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Greatest Work of American Literature (Novel)

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Dec 25, 2015 1:13 am

What is it?
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Re: Greatest Work of American Literature

Postby Symmetry on Fri Dec 25, 2015 1:25 am

I picked my faves from the choices, but poetry, short stories, and non-fiction are conspicuously absent from the poll.
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Re: Greatest Work of American Literature

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Dec 25, 2015 1:26 am

Symmetry wrote:I picked my faves from the choices, but poetry, short stories, and non-fiction are conspicuously absent from the poll.


okay, poll title corrected

Symmetry - how did you not vote for The Secret History? A book about a bunch of condescending classics students ... did it hit too close to home?
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Re: Greatest Work of American Literature

Postby Symmetry on Fri Dec 25, 2015 1:34 am

saxitoxin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:I picked my faves from the choices, but poetry, short stories, and non-fiction are conspicuously absent from the poll.


okay, poll title corrected

Symmetry - how did you not vote for The Secret History? A book about a bunch of condescending classics students ... did it hit too close to home?


Simple answer- I haven't read it, so can't vote for it.
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Re: Greatest Work of American Literature

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Dec 25, 2015 1:36 am

Symmetry wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:I picked my faves from the choices, but poetry, short stories, and non-fiction are conspicuously absent from the poll.


okay, poll title corrected

Symmetry - how did you not vote for The Secret History? A book about a bunch of condescending classics students ... did it hit too close to home?


Simple answer- I haven't read it, so can't vote for it.


You'd like it. BIG TIME.
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Re: Greatest Work of American Literature

Postby Symmetry on Fri Dec 25, 2015 1:40 am

saxitoxin wrote:
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Symmetry wrote:I picked my faves from the choices, but poetry, short stories, and non-fiction are conspicuously absent from the poll.


okay, poll title corrected

Symmetry - how did you not vote for The Secret History? A book about a bunch of condescending classics students ... did it hit too close to home?


Simple answer- I haven't read it, so can't vote for it.


You'd definitely like it.


Probably, the other books in your poll (that I've read- still haven't got round to Updike) are excellent. I'm not a classics student though.
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Re: Greatest Work of American Literature (Novel)

Postby Symmetry on Fri Dec 25, 2015 1:51 am

My write in votes- American Pastoral by Philip Roth
The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay by Michael Chabon
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Re: Greatest Work of American Literature (Novel)

Postby Bernie Sanders on Fri Dec 25, 2015 8:54 am

Slaughter House 5

Very unique book for it's time. Though I believe the author got his ideas from the TV series Twilight Zone.
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Re: Greatest Work of American Literature (Novel)

Postby Dukasaur on Fri Dec 25, 2015 11:23 am

Please add The Fountainhead.
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Re: Greatest Work of American Literature (Novel)

Postby muy_thaiguy on Fri Dec 25, 2015 11:37 am

Some good choices, but the poll limit also leaves out several other literature novels.
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Re: Greatest Work of American Literature (Novel)

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Dec 25, 2015 2:47 pm

muy_thaiguy wrote:Some good choices, but the poll limit also leaves out several other literature novels.


True, I only listed 16 American novels here and left out the other 7.
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Re: Greatest Work of American Literature (Novel)

Postby riskllama on Fri Dec 25, 2015 6:09 pm

the greatest american novel has yet to be written. and it will be written in china... :?
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Re: Greatest Work of American Literature (Novel)

Postby Symmetry on Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:56 am

riskllama wrote:the greatest american novel has yet to be written. and it will be written in china... :?


There's always The Good Earth by Pearl Buck. She won the Nobel Prize, and it's probably her most famous novel.

She wrote it while she lived in China. Good book.
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Re: Greatest Work of American Literature (Novel)

Postby PLAYER57832 on Sat Dec 26, 2015 10:21 am

Symmetry wrote:
riskllama wrote:the greatest american novel has yet to be written. and it will be written in china... :?


There's always The Good Earth by Pearl Buck. She won the Nobel Prize, and it's probably her most famous novel.

She wrote it while she lived in China. Good book.

It is, but , I would put in something like Mercedes Lackey's the Last Herald Mage or perhaps Marion Zimmer Bradley's Darkover novels. They are excellent, but the literature "experts" tend to stay away from genres.
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Re: Greatest Work of American Literature (Novel)

Postby Symmetry on Sat Dec 26, 2015 10:49 am

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riskllama wrote:the greatest american novel has yet to be written. and it will be written in china... :?


There's always The Good Earth by Pearl Buck. She won the Nobel Prize, and it's probably her most famous novel.

She wrote it while she lived in China. Good book.

It is, but , I would put in something like Mercedes Lackey's the Last Herald Mage or perhaps Marion Zimmer Bradley's Darkover novels. They are excellent, but the literature "experts" tend to stay away from genres.


Genres are pretty key to most English Lit degrees. Epic poetry, Post-colonialism, Romanticism

Experts love their genres.
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Re: Greatest Work of American Literature (Novel)

Postby Lord Arioch on Sat Dec 26, 2015 1:01 pm

Yuck
So if i understand right Mark Twain one of the great writers ... has his second novell here ... not the fist ... like Tom Sawyer? ( might be a diff here in how u split em in sweden but here u have first Tom the Huck!

AND HOW THE HELL comes u missed out the one and only Edgar alan Poe? Or Hp guy Lovecroft ...

Read mor my undereducated friend!
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Re: Greatest Work of American Literature (Novel)

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Dec 26, 2015 1:05 pm

Lord Arioch wrote:So if i understand right Mark Twain one of the great writers ... has his second novell here ... not the fist ... like Tom Sawyer? ( might be a diff here in how u split em in sweden but here u have first Tom the Huck!

There were eventually four Tom Sawyer novels. The second -- Huck Finn -- is generally regarded as the best of the four and probably the best representative of Twain overall.

My personal favourite Twain book (can't really call it a novel) is Letters from the Earth, but I doubt if it will ever reach the top of anyone's list besides mine.
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Re: Greatest Work of American Literature (Novel)

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Dec 26, 2015 2:29 pm

Lord Arioch wrote:Yuck
So if i understand right Mark Twain one of the great writers ... has his second novell here ... not the fist ... like Tom Sawyer? ( might be a diff here in how u split em in sweden but here u have first Tom the Huck!

AND HOW THE HELL comes u missed out the one and only Edgar alan Poe? Or Hp guy Lovecroft ...

Read mor my undereducated friend!


Poe was better known for his stories and poems than novels. If we're just talking about American writers, we would include Ralph Waldo Emerson and Henry David Thoreau, but I don't think either of them wrote novels, at least insofar as I'm aware.

And Lovecraft? Yes, I love Lovecraft but he doesn't live in the same category as a Hemingway or a Steinbeck or a Salinger or a London. It would be like talking about English literature and discussing P. G. Wodehouse in the same breath as William Shakespeare.
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Re: Greatest Work of American Literature (Novel)

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Dec 26, 2015 2:38 pm

AND BTW, THERE IS AN OPTION THAT SAYS "OTHER (WRITE-IN)"!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Greatest Work of American Literature (Novel)

Postby PLAYER57832 on Sat Dec 26, 2015 3:46 pm

Symmetry wrote:

Genres are pretty key to most English Lit degrees. Epic poetry, Post-colonialism, Romanticism

Experts love their genres.

No, they just have their own categories. They avoid things like fantasy, etc as too "kitche" even if they stories are more involved., etc.
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Re: Greatest Work of American Literature (Novel)

Postby Symmetry on Sat Dec 26, 2015 4:35 pm

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Symmetry wrote:

Genres are pretty key to most English Lit degrees. Epic poetry, Post-colonialism, Romanticism

Experts love their genres.

No, they just have their own categories. They avoid things like fantasy, etc as too "kitche" even if they stories are more involved., etc.


Tolkien and CS Lewis would seem to disprove your point. Both academics, neither can be thought of as avoiding fantasy. Rather their academic work fuelled it.
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Re: Greatest Work of American Literature (Novel)

Postby PLAYER57832 on Sat Dec 26, 2015 5:23 pm

Symmetry wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:
Symmetry wrote:

Genres are pretty key to most English Lit degrees. Epic poetry, Post-colonialism, Romanticism

Experts love their genres.

No, they just have their own categories. They avoid things like fantasy, etc as too "kitche" even if they stories are more involved., etc.


Tolkien and CS Lewis would seem to disprove your point. Both academics, neither can be thought of as avoiding fantasy. Rather their academic work fuelled it.

Case in point, actually. Studying Tolkien is a relatively new phenomena, and its one of the few ever given consideration. Marion Zimmer Bradley Mentored dozens of authors, yet is relatively little known except among fantasy aficionados.

A question, have you read any of the Herald Mage series by Mercedes Lackey?
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Re: Greatest Work of American Literature (Novel)

Postby Symmetry on Sat Dec 26, 2015 5:35 pm

PLAYER57832 wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:
Symmetry wrote:

Genres are pretty key to most English Lit degrees. Epic poetry, Post-colonialism, Romanticism

Experts love their genres.

No, they just have their own categories. They avoid things like fantasy, etc as too "kitche" even if they stories are more involved., etc.


Tolkien and CS Lewis would seem to disprove your point. Both academics, neither can be thought of as avoiding fantasy. Rather their academic work fuelled it.

Case in point, actually. Studying Tolkien is a relatively new phenomena, and its one of the few ever given consideration. Marion Zimmer Bradley Mentored dozens of authors, yet is relatively little known except among fantasy aficionados.

A question, have you read any of the Herald Mage series by Mercedes Lackey?


No, why?
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Re: Greatest Work of American Literature (Novel)

Postby PLAYER57832 on Sat Dec 26, 2015 5:39 pm

Symmetry wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:
Symmetry wrote:

Genres are pretty key to most English Lit degrees. Epic poetry, Post-colonialism, Romanticism

Experts love their genres.

No, they just have their own categories. They avoid things like fantasy, etc as too "kitche" even if they stories are more involved., etc.


Tolkien and CS Lewis would seem to disprove your point. Both academics, neither can be thought of as avoiding fantasy. Rather their academic work fuelled it.

Case in point, actually. Studying Tolkien is a relatively new phenomena, and its one of the few ever given consideration. Marion Zimmer Bradley Mentored dozens of authors, yet is relatively little known except among fantasy aficionados.

A question, have you read any of the Herald Mage series by Mercedes Lackey?


No, why?
I think you would enjoy it, just based on what I have seen you write in the forum. It begins with the Last Herald Mage, though she has written several based more or less in that same locale, the same theme.
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Re: Greatest Work of American Literature (Novel)

Postby Symmetry on Sat Dec 26, 2015 5:52 pm

PLAYER57832 wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:
Symmetry wrote:

Genres are pretty key to most English Lit degrees. Epic poetry, Post-colonialism, Romanticism

Experts love their genres.

No, they just have their own categories. They avoid things like fantasy, etc as too "kitche" even if they stories are more involved., etc.


Tolkien and CS Lewis would seem to disprove your point. Both academics, neither can be thought of as avoiding fantasy. Rather their academic work fuelled it.

Case in point, actually. Studying Tolkien is a relatively new phenomena, and its one of the few ever given consideration. Marion Zimmer Bradley Mentored dozens of authors, yet is relatively little known except among fantasy aficionados.

A question, have you read any of the Herald Mage series by Mercedes Lackey?


No, why?
I think you would enjoy it, just based on what I have seen you write in the forum. It begins with the Last Herald Mage, though she has written several based more or less in that same locale, the same theme.


I'll take a look. Beats waiting for Patrick Rothfuss or George Martin to write another book.
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