Battle For Australia [Quenched]

by **AndyDufresne** on Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:08 pm

I'd still like to hear some more opinions on the starting neutrals. How many others think, where, etc.

Also, for the Start Your Own Game screen, what would you like us to call the map? We like to keep the names from getting too long (Cairns Coral Coast / King of the Mountains was about the max really). So perhaps "WWII - Australia" or something similar?

--Andy

by **Gilligan** on Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:02 pm

WWII Australian Battle

by **AndyDufresne** on Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:05 pm

Is adding 'Battle' to the name redundant?

--Andy

by **Gilligan** on Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:13 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Is adding 'Battle' to the name redundant?

--Andy

To what other part is making it redundant?

by **Gozar** on Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:29 pm

Big thumbs up for final forge, cairnswk. This one looks great!

by **cairnswk** on Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:24 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Is adding 'Battle' to the name redundant?
--Andy

Andy and Gilligan....firstly Andy thanks for Final Forge on this map.

To the name....there was a lot of debate here in australia, and it still runs in the papers from time to time, as to whether the Japanese wanted to invade and capture australia. They were a nation without many resources and their military i believe saw australia as the perfect target to overcome this obstacle. Many people believe they sought to invade Australia, and evidence points to this from the fact that Darwin, Cairns, Mossman, Townsville, Wyndham, Broome were bombed, and several scouting missions by plane were initiatied over Townsville and far north queensland. There was never any invasion of the australian mainland, and most of the fighting campaigns took place in PNG and other Pacific Islands. But there is still beleif and this discussion is refered to that this period in 1942 was THE BATTLE FOR AUSTRALIA.
It is long-winded but that is the historical basis of this map. The WWII can probably be discarded, although that points to this particular time in history.
Also I must add that there were two submarine scouts sent into Sydney Harbour, and a couple along the southern Western Australian coast down as as far Fremantle.

by **Gilligan** on Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:31 pm

We can get rid of 'The'. :wink:

by **cairnswk** on Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:31 pm

Gozar wrote:Big thumbs up for final forge, cairnswk. This one looks great!

Thanks Gozar...wonderful support you give!

by **cairnswk** on Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:35 pm

Gilligan wrote:We can get rid of 'The'.

agreed Gilligan...agreed.

by **Gilligan** on Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:37 pm

If we get rid of the 'The' it is only 3 letters longer than King of the Mountains.

by **AndyDufresne** on Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:47 pm

I still like 'WWII - Australia' better, but if you like 'Battle For Australia' I guess we could use it.

--Andy

by **Gilligan** on Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:52 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:I still like 'WWII - Australia' better, but if you like 'Battle For Australia' I guess we could use it.

--Andy

What is the maximum number of characters?

by **cairnswk** on Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:59 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:I still like 'WWII - Australia' better, but if you like 'Battle For Australia' I guess we could use it.
--Andy

Andy...I would like to keep the title on the map as WWII - Battle for Australia...but it can be referred to as WWII - Australia in the map listing if that helps with configuration limitations.

by **AndyDufresne** on Fri Jun 01, 2007 5:58 pm

So what is the #1 choice for name display on the Start Your Own Game screen? (I hope you know that's what I've been talking about, not changing it on map image).

Also, anyone got input on those neutrals? Didn't mean to derail any of that conversation.

--Andy

by **edbeard** on Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:02 pm

I'd prefer less neutrals. I think that there isn't enough incentive for players to take over these neutral areas, so they'll be left alone for the most part.

I believe we have 66 territories? Then, I recommend 6 neutrals. 60 is a great number, whether you have 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6 players you don't get any "bonus" neutrals. You'll only have those 6. Place them strategically so players have incentive to take them over. Probably on the smaller bonus continents.

by **Gilligan** on Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:05 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:So what is the #1 choice for name display on the Start Your Own Game screen? (I hope you know that's what I've been talking about, not changing it on map image).

Also, anyone got input on those neutrals? Didn't mean to derail any of that conversation.

--Andy

What about 2 player games on this map? That is a lot of neutral.

by **Coleman** on Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:14 pm

Gilligan wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:So what is the #1 choice for name display on the Start Your Own Game screen? (I hope you know that's what I've been talking about, not changing it on map image).

Also, anyone got input on those neutrals? Didn't mean to derail any of that conversation.

--Andy

What about 2 player games on this map? That is a lot of neutral.

Answered your own question I see.

I don't view this as a problem.

by **d.gishman** on Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:45 pm

very good map, and i can't wait to play it, but the font still looks a little bold too me..

by **cairnswk** on Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:07 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:So what is the #1 choice for name display on the Start Your Own Game screen? (I hope you know that's what I've been talking about, not changing it on map image).

Also, anyone got input on those neutrals? Didn't mean to derail any of that conversation.
--Andy

Yes Andy...for the Start Your Own Game Screen I prefer to have WWII - Australia...i figured that's what you were talking about and not the map. This could then become a category in the listing of WWII games.

by **cairnswk** on Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:21 pm

With regard to Neutral territories....my previous posting on P19 lists the 18...still leaving 48 terts (24 each side of the map so-to-speak) to start play with.

The terts that are neutral are:
Flores
Kupang
Timor
Tanimbar
Ambon
Merauke
Goroka
Fly River
Milne Bay
Kokoda
Lae
S Cristobal
Guadalcanal
Tulagi
Aru
IJN Shoho
Arawera
Madang

This is a good spread of a couple from each of those middle continents.
In order to play this map correctly, I beleive the neutrals should be left at 18, so that one gains the perspecetive of gameplay of the northerns invading south and the southerners moving north and then fighting begins in proper.

While i think it is generally accepted that POLLS are not necessary in many circumstances, because this aspect of neutrals affects GAMPELAY, then I would be happy to advance a POLL for this situation if it is so desired. (oh dear that's so British of me - turn of speech)

by **Wisse** on Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:14 am

gratz with your final forge

by **cairnswk** on Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:20 am

Wisse wrote:gratz with your final forge

Morning Wisse....thanx...hope everyone enjoys this one also!

by **Wisse** on Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:24 am

cairnswk wrote:
Wisse wrote:gratz with your final forge

Morning Wisse....thanx...hope everyone enjoys this one also!

yeah morning, i want to go to my bed again

ZzZzZzzz

by **cairnswk** on Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:30 am

Wisse wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
Wisse wrote:gratz with your final forge

Morning Wisse....thanx...hope everyone enjoys this one also!

yeah morning, i want to go to my bed again ZzZzZzzz

Wisse...you may as well...there's not much activity in the Foundary as present unless you have games to play. Enjoy your ZzzzZZzzzzzs!

by **Wisse** on Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:33 am

cairnswk wrote:
Wisse wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
Wisse wrote:gratz with your final forge

Morning Wisse....thanx...hope everyone enjoys this one also!

yeah morning, i want to go to my bed again ZzZzZzzz

Wisse...you may as well...there's not much activity in the Foundary as present unless you have games to play. Enjoy your ZzzzZZzzzzzs!

i play games, gotta get my 3 stripes back ( 6 points away from it again)

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