtleknifewield on Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:55 am

mrswdk wrote:
subtleknifewield wrote:It is highly improbable they would have met her if she was NOT their teacher


Clutching at straws.

subtleknifewield wrote:the article does not say who propositioned whom


There are 4 pages. The article says they made flirtatious advances towards her.

Clutching at straws? Hardly. I don't know how things work in China, but here, outside of school, kids tend to hang out with their own age group, young adults with theirs, and so on. It is a reasonable assumption given the time and place.

As for who approached who, I already accounted for that possibility. Thank you for simply clarifying and thus solidifying my position.
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Re: America also hates freedom

Postby mrswdk on Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:59 am

subtleknifewield reported for being PLAYER's multi.
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Re: America also hates freedom

Postby subtleknifewield on Sun Sep 20, 2015 10:04 am

*Yawn*

Is that the best you can do in response to a case of real logic?
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