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This is cyber terrorism, and anyone who is actually ignorant enough to support them (O P ) needs to think about these people for a moment, what GOOD have they done?
O P show something positive they have done that has helped the world or any country or for that matter anyone other than their own unknown agenda
Talapus wrote:I'm far more pissed that mandy and his thought process were right from the get go....damn you mandy.
mandalorian2298 wrote:jgordon1111 wrote:...
This is cyber terrorism, and anyone who is actually ignorant enough to support them (O P ) needs to think about these people for a moment, what GOOD have they done?
O P show something positive they have done that has helped the world or any country or for that matter anyone other than their own unknown agenda
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steubenville_High_School_rape_case
Shown! (although, in accordance with trumponian ethics, you are probably going to consider their actions a crime against the privacy of fine student athletes who were only guilty of "boys being boys")
mandalorian2298 wrote:jgordon1111 wrote:...
This is cyber terrorism, and anyone who is actually ignorant enough to support them (O P ) needs to think about these people for a moment, what GOOD have they done?
O P show something positive they have done that has helped the world or any country or for that matter anyone other than their own unknown agenda
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steubenville_High_School_rape_case
Shown! (although, in accordance with trumponian ethics, you are probably going to consider their actions a crime against the privacy of fine student athletes who were only guilty of "boys being boys")
jgordon1111 wrote:And in case your new to forums I am not a fan or supporter of Trump in any way.
jgordon1111 wrote:Well so much for them being a non political group
This video is a clear declaration of if they don't like someone,they want others to do their dirty work for them.
What gives them the right to decide who runs for office anywhere. And what will they demand next.?
This is cyber terrorism, and anyone who is actually ignorant enough to support them (O P ) needs to think about these people for a moment, what GOOD have they done?
O P show something positive they have done that has helped the world or any country or for that matter anyone other than their own unknown agenda
notyou2 wrote:jgordon1111 wrote:Well so much for them being a non political group
This video is a clear declaration of if they don't like someone,they want others to do their dirty work for them.
What gives them the right to decide who runs for office anywhere. And what will they demand next.?
This is cyber terrorism, and anyone who is actually ignorant enough to support them (O P ) needs to think about these people for a moment, what GOOD have they done?
O P show something positive they have done that has helped the world or any country or for that matter anyone other than their own unknown agenda
Here's 8. Google is your friend you know.
http://www.businessinsider.com/good-hacks-by-anonymous-2013-4
jgordon1111 wrote:notyou2 wrote:jgordon1111 wrote:Well so much for them being a non political group
This video is a clear declaration of if they don't like someone,they want others to do their dirty work for them.
What gives them the right to decide who runs for office anywhere. And what will they demand next.?
This is cyber terrorism, and anyone who is actually ignorant enough to support them (O P ) needs to think about these people for a moment, what GOOD have they done?
O P show something positive they have done that has helped the world or any country or for that matter anyone other than their own unknown agenda
Here's 8. Google is your friend you know.
http://www.businessinsider.com/good-hacks-by-anonymous-2013-4
Thanks you, I was not aware of most of that, but again they have no right interfering in anyone's elections, where do they stop? If they want it done do it themselves, don't ask the general public to put their asses on the line for your private dislikes and agenda
notyou2 wrote:Trump will f*ck up everything he touches, just like he has in his own life. He will do the opposite of making America great again. If an anonymous group can help turn the tide, I have no issues with it. How is this any different than an endorsement from another politician or a celebrity, or the president?
notyou2 wrote:If more people stood up and spoke out against Hitler, perhaps 60 million people need not have died.
Trump will f*ck up everything he touches, just like he has in his own life. He will do the opposite of making America great again. If an anonymous group can help turn the tide, I have no issues with it. How is this any different than an endorsement from another politician or a celebrity, or the president?
Dukasaur wrote:notyou2 wrote:Trump will f*ck up everything he touches, just like he has in his own life. He will do the opposite of making America great again. If an anonymous group can help turn the tide, I have no issues with it. How is this any different than an endorsement from another politician or a celebrity, or the president?
It's very different. Anonymous is talking about bringing down his websites, etc. They're talking about destroying his ability to communicate with his fans, and besides the fact that it's illegal, it's also immoral.
The end does not justify the means. Bringing down Trump through dirty tricks -- whether it's Anonymous crashing his websites, Black Live Matter disrupting his rallies, or Mitt Romney buying off his delegates -- is a subversion of the democratic process. People who don't like Trump need to speak up and make a rational case against him. If the electorate chooses not to heed the voices of reason and elects him, so be it. They will get what they deserve. Self-appointed saviours cheating to prevent him from winning are enemies of fairness, due process, and democracy.
muy_thaiguy wrote:Dukasaur wrote:notyou2 wrote:Trump will f*ck up everything he touches, just like he has in his own life. He will do the opposite of making America great again. If an anonymous group can help turn the tide, I have no issues with it. How is this any different than an endorsement from another politician or a celebrity, or the president?
It's very different. Anonymous is talking about bringing down his websites, etc. They're talking about destroying his ability to communicate with his fans, and besides the fact that it's illegal, it's also immoral.
The end does not justify the means. Bringing down Trump through dirty tricks -- whether it's Anonymous crashing his websites, Black Live Matter disrupting his rallies, or Mitt Romney buying off his delegates -- is a subversion of the democratic process. People who don't like Trump need to speak up and make a rational case against him. If the electorate chooses not to heed the voices of reason and elects him, so be it. They will get what they deserve. Self-appointed saviours cheating to prevent him from winning are enemies of fairness, due process, and democracy.
In all honesty, Trump's own rhetoric brought this on. He only has himself to blame for saying he would enact policies not dissimilar to that of Hitler back in 1930s Germany. I've actually been wondering if Anonymous would get involved. They've never taken kindly to such sentiments.
Dukasaur wrote:muy_thaiguy wrote:Dukasaur wrote:notyou2 wrote:Trump will f*ck up everything he touches, just like he has in his own life. He will do the opposite of making America great again. If an anonymous group can help turn the tide, I have no issues with it. How is this any different than an endorsement from another politician or a celebrity, or the president?
It's very different. Anonymous is talking about bringing down his websites, etc. They're talking about destroying his ability to communicate with his fans, and besides the fact that it's illegal, it's also immoral.
The end does not justify the means. Bringing down Trump through dirty tricks -- whether it's Anonymous crashing his websites, Black Live Matter disrupting his rallies, or Mitt Romney buying off his delegates -- is a subversion of the democratic process. People who don't like Trump need to speak up and make a rational case against him. If the electorate chooses not to heed the voices of reason and elects him, so be it. They will get what they deserve. Self-appointed saviours cheating to prevent him from winning are enemies of fairness, due process, and democracy.
In all honesty, Trump's own rhetoric brought this on. He only has himself to blame for saying he would enact policies not dissimilar to that of Hitler back in 1930s Germany. I've actually been wondering if Anonymous would get involved. They've never taken kindly to such sentiments.
Trump may be an asshole. That is not in dispute.
If you subvert the democratic process to muzzle people whom you consider to be assholes, you are sowing the seeds of that democracy's destruction. The very concept of liberal democracy is underpinned by the idea that everyone has a right to their opinion, and everyone has a right to express their opinion in the political arena and bring it to the attention of the voters.
Dukasaur wrote:muy_thaiguy wrote:Dukasaur wrote:notyou2 wrote:Trump will f*ck up everything he touches, just like he has in his own life. He will do the opposite of making America great again. If an anonymous group can help turn the tide, I have no issues with it. How is this any different than an endorsement from another politician or a celebrity, or the president?
It's very different. Anonymous is talking about bringing down his websites, etc. They're talking about destroying his ability to communicate with his fans, and besides the fact that it's illegal, it's also immoral.
The end does not justify the means. Bringing down Trump through dirty tricks -- whether it's Anonymous crashing his websites, Black Live Matter disrupting his rallies, or Mitt Romney buying off his delegates -- is a subversion of the democratic process. People who don't like Trump need to speak up and make a rational case against him. If the electorate chooses not to heed the voices of reason and elects him, so be it. They will get what they deserve. Self-appointed saviours cheating to prevent him from winning are enemies of fairness, due process, and democracy.
In all honesty, Trump's own rhetoric brought this on. He only has himself to blame for saying he would enact policies not dissimilar to that of Hitler back in 1930s Germany. I've actually been wondering if Anonymous would get involved. They've never taken kindly to such sentiments.
Trump may be an asshole. That is not in dispute.
If you subvert the democratic process to muzzle people whom you consider to be assholes, you are sowing the seeds of that democracy's destruction. The very concept of liberal democracy is underpinned by the idea that everyone has a right to their opinion, and everyone has a right to express their opinion in the political arena and bring it to the attention of the voters.
muy_thaiguy wrote:Dukasaur wrote:muy_thaiguy wrote:Dukasaur wrote:notyou2 wrote:Trump will f*ck up everything he touches, just like he has in his own life. He will do the opposite of making America great again. If an anonymous group can help turn the tide, I have no issues with it. How is this any different than an endorsement from another politician or a celebrity, or the president?
It's very different. Anonymous is talking about bringing down his websites, etc. They're talking about destroying his ability to communicate with his fans, and besides the fact that it's illegal, it's also immoral.
The end does not justify the means. Bringing down Trump through dirty tricks -- whether it's Anonymous crashing his websites, Black Live Matter disrupting his rallies, or Mitt Romney buying off his delegates -- is a subversion of the democratic process. People who don't like Trump need to speak up and make a rational case against him. If the electorate chooses not to heed the voices of reason and elects him, so be it. They will get what they deserve. Self-appointed saviours cheating to prevent him from winning are enemies of fairness, due process, and democracy.
In all honesty, Trump's own rhetoric brought this on. He only has himself to blame for saying he would enact policies not dissimilar to that of Hitler back in 1930s Germany. I've actually been wondering if Anonymous would get involved. They've never taken kindly to such sentiments.
Trump may be an asshole. That is not in dispute.
If you subvert the democratic process to muzzle people whom you consider to be assholes, you are sowing the seeds of that democracy's destruction. The very concept of liberal democracy is underpinned by the idea that everyone has a right to their opinion, and everyone has a right to express their opinion in the political arena and bring it to the attention of the voters.
Not saying Anonymous is in the right or anything like that, but for me, this is not unexpected. I don't know how elections go on in Canada or other countries, but in the US, particularly the last few elections, most political ads (like, 99%, maybe more) are defamation ads. Trump has gone several steps further in inciting violence against people that don't agree with him, targeting minorities, and overall bigotry and hate in his speeches. As well as saying a lot of words without actually saying anything.
Anonymous has gone after the KKK, ISIS, and other groups for similar (and often, more violent) threats. So, while Trump may be running for office (as much as that sickens me, without even mentioning how far he has come), much of his rhetoric is similar to other groups that Anonymous has targeted in the past. And they were praised for it.
jgordon1111 wrote:Well, I went kasich, but now impossible for him to make it, brokered convention my ass, not sure about general election, Cruz better hit high gear, like most feel about trump, I feel about billary, anybody but.except in contested convention if they put up Romney or Ryan then for the first time since i was 18 I may just say duck it, this is not the will of the people at all,this will be the will of the elite
Symmetry wrote:jgordon1111 wrote:Well, I went kasich, but now impossible for him to make it, brokered convention my ass, not sure about general election, Cruz better hit high gear, like most feel about trump, I feel about billary, anybody but.except in contested convention if they put up Romney or Ryan then for the first time since i was 18 I may just say duck it, this is not the will of the people at all,this will be the will of the elite
I know I've called you out on the sexist crap about Clinton before, but "billary" (lower case and all) is a new one for me.
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